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Atomic 09 and beyond ?

post #1 of 15
Thread Starter 
I have heard something about a dual deck ski for next year and something about a ski with a tip and tail that will get wider when you put more pressure on them for later...(2010)

Anyone else heard anything?
post #2 of 15
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I have heard something about a dual deck ski for next year and something about a ski with a tip and tail that will get wider when you put more pressure on them for later...(2010)

Anyone else heard anything?
Only this: http://www.planetsnow.de/know-how/is...4.6.htm?skip=1
post #3 of 15
Thread Starter 
Thanks for the link.

To bad I don't read German.

The top skin looks like a Volant. Sorry...
post #4 of 15
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Thanks for the link.

To bad I don't read German.

The top skin looks like a Volant. Sorry...
Well, they do own Volant

There was something out in Vegas, but I didn't pay much attention to it.
post #5 of 15
I heard from a reliable source that Atomic did an on snow dealer intro with the dual deck ski in Utah and it was a total dog, to the point that they are pulling it from the market for this year. This would be a major blow to Atomic since they had put a lot of marketing hype behind the new technology and are badly in need of some new product buzz/momentum . Can anyone else confirm or deny this?
post #6 of 15
Translation of http://www.planetsnow.de/know-how/is...4.6.htm?skip=1via babelfish:

"This ski is a true chamaeleon in things driving along curves: Depending on how large the pressure is on the boards, the radius varies according to manufacturer between 12 and 18 meters. Slots in the shovel and tail range of the slats make this conversion effect possible. If the driver brings pressure on the ski and if this bends, then the double head and the split end move apart and make the Atomic the slalom artist. Without pressure the Vario navigates CUT against it benefitful by long drawn momenta.
... and a split tail.
Photo: Holger blackBeside the Vario CUT with flexible radii brings Atomic with the Vario Flex in the coming season a ski on the market, which becomes harder with increasing bend - and thus to the Racemaschine mutates. Atomic works here with a construction from upper and relatively soft Unterski. Between them rubber elastomers work as liaison vehicle. They ensure for the fact that the Vario Flex hardens with aggressive driving fashion."
post #7 of 15
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Thanks BigE, your the best.
post #8 of 15
BigE: Nice translation.

My gut feeling is that the design is complex, perhaps too complex to stick.

I'm not sure I'd want a ski with constantly varying sidecut.

Typically, we choose a ski and learn to ski it in most conditions. How do you adjust to a ski that's always changing?

I'm also not convinced it will be reliable - no breakdown over years of use.

I could be wrong. Vario could be "the next great thing".

I'm far from convinced.
post #9 of 15
Same here, the last thing I want is when ripping a high speed GS turn, and I want to tighten it, that the radius of the ski shrinks.

If anything this ski will reward banking -- you won't need to learn how to angulate!

It must be a disaster in the bumps!
post #10 of 15
I have tested the Atomic Vario Flex and Cut, and the Flex is just great. You have to get used to it, and if you are Oldshool-skier, forget it. But with little effort it change from stif big high speed turn ski, to super slalom short turns. This is with the 72 cm. The Vario Cut I do not understand, and the change of the radius confuses you more than it helps.
If you are an advanced skier go for the Atomic D2 Vario Flex 72cm. It works well all over the mountain, like f.ex. Salomon X-wing tornado Ti.
Be sure your muscles are well trained
post #11 of 15
I was blown away by the 182cm 82mm Varioflex. I haven't been as impressed with a ski in many years. I'm not giving my test ski back.

The Double Deck technology has proven itself on the World Cup with winning results in both men's and women's GS. There are DH and SG versions, but not often used yet.

Next year's Atomic line-up will see an expanded Double Deck line, including Race.
post #12 of 15
Any effect on bindings, in the sense of allowing or mandating redesign of current lines?
post #13 of 15
Hmmmm?
Any chance of seeing a review on that Betaracer?
post #14 of 15
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I was blown away by the 182cm 82mm Varioflex. I haven't been as impressed with a ski in many years. I'm not giving my test ski back.

Review Review!
post #15 of 15
I hope to get on them next week at the trade show.
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