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Hooded Down Jacket... Sugestions Please.

post #1 of 15
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I'm looking for a water-resistent (10,000+) down jacket with a secured hood. Burton makes a great goretex one, but it's wwaaaay over-priced. I'll wear it virtually everyday skiing, but its prime need is the 2 month-siberian freeze/blizzard I get every season in Japan.

And, being in Japan, I don't have many freeskiing options in my shops here. It's all snowboarding (which is fine when it's not an over-priced trend) or ski racing. I never get to see what is available in America these days. I search the internet, but that doesn't do much good, really.

Any suggestions? (no removeable hoods or non-resistent shells.) I currently just use my rei down parka under my goretex shell.

Rossi used to make a sweet one, so did Oakley. Both had thumb loops.I can't find them anymore, though.

Thanks for reading my long and uninteresting post.
post #2 of 15
Down jackets with a true Gore-tex shell are difficult to find, for a couple of reasons: Gore-tex just isn't breathable enough to prevent sweat and internal moisture from compromising the insulating value of the down, and it's nearly impossible to seal all of the seams on a down jacket to earn Gore's "guaranteed to keep you dry rating." Also, down usually works best in very cold conditions (well below freezing), where liquid precipitation isn't a possibility. If resistance to liquid or near-frozen precip is a must for your insulated jacket, I'd recommend getting something with synthetic insulation (Primaloft), such as the Patagonia DAS parka, the Patagonia Micro-Puff hoody, or one of the Arc'teryx shelled insulated pieces like the Fission series (if you can stomach the price). Even if the synthetic insulation gets wet, it will preserve a lot more of its insulating value than down will. If you're dead-set on down, though, Marmot makes several warm jackets with their Membrain water-resistant shell, such as the Mountain Jacket. I have no idea if they are available in Japan, however.

Since you're in Japan, why not check out some of the Mont-bell offerings? They're a Japanese brand that makes excellent synthetic and down-insulated jackets (and other gear too). From what I can see on their Japanese site, they make a down jacket called the Permafrost that looks like it would work for you. There's a hooded synthetic jacket called the Flatiron that looks like it would be perfect for cold-weather skiing as well.
post #3 of 15
Helly Hansen makes a fantastic hooded down jacket. This year it is called the show down jacket

http://www.paragonsports.com/Paragon...&campaign=2570

I have last year's model and it is incredible. Water proof Helly Tech, super warm, stylish but not over the top, flexible. It's my favorite piece of ski outerwear that I own.
post #4 of 15
Samurai, This Oakely Puffy Layer jacket seems to keep my husband warm on those sub zero days.
http://sac.gearattack.com/items/8146
He bought two on SAC. One L and one XL. He's keeping the L.
If you're interested in the XL, let me know.
post #5 of 15
Well, here's a suggestion for any of them: Be careful with it!

A good friend of mine had one of those very nice Burton parkas. A couple weeks ago, while riding one of Keystone's great tree runs, he caught a branch. The parka erupted in a virtual blizzard of down--looked like Elmer Fudd had just blasted a whole flock of geese. It was actually pretty comical, but that very warm parka suddenly wouldn't have done much good in those "siberian freeze/blizzards" in Japan!



Best regards,
Bob
post #6 of 15
My vivid imagination has painted a picture but really Bob.............
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Originally Posted by Bob Barnes/Colorado View Post
Well, here's a suggestion for any of them: Be careful with it!

A good friend of mine had one of those very nice Burton parkas. A couple weeks ago, while riding one of Keystone's great tree runs, he caught a branch. The parka erupted in a virtual blizzard of down--looked like Elmer Fudd had just blasted a whole flock of geese. It was actually pretty comical, but that very warm parka suddenly wouldn't have done much good in those "siberian freeze/blizzards" in Japan!



Best regards,
Bob
post #7 of 15
That's all right, TC. My vivid imagination couldn't help but wonder if your husband's down parka keeps him warm on those cold nights, too!

No pics needed....

post #8 of 15
Samurai, check out Flylow's offering, they make some pretty sweet gear that is VERY functional. I've been skiing in their pants all season and I'm impressed with there burliness. They are also 'Rider Owned'.

http://www.flylowgear.com/ProductDet...roductCode=400
post #9 of 15
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Originally Posted by Bob Barnes/Colorado View Post
That's all right, TC. My vivid imagination couldn't help but wonder if your husband's down parka keeps him warm on those cold nights, too!

No pics needed....



sorry about the hijack...........back to Jacket hunting.
post #10 of 15
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Originally Posted by Trekchick View Post
Samurai, This Oakely Puffy Layer jacket seems to keep my husband warm on those sub zero days.
http://sac.gearattack.com/items/8146
He bought two on SAC. One L and one XL. He's keeping the L.
If you're interested in the XL, let me know.
Not returning the XL at Dicks?
post #11 of 15
I second the Hally Hansen motion, I have one and it is bomb proof. I've ridden 40 days in it this year through many tight tree lines and have snagged it many times without a tear.
post #12 of 15
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Originally Posted by crgildart View Post
Not returning the XL at Dicks?


Maybe Elmer had to go Jacket Hunting after he lost his feathers?
post #13 of 15
There is a company called Golite, based out of Boulder, CO. They specialize in lightweight clothing and equipment for the outdoors. Their down jackets are AWESOME. They are so light its like not wearing anything but they are still incredibly warm. They make down vests, as well as jackets w/ and without hoods. I'd check out their website www.golite.com. Some of it can be kinda pricey but the materials they use for all their clothing are really cool. I think the down jacket with the hood is called the Diablo but not entirely sure.
post #14 of 15
Thread Starter 
Heeps of suggestions, guys. Thanks a lot. It's amazing the stuff you take for granted back home, like knowing which jacket you want. :

Little things like this really are frustrating when living abroad. Cheers.
post #15 of 15
That's why you have friends. Tell us what you're looking for and we'll help you get it.
Last I heard, they still ship things over there.
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