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Suggestions for 1 ski quiver

post #1 of 13
Thread Starter 
There is currently such a wide array of skis available that deciding which pairs to demo, let alone purchase, is truly bewildering. I could surely use some advice from da Bears.

I’m currently using my 2004 Rossignol B2’s in 176cm. Love them but they are getting really soft.

Seems that since I last went ski shopping, the term “Mid-fat” has changed. Most of the current crop of “expert” mid-fats are substantially wider underfoot than the B2s. (They were the “it” expert mid-fat just a few seasons back. Now the B78 is regarded as an intermediate noodle. ) How much will this increased width affect the length of skis that I should be looking for? I’m guessing that something in the 175 to 180 cm range should be about right. (Keep in mind that I’m a welterweight, actually a super welterweight, so I may want to scale down the length.)

I hope to get another 20 or so days of skiing in this season, would like to demo a few more skis, and hopefully pick up a new bargain pair before the end of next month. (I know that some of the seasons’ hotter skis may well be sold out, especially in specific lengths, but I’ll take my chances. Worst that can happen is I’ll wait till next year.)

Me: 49 year old Male, 6’, 155 lbs soaking wet and with a full belly. Trim and very fit. Level 8-9 skier. Almost all of my skiing is in the western US and Canada. Ski most terrain except for serious mandatory air, and Fall=Die lines. Most time spent off-piste, but usually will ski at least one groomer per day. Some days, depending on the company I keep, I’ll spend more time on groomed runs, but that’s not the normal way of things. I don’t have the gear, training, or sufficient time to venture into the backcountry with any degree of safety, so I’m looking at resort based terrain exclusively.

Based upon what I’ve read on this forum, from some of the advertorial magazines, and other interweb sites, I’ve come up with a list of skis that may be suitable, and that I’ll try and demo.
Dynastar Mythic Rider
Head iM 78 & 82
Fischer Watea 84 & 94
Rossignol B83
Elan 888
Volkl AC40 & AC30

Anyone with any suggestions/comments/opinions, please fire away. I love opinions.

Thanks all,
Bazzer
post #2 of 13
Might as well add Nordica Afterburner to your list. A little more on piste bias but has a following here.
post #3 of 13
You have a very good list to start I really liked the mytic rider when i demoed it ,one other suggestion would be the the atomic crimson which is 86mm in the waist it is better than the m-ex which is a pretty good all alround ski.
post #4 of 13
Thread title: Suggestions for 1 ski quiver

you'll probably have to settle for a pair.

Now which pair?? and what size?

I'd suggest 170 minimum for the locations you mentioned and I'd also suggest a minimum waist of 80.

Youe list looks good as does the additions made by stevesmith7.

Look up reviews by spindrift to get a different perspective on off groomer skis too as in reverse camber and rockered designs

There are tons of these review threads if you look . Dawgcatchin and Sierra Jim are to prolific reviewers to read.
post #5 of 13
179 Bro. Stiff or soft depending on preference.
Done.

Seriously, they ski great and can rip groomer and off-piste alike. They'll also be about the same weight as your B2's. Most of those other choices have metal in them and will be a bit heavier, so the swing weight will suffer. You could also pull off a soft 188, as they ride like cadillacs.
post #6 of 13
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179 Bro. Stiff or soft depending on preference.
Done.

Seriously, they ski great and can rip groomer and off-piste alike. They'll also be about the same weight as your B2's. Most of those other choices have metal in them and will be a bit heavier, so the swing weight will suffer. You could also pull off a soft 188, as they ride like cadillacs.
Agreed,

I think many of the skis that the OP mentioned are more in the 50-50 range.

When I think of a 1 ski for western US and canada, I would think of conventional skis around 100mm wide and medium flex like the gotama, scott P4, Bros, old style seths, rossi B94, and dozens of others... These can transition from groomers, to bumps, to trees, to deep powder, to tracked out, to crud, and if you ski mostly off the groomed then they would be the way to go.
post #7 of 13
183 Gotama is currently my one ski quiver for Tahoe, Utah, Colorado (I'm 171#s & could go 190 with no problem as they ski short). A lot of the other suggestions already made sound right on, too.
post #8 of 13
I wouldn't go narrower than 90 for a one-ski quiver used mostly off-piste in the west for an advanced+ skier.

Volkl- mantra, gotama
Nordica- enforcer, Hellcat (this will outski the AC40 and the Afterburner, but it's stiff.)
fischer- watea 94
etc, etc, etc... (notice the above are all wood to sense my bias.)

I second the Bro comments to support American Boutiqiue skis. I hear they're phenomenally versatile.
post #9 of 13
I think that you have a pretty good list for starters. I own a couple of skis in the 100-105mm range but would pick something in the 85-94mm (or so) range if I had to keep just one. It seems that skis in this width range are starting to shake out into stiffish, deep sidecut, wide carvers (Afterburner, Hellcat, AC-40 etc) and easier, more forgiving skis (Wateas, Volkl Bridge etc). There are also some "tweeners" like the MR, the Crimson, and the Sollie Fury.

The wide carvers are stiffer torsionally, heavier, usually more damp, and have better grip. They can be a little grippy or harsh in mixed conditions. OTH, the flat skis are usually more supple and forgiving in mixed snow conditions but will give up a little of grip, energy and dampening. The others are well...."tweeners"

I ski much more off trail than on so I prefer the flat, more forgiving models or the tweeners, but of course that's a personal choice. I'll give up some grip etc. in favor of an somewhat easier ski.

If you are planning to demo, I'd suggest that you go to the local hill with the best demo program and demo one of each group along with at least one wide(ish) ski. That'll more or less tell you what group to pick from. BTW....don't wait for any special conditions, just go and demo the skis on the conditions that are there. (because this is the way you are going to use this pr. of skis)

Something like this........

Wide Carver.......Nordica AB or JF
Tweener............Mythic Rider
Easy goer..........Watea 84
Wider................Volkl Gotama

This is a mix with enough differences to be able to figger out the more useful type of ski for you.

SJ
post #10 of 13
All great advice here. I would personally add the Line P 90 or 100 options to the list as well. I think they are fantastic and versatile and do a lot of things well for a 1 ski quiver. Fun and playful as well.
post #11 of 13
Thread Starter 
Thank you all for your generous advice. I’ve got more than enough choices now to make my head spin. I’ll see what demos I can rustle up next week in Whistler. May write up a review or two, but as it’s getting near the end of the season, I don’t know as there will be much interest in the ’08 skis. Lot’s of postings on 2009 skis already showing up here.

Some of the suggestions make me feel younger than my years. Thanks for bringing my attention to such products as the Line skis, Goats, and BROs. I may well become that tall, thin, balding guy you hear that says “Dude” a lot on the liftline.

Cheers all,
Bazzer
post #12 of 13
I'd like to cast my vote for the Head Mojo 90. I ski them and find them to be a perfect 1 ski quiver. They hold edge even on ice, carve beautifully on-piste but absolutely rip in fresh pow and smash crud suprisingly effectively. With an 89 waist, they're more than enough to float, yet still carve like a banshee. SOOOOO MUCH FUN!!! Very confidence inspiring! I am 5'9", 165lbs and ski the 176. I promise- the first run you make down the mountain you WILL be saying "Duuuuuuuuuuuude!" Let me know if you want to know more, I'd be glad to tell you 'bout 'em!
post #13 of 13

Gotama!

Gotama Rips in powder and does well on groomers. If you like to ski snow, go with the Goat. If ice... then maybe not. My other ski is a 174 B2 so I know what you're skiing. I say G-O-A-T!
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