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post #1 of 13
Thread Starter 
Which of the following is the better mogul ski…

Dynastar contact Ltd 172…potential purchase
Dynastar contact Ltd 178…potential purchase

Fisher Watea 84, 176…own..LOVE this ski...
Head im72, 170…own...will be replaced by Dynastar if purchased...

Me
5’10” 240lbs…
48yrs, Level 7, 15-20 days this year…
Ski in Colorado @ Copper Mt, Loveland, Winter Park, and Vail…

I am looking to add a nice ski with mogul ability to my quiver…
I know both of the skis I own are supposed to be good Mogul skis...
Would the Dynastar be better than the im72 or Fisher…?
My wife loves going in the moguls, I would like to ski Moguls, but I SUCK…
I can ski the groomed/ un-groomed blue/black just fine, but in Moguls…I SUCK…
There are too many runs that have Moguls on them to not be able to ski them…
I am committing myself to improving my Mogul skills, so I can ski them with her…
I know that equipment can’t compensate for poor skills and technique, but if I am going to embark on this learning process, I don’t want the wrong equipment, if you know what I mean…
Besides it’s a good excuse to get another ski…yes I am an equipment junkie…
I use the im72 when it has not snowed for a few days, and the Watea if there is any fresh snow…Both suit me very well…
I have wanted to get the Dynastar and have the opportunity to buy them soon…


Just as an FYI, once I settle on the ski to use, I WILL TAKE A MOGUL LESSON…
post #2 of 13
Don't know much about those particular Dynastars...but have always loved the legend 8k as a great mogul ski...the flex pattern is forgiving and they turn quickly. I would imagine those ones you mentioned would do the same. I'm going to guess you think you're Watea's are slightly too slow edge to be good at moguls? I ski my PEs now every day and they are great in the moguls even though they are 85mm at the waist.
post #3 of 13
Thread Starter 
Not at all...
They are just fine going edge to edge..
I cant tell the difference from the im72's...
It all boils down to lack of talent...
The dynastar contact's are supposed to be a great mogul ski...
I am just trying to find out if they are that much better than what I already have...
post #4 of 13
I ski the Contact Ltd. in a 172. Level 7-8 getting better in bumps...but not great. These skis make bump skiing easier than any other ski I have tried. I am the same height as you are but around 205 LB. I also ski them in the east tighter, often icy bumps and I am glad I went with the 172's. Out west at your size I think you would enjoy the 178's. Overall a fantastic ski!
post #5 of 13
Thread Starter 
Thanks...
That is the info I am looking for...
I need all the help with bumps I can get....
Lessons and technique are the most vital, but having the best ski to make it as easy as possible is a great start...
post #6 of 13
What is wrong with the im72 or wateas? You said yourself they are supposed to be good mogul skis. Is there something that you don't like the way they ski in bumps?

If you don't have basic bump skills it will take you a long time, probably the better part of your 20 day season and quite a few lessons to develop the basic skills you need. I would suggest a ski that you are very comfortable on and that is forgiving and rather soft so that you can ski in the bumps as long as possible without taking as many hard hits and hurting too bad afterwards. Just keep pounding the bumps day after day turning as much as you can and learn to ski more continuously and fluidly. The best place to practice bumps imo, is finding a nice easy south east facing slope in the spring when its warm, sunny and starting to soften up.

By all means buy new skis, but money will probably be better spent on a bump clinic or other specialized training.
post #7 of 13
^Or you could just come ski in North Carolina.^ "Where every run is a bumper by 3:30 PM.

But in all honesty, I agree with tromano. Your $$ would be better spent learning some solid technique.







THEN buy new skis
post #8 of 13
Owned the Contacts. The shovel to tail ratio makes them sooo easy in bumps. Not to mention chop, trees, lot of other places. Go read SierraJim's review at his store's website; has it about right IMO. Can't comment on the Heads, have owned 66-76 mm Fischers that weren't nearly as good in bumps as the Contacts, can't imagine a 84 waist would be quicker than a 72. (But willing to be convinced if you'll send me a pair of Wateas. )
post #9 of 13
As I mentioned above I own these skis and think they are just great in anything up to about 6" of loose and cut up snow as well as hard pack. Their bump performance is stellar. So the question is: Which ski is closes in overall feel and performance in deeper conditions...lets say up to knee deep? Equally important is bump performance in soft cruddy bumps. Being the same "autodrive" construction would the Mythic be the ticket? Stability at high speeds is not a major criteria as I ski allot of trees and tighter spaces in those conditions. Other suggestions are welcome!
post #10 of 13

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post #11 of 13
There are some fine mogul specific skis out there, the previously mentioned IDone and even the Hart F17, but you need to learn how to ski bumps first. Quite frankly, unless you are planning on skiing bumps like a WC competitive skier, you are better off not using either of those skis. I would say a ski that is softer in the shovel, non system, a waist around 80mm and a TR in the mid to upper teens would be a fine ski for you to work with to help you get going. IMHO, a true bumps ski like the ones mentioned will be tough to learn on.
post #12 of 13
Best bump ski I've been on even better than actual mogul skis are the Dynastar Trouble Makers. 78mm gives me more confidence on Killington Volkswagons
post #13 of 13
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Originally Posted by ZacMan1987 View Post
^Or you could just come ski in North Carolina.^ "Where every run is a bumper by 3:30 PM.

But in all honesty, I agree with tromano. Your $$ would be better spent learning some solid technique.







THEN buy new skis
Bumps in NC ??? Where???

Bryan
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