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What's "West"?

post #1 of 27
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I just completed the demographics poll, and for me the location question was easy. But if you lived in the west US, you could choose West USA, Far West USA, Pacific Northwest USA....

What exactly do Americans consider to be "West"? Someone once told me they live in the mid-West, and then said Chicago! Uh, check the map brothers and sisters, I think you'll find you're "back East", as we say. Mind you, I've always considered East to be right of the Cascade Mountains (where the proper snow turns to that puffy wuss fluff), and south-of-the-border Seattle. Way East is Calgary, and then there's that other part of the country that thinks they run the place and talk funny.
post #2 of 27
JR

If you ever happen to make an excursion to the flatlands, KC to be specific. Let me know and I'll prepare you some of my oversized BBQ Burritos !!!! : ( for real)
post #3 of 27
Sounds good. I'll be there for a wedding June 8.
post #4 of 27
Anything west of St. Louis is the West, I think it comes from West of the Mississippi river. We in Ohio are in the Midwest. Kansas, Oklahome and Nebraska are considered by us as the Plane (Plain ) states.

East means Atlantic Northeast, states that border on the ocean, or nearly so.

And then there is the South [img]smile.gif[/img]

As far as skiing is concerned, for us the West starts in Denver.

...Ott
post #5 of 27
Hey JR, Good to see you on screen. Where are we with "hyperchange"?
My definition of West : Anything east of NYC is the ocean---anything West of the Lincoln tunnel is West and Indians and desolation. [img]tongue.gif[/img] [img]smile.gif[/img]
post #6 of 27
I'm from the west, and for my people everything east of the Rockies is considered the east, from the east slope of the rockies to the pacific ocean is the West, 'the west is the best, get here and we'll do the rest.' On second thought don't bother coming here, you've already overrun the place and my people are no more; my people being mountain folk.
post #7 of 27
If you were looking at a map, West is anything to the left of the Greenwich Meridian (as in 0 degrees longitude), where time is measured from (hence GMT), and before 180 degrees (The IDL is roughly there). Going to the right of the Greenwich Meridian is east.

So, is there anywhere in American which is middle?

S
post #8 of 27
Sure doesn't seem to have much to do with longitude, latitude or the compass...........Ohio is "North", Oklahoma "SouthWest", Colorado "West"
and Virginia "South"? I think we should change the system to describe degrees and distance from where God lives (Idaho).
post #9 of 27
When I lived in Michigan, I used to go "out West" to go skiing. This usually meant Colorado. Now, everytime I go skiing, I have to drive East to the Wasatch. Interesting concept.

To me, every place that has once had cowboys, indians, or any kind of shoot out at a coral, is considered West.

To that point, where is "Inter-mountain"?
post #10 of 27
ah Hey LarryC & OtHeRs,
I don't know what the heck those *locales* you're talkin' about are...but I think EvErYoNe
knows that the Pacific lies west of Rte.#128! [img]tongue.gif[/img]
post #11 of 27
West = Rocky Mountains and westward
post #12 of 27
I know where the Far East is.

I know where the Middle East is.

Where is the Near East?? :
post #13 of 27
Alaska is the most western US state.
Alaska is also the most northern US state.
Strangely enough, Alaska is also the most eastern US state.

As far as I'm concerned, Colorado is where the West begins and where the midwest ends. That drive west through Kansas has to be the longest drive I've ever encountered. It never ends.
post #14 of 27
Bonni,
I writing this from memory, so I may be wrong. So, if there are any Brits out there who remember history from school days, then, please correct me...

Origianlly it was something like this:

Far East: China, Formosa (Thailand), Japan, Korea, etc

Middle East: From the Persian Gulf to India (but excluding India & Ceylon (Sri Lanka)

India was referred to as the "Subcontinent"

Near East: Turkey, Syria, Lebanon, Israel, Palestine, Egypt.

Again, apologies if I'm not quite right, but this stuff was from the days of the Raj & the British Empire, when America was still populated by natives in many places.

S
post #15 of 27
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Originally posted by Wear the fox hat ?:
Bonni,
I writing this from memory, so I may be wrong. So, if there are any Brits out there who remember history from school days, then, please correct me...

S
I remember school, it was a Thursday.

DB
post #16 of 27
Middle East, region loosely defined by geography and culture, located in south-western Asia and north-eastern Africa. In most current usage, the term Middle East refers collectively to Cyprus, Egypt, Iran, Iraq, Israel, Jordan, Kuwait, Lebanon, Saudi Arabia, Syria, Turkey, Yemen, and the states and emirates along the southern and eastern fringes of the Arabian Peninsula, namely, Bahrain, Oman, Qatar, and the United Arab Emirates. When used to designate a so-called culture area, the unity of which is based on Islamic law and custom, the term Middle East usually embraces a much more extensive region, stretching from the borders of Afghanistan and Pakistan in the east through all of North Africa, including Sudan and the Maghreb, comprising Libya, Tunisia, Algeria, and Morocco.

The term Middle East as it is now applied was first used by the British military command during World War II. The term Near East, which was formerly used to describe the region, is now sometimes applied to the central core area encompassing the Mediterranean region of the Middle East.

Bloody British Empire got everywhere, and named everything!
post #17 of 27
There is no life east of Sepulveda,

CalG
post #18 of 27
washington may well be the west but the only description that works for me is "pacific northwest."

what states would you say are included in that? just washington and oregon? perhaps it's more regional and should include part of northern california and southern british columbia. my vote is for regional which would cut out eastern washington and oregon (both very arid and "western" like areas).

and btw alaska - let's make sure you use the qualifier "non-contiguous."

[ May 03, 2002, 11:23 AM: Message edited by: Sugar_Snack ]
post #19 of 27
Zorro, Formosa is now Taiwan, not Thailand.

Quote:
There is no life east of Sepulveda,

CalG
How true! And if you live in the Valley, there's very little life to the west of Sepulveda.

Hi, Sugar!

[ May 03, 2002, 11:34 AM: Message edited by: BadRat ]
post #20 of 27
Quote:
Originally posted by Sugar_Snack:
my vote is for regional which would cut out eastern washington and oregon (both very arid and "western" like areas).

and btw alaska - let's make sure you use the qualifier "non-contiguous."
Boy now we're going to get picky ...

So where is the dividing line between Pacific North West and Pacific North East (to coin a phrase)? The Cascade Crest? That magical dividing line where the snow is a little drier and the rain a little rarer? I guess that would put MtBachelor in the east of Oregon.
post #21 of 27
Quote:
Originally posted by PowderJunkie:
Boy now we're going to get picky ...

So where is the dividing line between Pacific North West and Pacific North East (to coin a phrase)? The Cascade Crest? That magical dividing line where the snow is a little drier and the rain a little rarer? I guess that would put MtBachelor in the east of Oregon.[/qb]
picky, picky, picky.....yup that's right. someone from spokane, washington would be from "the west" whereas someone such as myself from seattle, washington would be from "the pacific northwest."

Quote:
Originally posted by BadRat:
Hi, Sugar!
hey, hey - just checked out the alpental site and it's going to be a cinco de mayo weekend up there. all lifts operating.

[ May 03, 2002, 12:08 PM: Message edited by: Sugar_Snack ]
post #22 of 27
Thanks, BadRat for the correction!

Not only do you correct my mistakes, but you get to see the squirrels with Sugar! (shame there isn't a chairlift in her backyard!!!)

S

[ May 03, 2002, 02:35 PM: Message edited by: Wear the fox hat ? ]
post #23 of 27
Quote:
shame there isn't a chairlift in her backyard!!!
Well, there is a wheelchair, but I haven't tried that yet.
post #24 of 27
BadRat,
It doesn't count as a proper chair lift unless you have a safety bar, and it is used properly!

S
post #25 of 27
No safety bar that I noticed, just a bit of a leg support on the right side. Oh yeah, and brakes.

Here, this ought to cheer you up, Zorro. Enjoy!

www.thecorrs.net/photos/Individual_Caroline/Part_1/caroline_book_td_001.jpg

[ May 03, 2002, 03:34 PM: Message edited by: BadRat ]
post #26 of 27
Thanks BadRat,
Although that photo doesn't do her justice. She's far better in the flesh, I mean, she's irresistible. When I see her it leaves me breathless, so I listen to the radio.

S

[ May 03, 2002, 03:37 PM: Message edited by: Wear the fox hat ? ]
post #27 of 27
Very interesting....
Some of you look at "west" as being a spot on a map. I've always looked at the "west" as being an attitude! Just more laid back than the "east".

And after today, I have a new definition.

I just spent the past 9 hours flying back to Colorado from Watertown NY, across the "mid-west" and never getting higher than 8500' (and not needing to), and I've re-defined the "west" as where the air is clear, and the ground isn't flat!
I've spent the past 10 days flying up and down the east coast on holiday, and could rarely see further than 10-15 miles( ok- I'll be honest- a few times I could see 30-40). As I got closer to home, it just kept getting clearer! I could see Pikes Peak while still well east of Goodland, KS! That's over 150 miles! (By the way- it had a fresh dusting of snow on it! Made me feel good to be home!)

To me, that's like scuba diving in Monterey, Ca. Great diving, but you can only see 30' on a good day. While diving in the Carribean is considered lousy if vis is less than 150+'!

So- if you come "WEST", bring your most laid back attitude, prepare to breathe deeply, and get ready to play on something higher and steeper than a freeway overpass!

Just having fun.....

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