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Roces Adjustable Ski Boots

post #1 of 34
Thread Starter 
Does anyone have any experience with these boots? Sounds like a good idea...


post #2 of 34
I bought a pair for my 8 yr old grandson.He shell fit in the middle of the adjustment range,so we will get another year out of them.The boot is quite well made for an entry level kids boot.On his first real ski trip (4 days at Big Sky) I had him skiing steeper blue trails confidently and in control.I didn't hear a peep from him about his feet. I highly recommend.
post #3 of 34
I first learned about this boot in Ski magazine's December '07 issue. They featured them in their "Gear of the year" article as an idea for kids. I didn't buy them for my 5 year old son, because he was at the top of the range for the smaller pair and I got a good deal on an old lease package that included boots. I would love to hear more from anyone else who might have had any experiences with them, as I may get them for him next year.

post #4 of 34
Maybe I'm just a traditionalist, but these seem like a very bad idea to me. Boot fit is just too important.
post #5 of 34
I, too, have been curious about this boot. Yes, boot fit is important, however, my 6 y.o. has boots that do not fit properly, too big. The shop I got them from basically asked her if they felt good. I kept trying to insert myself and ask if she could feel the end of the boot with her toes. When all was said and done the tech said these will work. Yes, they work, but are to large for her. Nothing like backseat skiing to learn about edging.
post #6 of 34
I've left stores like that.

It makes such a big difference in thier skiing.
post #7 of 34
Kids boots are too cheap on Ebay not to get the right size.
post #8 of 34

Roces adjustable boots, good and bad, but mostly good.

I know this is an old post, but I'm putting this out for others. Before buying I did lots of searches online and found no real info from owners of these boots. I gambled and bought 2 pairs. I hope this info can help some other parents.

My son is 6 years old and fits in the middle sized boot, and my daughter is 9 years old and fits in the largest boot. To fit each kid, the boots had to be shrunk down to their smallest sizes.

My first impression of the boot was actually of the boxes before even opening them. These boxes look like these are a low quality imports from China. The maker Roces is more known for inline skates, presumably made in China also. The boxes really remind me of cheap rollerblades found at Walmart.

Inside the box, the boots actually looked and felt pretty decent, but not as good as my daughters last boots that were top end Langes. They seemed to be noticeably better than my sons rentals from last year though. I guess you can call them a really good entry level boot.

It took a while to fit the boots to my son, as the volume was too high in the ball of foot area. I had to cut out 2 layers of boot fitting dense foam and put underneath the liners. A pain, but likely necessary with most regular boots in his size also. The expandable (accordian) rubber area in the center of the liner tended to want to bulge in on the sole rather than lay flat. This took a while to get it just right. Remember that I do have the boots in the smallest position and then made them a even a little tighter. Eventually I got them fit pretty good. I don't think that I could have done any better with a regular boot. The good news is that I can make them bigger midseason if needed and they should fit through the next year or two. I tried moving the boot height extender (calf area) up and down. This is useless, a gimmick at best. It's too flexible to add support as it is raised up. It is in a place where it cant do much anyway if it worked. I found the boot size adjuster to work well, and this is what is important. The buckles work much smoother than the rentals from last year.

My daughters boots were an easy fit. I just had to tighten the boot size adjuster to it's smallest position. They seem to fit her well without additional modification. The buckles work very smoothly, but one broke the first time I tensioned it. This is where I find these boots bad. Some structural parts of the buckle are plastic (or composite as they like to call it). There was probably a moulding defect right at a rivet. I'm guessing that most entry level boots have this cost cutting measure, so I'll give it a pass at this point. We'll see in a year or two if they hold up. The shop that I purchased these from swapped out the broken boots. I like them enough at this point to not go for the refund option and keep the replacement boots.

I do find it sad though. I look at my daughters old boots which have 100% metal buckles and are made in Italy, and wish that these were as good. I would be willing to pay $50 extra for that. The adjustability wins me over though. I think that overall the fit will be better than regular boots as I just wouldn't replace them often enough.

I bought them online from Level Nine Sports, $94 for the middle sized one, and $99 for the largest size. When I called to get the broken boot replaced the rep seemed to be surprised. He said that this is only the second problem boot in the 2 years that his shop has been selling them. I voiced my concern about the plastic used in the buckles and he hadn't heard of problems with them yet. So, I'm hoping that this is just an isolated manufacturing flaw rather than a design and engineering flaw.

I'll try to update after the kids have put some miles on these.
post #9 of 34
Last year my 6 y.o. used them and they worked fine and he had no complaints. He is now 7 but I have not yet adjusted them for this year. I expect him to be in them for at least 2-3 seasons. Since he is not a racer and we just ski a few days a year as a family I think they will work just fine.
post #10 of 34
Thread Starter 
I actually first posted this back in February. I finally decided to give them a try...ordered two pairs today from level nine as well. Hoping for the best.
post #11 of 34
Originally Posted by knoxski View Post
I actually first posted this back in February. I finally decided to give them a try...ordered two pairs today from level nine as well. Hoping for the best.
Keep me informed, please. I am very interested.
post #12 of 34
Originally Posted by Philpug View Post
Kids boots are too cheap on Ebay not to get the right size.
I have managed to get my son's boots for just about free for the past couple of years.

Search here & ebay for barely used (proper size) kids boots. I've spent from $35 to $50, then sold them the beginning of the next season for within $5 of what I paid.

It had worked with skis also. By a kid's ski & binding combo from Level Nine from $80 to $130. Then sell them with one seasons use. Usually lose about $20 to $30. Not bad for a year of skiing. Cost me less than a weekend rental.

I only wish my I could pull this off with my own gear.
post #13 of 34
Thread Starter 
I purchased my boots from levelnine...also got skis and bindings. My hope is to get two years out of the setup and then sell...hopefully for not a lot less than I paid. Even if I don't get a lot out when I sell, avoiding the rental desk is going to improve our day at the slopes.

Will let everyone know how the adjustable boots work out. Kids are getting the setups for Christmas. As they say , proof is in the pudding.
post #14 of 34
Something just doesn't add up. If it is an "entry level" boot. Why would your son or daughter still be in it a year or two from now? Would not they be in an advanced boot? Or does your son or daughter only ski three days a year?
post #15 of 34
Thread Starter 
My kids probably get around 10 days a year with 3 or 4 of those out west.
post #16 of 34

Update to earlier post by me (sandalboy) with two kids using these boots.


Now we've got enough time on the boots to tell if they will last.   Our kids are averaging 2 ski days a week, not always full days though, so I guess the boots have about 20+ days on them so far.


They are working out great.  None of the buckles busted, as I had been a little worried about.  My daughter initially complained about some shin soreness, but medium thickness rather than thin socks fixed that issue.  She has not complained about anything with the boots since then, and she sure can complain.  My son initially complained about the boot squishing the front of his foot too tight, but that was my fault having added too much packing underfoot.  That was an easy fix.  Also I was worried about cold feet complaints, but that never happened, even when my feet got cold.


Both are intermediate skiers currently, and I don't see the boots being a limiting factor towards further improvement.  My son has even taken a liking to sliding a few of the boxes in the terrain park now.


As far as my initial comment about these being entry level boots and someones followup post about this.  Probably about 90+ % of childrens boots being manufactured are entry level, and most of what you are going to find used and cheap on ebay are going to be entry level.  Any boot fitting correctly and comfortably will do much more for your skiing improvent than an upgrade to a "performance" boot will.  If my kids were advanced skiers with good form, and maybe joining the racing team I would be thinking of something better.

post #17 of 34

We recently purchased a pair for our 6 year old and have not had any complaints.  The adjusting mechanism seems to be rock solid and sturdy.  We have not had any problems with the buckles, though they do seem to be made of cheaper stuff.  However, I did compare the buckles to another pair of kids boots and didn't really see much difference in the quality.  Our goal for our child is to teach him to ski and have him enjoy it.  The boots seem to give him the proper comfort and support that he needs for that goal.  He hasn't complained about his feet getting cold, slipping, or hurting in any way.  Racing/competition is down the road and this boot is not made or marketed for that purpose anyway.  He is not at the age that I need to spend $250 on a pair of boots for one year. You could probably get comparably priced used boots but they would need to be replace at least once a year or more but I doubt they would be anymore effective.  If he gets to the point that his boots are limiting his development I will gladly spend it but I don't see that happening anytime soon.  The only issue is when we first put them on I had to take the liner out and re-insert it as there seemed to be a "fold" in the bellows section.  That took care of the problem and it has not resurfaced.  Based on our experience I would recommend them.  I will update the post next year when he goes up in size if there are any issues making adjustments to the boot. 

post #18 of 34

Thanks sandalboy692 and saltlick, I am certain I will get two pairs (small and large) for my children for next season. 

post #19 of 34

I bought two pairs for this season for my girls (10 & 7) I bought the black one with red buckles size 19-22.5 and the white ones with blue buckles size 16-18.5.


I had to adjust the smaller boot to it's midsize position for my 7year old and it is at it's smallest position for the 10 year old (she has small feet)


Both girls think they feel great and are very comfortable.  They've skiied in them for a total of 15-20 hours (ie. about 4 days of skiing) and have had no complaints.  They are beginning skiiers (green runs..and actually did some easy blue runs on Whistler, BC)


Someone mentioned the boxes looked like cheap Walmart skates..but I didn't think so..maybe I'm not picky...I was impressed with the nice packaging..I still have the boxes..I will take a picture of them and the boots later and post it if I can.


My girls had basic ugly black boots with one buckle...i think rear entry before...and they think the Roces looks cool. They are very pleased with their boots.


They feel sturdy enough and I think are perfect for recreational skiiers...if your child is more advanced and races or does advanced skiing...perhaps they want a more expensive boot but for $94 at Levelninesports (that's what I paid...it is selling there for $89 now) I'll have a good 3 seasons hopefully for the 10 year old...probably one more season for the 7year old.

post #20 of 34
 Levelnine now uses Fedex and UPS exclusively. It will cost me $100 to ship two pairs of junior boots. No thanks. Looking elsewhere now.
post #21 of 34
Originally Posted by Skid View Post

 Levelnine now uses Fedex and UPS exclusively. It will cost me $100 to ship two pairs of junior boots. No thanks. Looking elsewhere now.

Are you sure?  I just checked the Levelnine Website becuase I was planning to order some junior skis from there and they are still advertising:  "Ground shipping to anywhere in the lower 48 is only $15 for your entire order and ships via UPS Ground. Order one pair of gloves or 5 complete ski set-ups and the shipping is $15."
post #22 of 34
Originally Posted by saltlick 
Originally Posted by Skid View Post

 Levelnine now uses Fedex and UPS exclusively. It will cost me $100 to ship two pairs of junior boots. No thanks. Looking elsewhere now.

Are you sure?  I just checked the Levelnine Website becuase I was planning to order some junior skis from there and they are still advertising:  "Ground shipping to anywhere in the lower 48 is only $15 for your entire order and ships via UPS Ground. Order one pair of gloves or 5 complete ski set-ups and the shipping is $15."


I see now that you live in Canada which has different shipping rates.......
post #23 of 34
 I see now that you live in Canada which has different shipping rates.......

Actually, I was wrong too. It's $50 per order, Still bad, I really want to avoid UPS or Fedex for crossborder shipping.
post #24 of 34

After two years of looking, I picked up two pair for my two girls.  Boots appearence looks good, buckles seem sturdy (they do look like rollerblade buckles).  The BSL looks huge if you use the smallest setting.  The claim on the 22.5-25 boot is a 65 flex rating, the same as my daughter's Hotrods from last year.  The 18.5-22 flex rating is about a 50.

I decided to try these since both girls will have maximum size usage.  My youngest (6) may get 3 seasons, or more with these.  My oldest (9) will probably only two, due to her quickly advancing ability.


I can post a review once there is snow on the ground, if anyone is interested in one.

post #25 of 34

Picked up a pair locally for my daughter. Small, she is on the 2nd (of 4 sizes/positions). Quality seems as good as other boots for kids. I would have prefer fuller liner and she will probably need to wear thicker sock to compensate.


She seemed so disappointed when the store person brought out a pair of seasonal rental black rear entry single buckle similar to what she had last year. I just had to do it. Now she is looking forward to skiing.

Edited by Skid - 1/8/11 at 8:07am
post #26 of 34

I bought the Roces adjustable boots (from L9 sports) for my son when he was 7.  He had been taking lessons since age 3, so he was a reasonably advanced skiier for his age.  Big mistake.  The lock (inset in the plastic at the bottom of the boot) that was supposed to hold the boot in the correct size position (the smallest size the boot could be set to, in this case) would not stay put.  It would change position all the time, so I super-glued it in place, which worked for 6-8 weeks (skiing mostly one day per week, with a few two-day ski weekends thrown in).  When the superglue failed, I tried it again, but this time the glue only held for 2 weeks.  A third attempt only lasted for one day.


The next season, I purchased used Lange jr. boots for my son, and I would never consider going back.  The Lange boots are far superior.


I don't think I've ever posted a negative review on this site but I would strongly caution against purchasing the Roces adjustable ski boots.  I was also unhappy with the advice that I received from L9 (that the boots would be suitable for my son).   



post #27 of 34

Hate to resurface such an old thread, but I'm interested if any of the posters here that bought the boots could give us a "review".


I also see that Full Tilt has some using the same idea.  I wonder if their execution is better and possibly worth the extra $50.

post #28 of 34

If you have several kids that might use the boots one after the other over a period of years, and you don't expect any of your kids to ski anything more than blues or easy blacks, the boots might be okay.  I don't think your kids will necessarily improve the same as they could if they had boots that really fit them. If your child is good enough to really pressure the boot, the locking mechanism will fail and the boot will elongate, leaving your child in a boot that doesn't really fit.  Never tried or seen the full tilt version, so I can't comment.


That's what I saw, based on my son's use of the Roces boots for a season.  FWIW, my son often didn't notice that the boot had stretched, he just kept skiing.





post #29 of 34

If I had the option  I would have bought the full tilt..It was not around when we were looking

post #30 of 34

I ended up getting a good deal on the Full Tilts (previous year model), so price wise they were about the same as the Roces.  


Having never seen the Roces in person, I can't compare, but I can tell you that based on what I've read here and other places, I believe the Full Tilts to be much higher quality.  


The adjustment is held in place with 2 allen screws, so I don't see much chance for the boots elongating accidentally.  


They also have Intuition liners, which is a nice bonus.  Seem to be very high quality boots.  Only concern I have is the weight.  They are quite a bit heavier than other kids boots I've seen.  Substantially so.  I'm not sure if that will make much difference.

I'll be sure to report back once my kiddo gets them out on the snow!

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