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post #91 of 109

 

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Originally Posted by snofun3 View Post

 


 

Okey doke, Silverton, Aspen Highlands, A-Basin, Crested Butte, Telluride can't compare to Alta.
 

Gawd .

 

Quit while you're only this far behind.

 

you seem to have some strange, if not misplaced, colorado fetish

 

but alta's annual snowfall = 514 inches

 

 

Colorado just isn't in the same league.

 

combine that with the convenience of having a major airport, cheap lodging, and a costco's located 30-40 minutes away from 10 major resorts--it's a no brainer.

 

Sorry, dude---colorado just can't compete with that.

post #92 of 109

 

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 Colorado just isn't in the same league.

 

combine that with the convenience of having a major airport, cheap lodging, and a costco's located 30-40 minutes away from 10 major resorts--it's a no brainer.

 

Sorry, dude---colorado just can't compete with that.

I'm a Costco fan, but I don't know I've ever seen it used as an argument as to what is a  "Top Resort".

 

BTW--Vail and Beaver Creek have a Costco just a few miles away.

post #93 of 109

Some of the Colorado resorts -- Telluride, Crested Butte, Breck, even Aspen -- have way better ambiance than the Utah resorts, particularly Snowbird, Alta and Snowbasin. If you like a ski town as your base, Utah lags. So it's not such a slamdunk. I'd rather ski at Alta, but Colorado scores points too, just saying.

post #94 of 109


 

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Originally Posted by mrzinwin View Post

 

 

 

you seem to have some strange, if not misplaced, colorado fetish

 

but alta's annual snowfall = 514 inches

 

 

Colorado just isn't in the same league.

 

combine that with the convenience of having a major airport, cheap lodging, and a costco's located 30-40 minutes away from 10 major resorts--it's a no brainer.

 

Sorry, dude---colorado just can't compete with that.

And to think I was commenting on the skiing versus convenience or shopping on a ski web site. You may want to gravitate over to alpinezone if these are your priorities. Or maybe that indoor place in New Jersey would be your dream - Newark's next door, and they have shopping IN the "resort". 
 

post #95 of 109

lets beat another dead horse ... Colorado vs Utah!

 

How about vertical ... Utah can't compete there overall

post #96 of 109

 

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Originally Posted by Coach13 View Post

 

 

I'm a Costco fan, but I don't know I've ever seen it used as an argument as to what is a  "Top Resort".

 

BTW--Vail and Beaver Creek have a Costco just a few miles away.

 

There's nothing like a Berry sunday, after a long day of skiing....

 

Plus, we like to get a thing of cookies and turkey wraps and eat them on the lift to avoid having to stop for lunch.

post #97 of 109

 

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Originally Posted by prickly View Post

 

Some of the Colorado resorts -- Telluride, Crested Butte, Breck, even Aspen -- have way better ambiance than the Utah resorts, particularly Snowbird, Alta and Snowbasin. If you like a ski town as your base, Utah lags. So it's not such a slamdunk. I'd rather ski at Alta, but Colorado scores points too, just saying.

 

Depends what you're looking for.  Personally, all I care about is the skiing, and the logistics of getting to good snow in the cheapest way possible.  Utah is way better in that category.

 

But if you have family and you're into that kind of experience, then Utah isn't your place.

 

 

post #98 of 109

 

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lets beat another dead horse ... Colorado vs Utah!

 

How about vertical ... Utah can't compete there overall

 

for me,

 

cheapness; good snow >> vertical

post #99 of 109

 

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And to think I was commenting on the skiing versus convenience or shopping on a ski web site. You may want to gravitate over to alpinezone if these are your priorities. Or maybe that indoor place in New Jersey would be your dream - Newark's next door, and they have shopping IN the "resort". 
 

 

It's just about convenience and cost.  Utah is next to a big airport, which means flights are cheaper.  It's located in a low-cost city, which means hotels are cheaper.  There's a costco--food is now cheap.  And the hotel is close to 10 resorts, so you can choose, which is convenient. 

 

So Utah, has the best snow, the lowest cost, and the highest convenience.  Colorado doesn't.

post #100 of 109

Sorry I did not mean to start yet one more Utah vs Colorado, pissing contest. 

 But since we do have a "debate"  of sorts.  Ct55 Utah does have the vert. Snowbird and Snow basin both have thigh burning vertical  Snowbird has close to 3000 foot continues steep vert  Snowbasin also has a little under 3000 continues vert from the top of the mount Allen tram.

This isn't saying you don't have that in Colorado. 

post #101 of 109

But how often do you guys ski top to bottom?

post #102 of 109

Vertical is the biggest bunch of garbage in the ski area pissing contest arena. My hill, which I love, don't get me wrong, has 4,400 feet of vertical (or something). So what? I ski it top to bottom once a day, when I go home.

post #103 of 109

The only mountains where vertical actually mean something, off the top of my head:

 

Jackson Hole and Snowbird

 

And it's no wonder that back in 2001 there was a vertical challenge between the two mountains...

post #104 of 109


 

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We're in Park City at the moment, I didn't think much of PCMR, preferred the Canyons, and much preferred Deer Valley.  I would love to go back there to ski the trees and off piste, but conditions are not very good at the moment, some fresh snow is desperately needed.  Although I will say I was very surprised how crowded Deer Valley has been this week, I was under the impression that crowded slopes and lift lines didn't exist in Utah, the crowds this week have been comparable to Vail in holiday periods.

 

 


 

I hate to detract from the Colorado vs Utah flame war but...

 

That's how I would order the three resorts.  Other'n Jupiter, PCMR doesn't do much for me.  At The Canyons, 9990 and the north-facing ridge lines are good but much of the place is sun baked or is prone to eastern-style hardpack.

 

You'd never confuse it with Aspen but Park City is a perfectly adequate ski town.  My mom has lived in both towns so I'm pretty familiar with them.  I prefer Park City in January outside of film festival week when it's not busy.  Late-February into March, I prefer to go more off the beaten track since Park City gets flooded with tourons.

 

I still don't get the "Deer Valley sucks" mantra.  When they have good snow, you have far less competition for the goods.    With 300" of annual snow, you're going to get plenty of good days.  When they don't have good snow, you drive around to LCC where the microclimate is more favorable.

post #105 of 109

 

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But how often do you guys ski top to bottom?

 

At Snowbasin ... just about every run.

post #106 of 109

Crystal,

 

If you want to take advantage of Deer Valley's tree's and steeps you can't spend all your time on the Northside. Blue groomer's attract crowds!

 

On the 27th the only lift line's  were at the Quincy and Northside lift's. The Mayflower lift was empty and the skiing was great! The Lady Morgan lift was empty, and Argus and Magnet were super. Empire lift was a two group liftline, and X-files still had great snow. The Daly shutes were excellent and Anchor tree's still had untracked snow. The bumps on Domingo, and Lady Morgan bowl were soft, nicely formed, and empty. The Sultan lift had not, and still hasn't seen a liftline in a week.

post #107 of 109

 

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Originally Posted by NeedToSki View Post

 

 

 

At Snowbasin ... just about every run.

 

Hence making snowbasin's "effective vertical" a lot higher.  I think snowbasin has the 4th highest vertical feet served by a single lift in the US.

 

It really doesn't matter how much total vertical a resort has.  What matters is how much vertical can be accessed by a single lift.

post #108 of 109


 

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It really doesn't matter how much total vertical a resort has.  What matters is how much vertical can be accessed by a single lift.

That might be a better measure, but what really matters to me is hard to quantify. I guess I would say "interesting vertical per decent"
 

 

 

 

Some resorts have great long runs, while others with greater vertical have couple hundred feet of fun stuff preceded and followed by a 20 degree pitch.

 

Although I have never been to Snowbasin, it sounds like a lot of fun!

post #109 of 109

 

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Originally Posted by manchester81 View Post

 


 

That might be a better measure, but what really matters to me is hard to quantify. I guess I would say "interesting vertical per decent"
 

 

 

 

Some resorts have great long runs, while others with greater vertical have couple hundred feet of fun stuff preceded and followed by a 20 degree pitch.

 

Although I have never been to Snowbasin, it sounds like a lot of fun!

 

Snowbasin is definitely one of those resorts that has "great long runs." 

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