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Back to skiing after 20 years. Need advice.

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I am looking for some advice on buying a used pair of skis, 3 to 4 years old. I was an advanced skier in the northeast, Gore, Killinton, Smugglers,ect. I would like an all around ski and I like speed. I am 47, 6' 2'' and 240lbs. Any advice would be appreciated. Thanks, Mike.
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Welcome. With all due respect..a guy your size/6'2 240 out of the great sport/and this loop ..for 20 y and wanting a 3-4 y/o used ski. This..ah..don't sound so good so far. I don't think it is such a good idea. An awful lot of 3-4 y/o skis are toast. Let alone good enough for a 240 lb guy to get on..let alone an experienced skier that is getting back into it and likes speed.
There are a few ways to do this. There are a lot of good people on this site that can give you advice. With the above info that you gave..this is not easy. There are also a lot of people here that sell skis. Me personally..in your shoes..I would of course be first be looking at boots..then..as you did mention 3-4 y/o..you want to do this cheaper. Sure..no problem. I would be asking out here if anyone has anything to sell..new..old stock..demo's..used that would suit you. That way you would get some advice,help, and probablly great skis! at a great deal. The seller would sort of be staking a bit of their reputation that they built up and get a few bucks too. I would be really surprised if someone out here could not get you going for a very good price.
Sure..I know that people out here can reccommend ski x..from a few years ago. Then what. Peak season you try and find one that is not beat. You obviouslly can't test it. Even fondling it is just no longer a sign that a ski is ok or junk. Man..I can see you just wasting time and money quick..and of course not being happy buying a used 3-4 y/o ski for a guy your size off someone you don't know.
The other option is a new o/s 3-4 y/o ski. Get that advice here or go to realskiers. There are tons of new 3-4 y/o skis out there dirt cheap. Sure. Often a pretty good reason why they haven't sold.
I do sell skis too..but this is pushing end of ski buying/selling time for me and time for more skiing. Plus right now I have nothing for sale.

Good luck out here and in your search..
post #3 of 11
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Originally Posted by MikeMike22 View Post
Any advice would be appreciated. Thanks
Where are you located now? I am a couple years older, a couple inches shorter, was out of the loop several years longer, and weigh about the same as you. I do not have much experience with the new gear to draw on but I can share what little experience I have accumulated from my screw-ups.

Boots: I do not know if they had liners 20 years ago but back when I bought my last pair of boots they were all plastic and tended to get tighter with time. My first screw up was buying a pair of boots that felt comfortable, now I have a pair that is a size and a half too big for me. Buy your boots with care from a real bootfitter if you have not done so already.

Skis: Both torsional and longitudinal rigidity are major factors in todays wider skis. Skiing on typical East Coast conditions, I tried to go cheap and bought three pairs of skis before I found one that would hold me. My suggestion from that nightmare is to not consider anything plugged suitable for 'intermediate/advanced' and be careful where you shop. Guys our size need a stiff beefy 'expert' ski. Searching for a bargain you might find your best deals looking for a race ski and I am told the GS or Supercross/SC/SX cuts are more comfortable making that transition from old school skinny straight skis. Whatever the case, the SX:B5 skis I ended up with do feel very friendly underfoot.

I bought used because they were in very good condition and I was impatient and frustrated but you can find new skis from the last couple years being liquidated around here, on Ebay, and other places. In this thread I was seeking advice on a specific pair of skis that may have been unsuitable but there were suggestions for alternatives that might apply to yourself also. Poke around this site and there is a wealth of information. When I was looking at skis on Ebay I would use site:epicski.com on my google search to research the various models and could quickly pull up reviews. Those without review here usually turned out to be unworthy of consideration.

Of course, I see demo tents set up all the time. Skiing demo skis can be bad for the pocketbook if you do not watch yourself but you can get an idea of what you are happy on then search from there.

Good luck!
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Originally Posted by MikeMike22 View Post
I am looking for some advice on buying a used pair of skis, 3 to 4 years old. I was an advanced skier in the northeast, Gore, Killinton, Smugglers,ect. I would like an all around ski and I like speed. I am 47, 6' 2'' and 240lbs. Any advice would be appreciated. Thanks, Mike.
Welcome to EpicSki... and back to skiing!

Start with boots. New ones. From a true boot specialist (see the lists here on EpicSki for a good start). Get them fit, balanced, and aligned. Then, demo some skis. You can do this virtually anywhere. Try different types of modern skis. Ideally, get some insight into the changes in technique that will allow you to get the most out of the skis. There are many threads here on EpicSki that can give you some insights into those changes.

Bottom line: it's a new sport. To get the most enjoyment out of it, a little investment of time and appropriate investment in the right gear in the right order will pay big dividends.

EpicSki is a great resource for all of this. So, once again, welcome!
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Thanks for the advice. With two teenage boys who are starting boarding this year I cant afford new skis for me and renting evrey time I go with them does not make sense. I have started to look around ebay. With the new shape skis I am told 185 - 190s would be right? My shortest skis were 195s and they were my bump skis. Would a 186 Atomic GS 2005 or a 186 Saloman Scream 10 Pilot 2001 work for me, there in my budget.
Thanks Again.
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Boots. What do you have/or are getting/planning to in the way of boots?. I am a bit lighter than you(215). I have had Screamers and do have some GS 11's. Let us know about the boot situation then more on why those 2 skis are not suitable for what you want.
post #7 of 11
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I just started today looking at some boots. I an going to need a size 30.5. If any one has some for sale let me know.
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Mike -

I switched to Telemark skiing last year and have a pair of Dalbello alpine boots I no longer need. They're 31, I think. I'm willing to let them go for cheap. I can send you a jpeg and you can inquire w/someone(a knowledgeable Bear) who knows boots, to see if they'll work for you. Only thing is I'm on Ski-fari in VT and won't be back home to Boston till next Sat. You can PM me if you're interested.
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More than worrying about a three to four year old pair of skis you are thinking of buying (although you could likely get last year's models quite cheaply), I'd take a lesson. If you are skiing on the frontside mostly, carving skis aren't designed for skidding although that's what a great many skiers continue to do with them if they learned on straight skis. Taking a lesson on how to use today,s equipment will allow you to get a lot more out of your new skis. As others have said, getting the right boots for you from a good bootfitter is more important than skis. Epic Ski has a list of recommended bootfitters. Sine you are a pretty big guy, when it does come to skis I'd look for something kind of beefy. Both Ski Canada and SkiPress have on-line reviews going back several seasons that should prove helpful.Welcome back.
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I just started today looking at some boots. I an going to need a size 30.5. If any one has some for sale let me know.
Are you basing the size you need via trying boots on or are you using the charts you find everywhere?

For some reason most of the charts are about a size off for most people, including myself as it turns out after the salesman referenced a chart when selling them to me and did not feel the need to fit me. Boots with tight spots can often be fixed by a bootfitter but trying to shim up boots that are too big turns out to be a frustrating prospect with little appeal.

For a more accurate method than the charts: with you weight on your feet put your heel against the wall, mark the end of your toes on the floor, then measure the length in cm. The length in cm will give you an idea of where to start looking as the mondo method of boot sizing is based on the length in cm.

If you are in the NH area my boots might be an option if you can use size 30. I wear 11.5 in street shoes but it turns out I really need a 28.5 in ski boots. If interested we can exchange more information. On a similar note: if someone has a steal on a pair of 28.5 boots let me know.
post #11 of 11
Thread Starter 
A lesson would make sense, I will be taking my sons up to Whiteface in two weeks and perhaps I will take a lesson.
Right or wrong I have bought a pair of Scream 10 pilots 186s the price was right and they are like new. However while I was in the ski shop trying on boots a pair of volk tigersharks caught my eye $$$.
Boots, after trying on many I am most comfortable with 30.5. Next year maybe a bootfitter and a pair of tigersharks?? Thanks again for all the input.
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