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Getting back into it. What Gear?

post #1 of 22
Thread Starter 
Ok I realize that this is the most asked question but mine is a little more unique. I am 37 yrs old, 6'8" ,265 lbs and getting back into the sport after 14yrs and wow had gear changed. Looking for some direction on gear. Ski's and bindings to be more precise. I would classify my ability as inter-adv. I went out a couple of time on some rental demo's and they gave me 180's. Seemed short and could not even keep speed/glide on a cat track. They were X-Screams....Felt really soft. I tend to ski more on my tails. My last set of ski's that I loved if you can remember were a set of 215 Rossignol 4s w/ 747 eqip bindings

So I am looking for some guidance on what to get. Looking for a stiff ski that I can ski groomed some ice, avg. moguls and powder....also need a good binding as the knees are not what they use to be. 1-ACL and 6 meniscus. So looking for something that is multi direction but will still hold if skied hard....


post #2 of 22
If I'd been away for many years, I'd go to a great bootfitter and get some boots, demo some boards from a shop that knows what they're talking about (maybe the same shop that houses the bootfitter), and take a few lessons with some of the great instructors on this site so that I knew the proper technique with the new equipment. BTW, where would you be skiing? Locations? Terrain?
post #3 of 22
You're really tall. . . But maybe LPs?
post #4 of 22
Thread Starter 
Skiing Northern Idaho panhandle. Silver Mountain, Lookout, Mt. Spokane and 49.

But maybe LPs?
What are LP?

Demo boards that is the farest thing from my mind. The entire mountain is crawling with this.......

Hoping to find some useful advise.....
post #5 of 22
I think you would be wise to take some lessons or read up on the new ski technique. You really do not want to be skiing on your tails.

As far as a ski, you may want to look at a Fischer RX9 or a GS ski.

Any modern binding will work, although many hate Markers.
post #6 of 22
Thread Starter 
OK not too worried about lesson's. It has been like riding a bike.....I guess what I was trying to say is that when I find myself in a situation that I am on the back of the tails with a short soft ski it is much harder to recover easy.

Remember that there is a lot of leverage going on here!

After 5 times out this season I am back on blues and blacks with no trouble at all. I guess that I am looking for advice for demo's before I go out and dump the $$$$$$$

post #7 of 22
You seam to know it all already. Don't need a lesson, yet you ski from the back seat.

I guess as long as you dont hurt someone else and are having fun no big deal.

Todays skis are much easier to ski then the skis of yesteryear and you should have no trouble recovering when you get to the backs of your tails if you are centered to begin with.
post #8 of 22
Thread Starter 
Please this was never a question about technique or wanting lessons. This tail thing has been badly miss understood by bad choice of words..........

I am asking about equipment!!!!! Comparison between the different brands. Likes and dislikes!
post #9 of 22
Given everything you're saying, find the biggest Dynastar LPs or stiff PM Gear Bros you can find & go rip it up. Don't worry 'bout the knees; when they go they go...
post #10 of 22
I love fischers. I have a pair of Big Stix and i use the Progressor as my everyday ski.

Both allow me to ski all over the mountain but i tend to use the Big Stix for Powder days. The Progressor does just fine in the power though.
post #11 of 22
I probably should have explained my post better. New ski technique is based on a balanced stance. We do not drive the knee to engage the tips, nor do we sit back and ride the tails of the skis. The design of the new skis allow you to tip them on edge and ride/work the entire ski.

So, yes in a way it is like riding a bike. But the bike has changed and to get the benefit of the new bike, you need to adjust your riding technique. the old technique will work, but it is limiting.

If you want a ski that is suited to the old technique, get one without a lot of sidecut, or look on eBay for an old straight ski in good shape.
post #12 of 22
post #13 of 22
Thread Starter 
So, yes in a way it is like riding a bike. But the bike has changed and to get the benefit of the new bike, you need to adjust your riding technique. the old technique will work, but it is limiting.

Good Point Taken!
post #14 of 22
Demo/Rentals get waxed once a year in most shops and if you are lucky they may sharpen the edges.

I wouldn't judge glide on a cat track based on demos.

The ski you want does not exist.

Ice, moguls and powder? I'd be retired if I could come up with that combo.
post #15 of 22

I remember back in the day, when the word Quiver meant something that held arrows, we skied one ski in all conditions and terrain.
post #16 of 22
Vail. Definitely Vail.

Also, the only skis and bindings worth buying are Voelkl and Marker.
post #17 of 22
How about some advice that might help you.........
you will have some growing pains moving into the new equipment. Most of us here have lived though, fought, accepted, then embraced the changes in tecnology.
That being said you should probably start, as stated, by trying out your options and demoing some skis. All the brands are good for the most part. One thing to know is that when talking about skis we describe them by thier waist width, or the narrowest portion of the ski. Your old 4S' were probably around 60-63mm under foot. I'm going to recommend you start out trying ski's with mid to upper 70mm waists. These skis will do everything well, but they will not do anything exceptionally (IE - powder, carve). They are in the middle and are designed to work all over the mountain. From there you can deciede if you want to go fatter. From the description you gave I would not recommend anything above 90mm. These skis also will be quite shorter than what you were used too, expect to be skiing on 180-185cm.

Here is a quick possible list for you.....
Volkl AC30 -76mm - 184cm
Nordica Nitrous - 78mm - 186cm
Head Monster iM 78 - 78mm - 183cm
Dynastar Legend 8000 - 79mm - 184cm
K2 Apache Recon - 78mm - 181cm
Rossignol B78 - 78mm - 182cm

These are but a few of the options out there for you and probably what ever shop you go too will have two or three of these.

Good Luck, HAVE FUN, and welcome back to the best sport in the world.......
post #18 of 22
Thread Starter 
Argus, Thanks finally something that I was looking for. A local rental place here is pretty got with what they have for demos. I am out this Sat and Sunday and will see if I can try at least a couple of what you have suggested....thanks

Any thoughts on Atomics?

post #19 of 22
Atomic makes great skis. I prefer other brands based on how I ski and what I want the ski to do. Everyone likes something a little different. You may prefer them to the other brands.
So a couple of Atomic's in the same vein as the ones I mentioned before would be...
Slim Daddy 76mm, 183cm
Sweet Daddy, 80mm, 181cm

Ok, so now you have a base to start with. Remember as you try these skis, almost every model you try will have a very similar wider version. Basically it will work better in soft snow with mininal decline in groomed performance. However the wider the ski the slower it becomes edge to edge. IE - a little slower through the bumps.

Ok, hope you have a great weekend and look forward to hear what you have to say about some of the stuff you try...
post #20 of 22
At your weight you may want something a bit more substantial. I'm a strong 195 lbs and I've found that I prefer the feel of Dynastar, Fischer and Nordica. They seem to heavier, stiffer boards which translates to stability. Someone mentioned the Legend Pro (LP) which is what I ski in a 194...it is incredible, however, if you aren't it isn't the most forgiving of skis. I posted some reviews here:


I've always found Solomon and Volkl both to be on the "too light" side, but find a demo day and try all the brands. You may find that you like a ski not so stiff and be surprised. Finally, if anyone tells you this particular ski is the "best" ski don't take their advice because they don't what they are talking about.

As for bindings...this is the easy question, forget Marker, they prerelease. Look/Rossi and Solomon are well respected and I've been very satisfied with my skis mounted up with Tyrolia/Head.
post #21 of 22
Thread Starter 
Ok got out this week a couple time and was able to demo a couple different skis....
Volkl AC30 2007 184
Salomon X-Wing Tornado 178
Also the shop owner let me try his Volkl AC3 2006 @ 184

Well I really liked them all but the Volkl AC3 really stood out to me. Condition were groomed and crud. The X-Wing was also good. I am going to try the X-Wing Fury in a 184 this next weekend and see.....still trying to find some longer to demo but a lot a limited to the avg. skier.

If I had to right now choose I would say the Volkl AC3 Unlimitied 184

Would still like to try them in some powder......

post #22 of 22
So, it's been about a month since your last post in this thread. Does this story have an ending? Did you buy skis?
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