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post #211 of 232
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Originally Posted by volklskier1 View Post
Dont you watch the video of yourself?
Yeah, All the time...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3hHPuRqJavo
post #212 of 232
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Originally Posted by Tog
So the idea in the drill is to keep the outside ski flat while edging the inside ski? Is this just to feel the inside ski? At least now I know where this comes from.

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Yes, that is the goal of one of the drills. The idea it get the student to reduce (or eliminate) their big toe edge dominance (which many have when they come to lessons). - Max

Ok I get that. Why is the O-frame necessary in the two footed release drill that is demonstrated on the website? It seems to me that this is the opposite of what should be happening for the inside foot. Both feet/skis should be flattening to the slope- going downhill.

I'm amazed quite frankly that this video is the one they've chosen. The terrain is not good, (looks like clumps of loose snow which make sliding difficult), and there's clearly a sudden adduction of the inside leg to slide it next to the outside leg. Someone trying to learn from this would pretty much pick up on the sliding of the leg instead of the releasing of the edges.

Harb Excercises Two Footed release drill:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iaFLi...blogindex.html
post #213 of 232
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Originally Posted by Tog View Post
I'm amazed quite frankly that this video is the one they've chosen.
Ok serious response (for once today). Which video are you talking about?
post #214 of 232
this one:

Harb Excercises Two Footed release drill:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iaFLi...blogindex.html

It's on the harbskisystems website but somehow I got a link to youtube. You'd think the producer would at least get a smooth slope and...well....god forbid...wait for some sun. All that is besides the questionable demonstration.

Here's an example of two footed release in moguls. (totally unrelated and bad quality video)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LVr_TyzQztA&NR=1
post #215 of 232
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Originally Posted by Tog View Post
Ok I get that. Why is the O-frame necessary in the two footed release drill that is demonstrated on the website? It seems to me that this is the opposite of what should be happening for the inside foot. Both feet/skis should be flattening to the slope- going downhill.
We always start tipping from the new inside foot. So, in drills you'll likely see the O-frame. Its viewed as a good thing. If you don't see the O-frame you aren't tipping the inside foot enough.

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Originally Posted by Tog View Post
I'm amazed quite frankly that this video is the one they've chosen. The terrain is not good, (looks like clumps of loose snow which make sliding difficult), and there's clearly a sudden adduction of the inside leg to slide it next to the outside leg.
Pulling the foot back and holding it against the outside boot is covered in the books. Its intentional. That vid is a great example of the two footed release.
post #216 of 232
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Originally Posted by Tog View Post
Here's an example of two footed release in moguls. (totally unrelated and bad quality video)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LVr_TyzQztA&NR=1
Must have been markers....
post #217 of 232
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Originally Posted by Tog
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I'm amazed quite frankly that this video is the one they've chosen. The terrain is not good, (looks like clumps of loose snow which make sliding difficult)
We've come full circle from Harb only skis the groomed to loose clumps of snow.
post #218 of 232
you ought to try actually reading the posts people make. We're talking about a drill here, not skiing and I have no idea who's demonstrating.
post #219 of 232
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Originally Posted by stowe's pet goat View Post
When I read this thread I get a headache, and the cause is Max_501 and the posts of those who will apologize for and excuse every bit of hypocrisy and duplicity uttered...
Poor reading comprehension could be causing you to get a headache.
post #220 of 232
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Originally Posted by Simon Kinahan View Post
Simon this is the second time you've quoted me out of context in this thread in order to "prove" a point that my words do not actually support. I have no idea if this is deliberate, but please try harder to respect the intent of my words when quoting me. .
To save time...I just used your quote.... Seriously thou, I dont know what you mean....I think your confusion comes from a lack of understanding of pivoting. I tried to get this across in my other posts...but let me try again to explain below.

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Originally Posted by Simon Kinahan View Post
I had my heel pushing movement before I ever even heard Harald's name, let alone attended a PMTS lesson. Since I've had actual PMTS coaching my focus has been mostly on getting rid of it and using (gasp) PMTS movements instead and it has largely worked. No one (least of all Diana) has ever taught me to do a pivot slip.
By definition...if you are working on getting rid of a heel push...but are not doing arc to arc...such as the BPST...then you are working on pivoting.

This does not mean however that you are doing pivot slips. Pivot slips are just one a whole host of exercies that can be used...but certainly not neccesarily.
post #221 of 232
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Originally Posted by Max_501 View Post
Pulling the foot back and holding it against the outside boot is covered in the books. Its intentional. That vid is a great example of the two footed release.
-Isn't that the "Phantom Move" that is the basis for Book 1?

There's no reason to actually slide the inside foot to the outside foot other than to make it easier for lower level skiers. I don't see this demonstrated at all in their high level turns. (why would it)

One should be able to release both edges at the same time with the feet in the same spot. - Yes, it's more difficult for sure.
post #222 of 232
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Originally Posted by Tog View Post
-Isn't that the "Phantom Move" that is the basis for Book 1?
No, that would be the lift and tip movement.

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Originally Posted by Tog View Post
There's no reason to actually slide the inside foot to the outside foot other than to make it easier for lower level skiers. I don't see this demonstrated at all in their high level turns. (why would it)
What turns are you looking at?
post #223 of 232
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What turns are you looking at? -Max
"Skiing-Tag You're It Chase Run"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HHGbw...blogindex.html

Or this: "HH carving a moderate slope"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4oN3RDdHJ8w&NR=1
post #224 of 232
So Max,

Why, exactly, do you host all (or most) the vids for HH's blog? H doesn't like posting on utube either?

edit: Ya know, the fact that you do that, I think gives some creedence to the viral marketing deal. How much you making in kickbacks?
post #225 of 232
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Originally Posted by Lonnie View Post
So Max,

Why, exactly, do you host all (or most) the vids for HH's blog? H doesn't like posting on utube either?
I don't host anything, youtube does. If you are asking why I uploaded the vids its because I'm the one that took the video so I'm the one that has the high res footage that needs to be uploaded to youtube.

Did you notice that I also put up video for Dawgcatching and Dr. Rick? Same reason, I took the vid.

Nothing more than that.
post #226 of 232
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Originally Posted by Max_501 View Post
If you are asking why I uploaded the vids its because I'm the one that took the video so I'm the one that has the high res footage that needs to be uploaded to youtube.
So why are you shooting all the video for H?
post #227 of 232
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Originally Posted by Tog View Post
"Skiing-Tag You're It Chase Run"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HHGbw...blogindex.html

Or this: "HH carving a moderate slope"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4oN3RDdHJ8w&NR=1
Oh, that's a different type of turn than the bpst that is built from the two footed release.
post #228 of 232
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So why are you shooting all the video for H?
Why do I shoot video for Dawgcatching, Dr. Rick, Slider, the local junior and masters racers? I guess because I enjoy it.
post #229 of 232
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Why do I shoot video for Dawgcatching, Dr. Rick, Slider, the local junior and masters racers? I guess because I enjoy it.
Yeah, but Dawgcatching, Dr. Rick, Slider, the local junior and masters racers aren't selling a product and by defacto marketing it here....
post #230 of 232
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Originally Posted by Lonnie View Post
Yeah, but Dawgcatching, Dr. Rick, Slider, the local junior and masters racers aren't selling a product and by defacto marketing it here....

As far as I know discussion of PMTS is not banned here so I don't see why video that includes PMTS skiers or coaches would be banned. None of the posts or the vids link to the PMTS website either. I fail to see how there is anything defacto marketing with regards to any of those vids or the context in which they were used.
post #231 of 232
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Here's the point Max. I don't care that you shoot the vids. I don't care that you post the vids. But when the Vids also show up on HH's blog, which one could argue exists for "the promotion or sale of merchandise, instruction, travel, etc." then I personally think that violates the above. Now I'm not a mod, and I don't make the decisions, but that's the way I see it. Pick where you want the vids posted, here or on H's blog. When they show up on H's blog then are you really supporting YOUR "personal ideas, theories and opinions" ?
post #232 of 232
OK guys, I have closed this thread. We may reopen it later. It seems like it's getting mighty personal today.

Lonnie - I don't see anything wrong with poosting those videos in this thread. They are being used to attempt to prove some point (aren't they?). When they were posted by themselves, that's what I'd call guerilla marketing, and it's what we've talked about in the past.
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