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Tips needed for shortening stance width.

post #1 of 13
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Another year and though I feel like I ski and carve much better than last year, my stance is still a little too wide. I think the reason it came about was because I crossed my skis a couple of times when I started learning a few years back and fell on my face and since then just skied with a wider stance.

Anyway, I have tried to narrow my stance but once I get into tricky conditions, my stance widens automatically. Any drills or is it pretty much do it till you learn it kinda thing :?
post #2 of 13
For skiing on usual groomed terrain, skis should be shoulder width apart. On steeper terrain, with skis shoulder width apart, it appears there is a greater separation between the skis because the downhill ski is further down the hill than on flatter terrain.

If you are centred with your weight through your boots and both skis are on edge and carving through a turn, there is virtually no risk of crossing your skis.

You might get your ski buddy to ski behind you and see if your stance changes on steeper terrain.
post #3 of 13
Check out this thread - http://forums.epicski.com/showthread.php?t=65662

Particularly my post #10... Hope it helps!
post #4 of 13
You may need to work on your transition. If you are reluctant to let go of the old edge you may widen the stance as the new turn starts. You need to be releasing that inside ski.
post #5 of 13
Yes, work in general on your skiing and it will fix all of your problems down the line for the rest of your life . Its perfectly in order to widen the stance on steeper and more demanding terrain. Problem with you is probably that you retard to old technique once your stance widens up. You cannot balance over your outside ski the way you do if you have a more narrow stance. When your stance is wider you need to angulate more for instance and a lot of other things as well. Hope this helps.
post #6 of 13
First, (if needed)get your boots canted. They should set up the wands when they measure the position of the knees over the feet so that their centers are under your hips.

This will give you the correct home base stance width of feet under hips. From this point, you may vary as you see fit -- narrower when skiing soft/variable/bumps and wider as you see appropriate.
post #7 of 13
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empressdiver, I am not so worried about steeps as I am worries about bumps. Thats when I feel like my stance is too wide. You are right that the chance of me crossing skis is pretty low at this point but still its kinda tough to unlearn the old.

vsp, thanks for the thread. Epic, there might be some times that I fail to release the new edge, ill take more notice..

tdk, wish that were true that skiing could fix up my life . I find that I cant angulate too much with a wider stance as the weight distribution is a little worse than a narrow stance (more weight on the inside ski, in relation to the narrow stance scenario)

BigE, I definitely need a boot alignment. Just sucks that the only boot pro I found on epic is an hours drive from here .


Lastly, here is pic I made from one right footed and one left footed turn. You can see o nthe right footed turn, my stance is significantly wider than shoulder width. Almost a big A frame.

post #8 of 13
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empressdiver, I am not so worried about steeps as I am worries about bumps. Thats when I feel like my stance is too wide. You are right that the chance of me crossing skis is pretty low at this point but still its kinda tough to unlearn the old.

vsp, thanks for the thread. Epic, there might be some times that I fail to release the new edge, ill take more notice..

tdk, wish that were true that skiing could fix up my life . I find that I cant angulate too much with a wider stance as the weight distribution is a little worse than a narrow stance (more weight on the inside ski, in relation to the narrow stance scenario)

BigE, I definitely need a boot alignment. Just sucks that the only boot pro I found on epic is an hours drive from here .


Lastly, here is pic I made from one right footed and one left footed turn. You can see o nthe right footed turn, my stance is significantly wider than shoulder width. Almost a big A frame.

Are you the guy in the foreground or the one with the cross pointed at?
post #9 of 13
Thread Starter 
Oh yeah, the one with the cross pointed to.. Forgot to add that to the second one but its the skier in the centroid of the three skier in the foreground
post #10 of 13
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Originally Posted by coug View Post
I'm assuming you're the guy who is creating some angles in that picture (with the cross hairs in the first pic). In order to narrow your stance to make it more functional - you need to become less dependant on the inside leg/ski. I would work on a lot of one footed skiing (carving) where you hold the inside ski off the snow but still keep it close to the outside leg. You will quickly find that once you develop that balance you will no longer need the inside ski to support you anymore, and that it will have a much more natural orientation under your hips. This will also allow you to get your CM outside of your (now very wide) base of support. Your skiing will be much more balanced and dynamic.

Later

Greg

Also - the post that VSP referenced is a great post. I'll second his advice there.
post #11 of 13
Thread Starter 
Thanks Greg! you got me spotted right.
I have been noticing that inside ski still bears a good portion of my weight on some of the turns. Ill incorporate the one footed carving drill.
post #12 of 13
Coug,

Have you had your alignment checked? If not, can you get a closer up pic of yourself skiing straight at the camera with both skis flat on the snow?
post #13 of 13
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Originally Posted by therusty View Post
Coug,

Have you had your alignment checked? If not, can you get a closer up pic of yourself skiing straight at the camera with both skis flat on the snow?
Sadly not by a certified bootfitter. There are none within a 1hr radius and I am a little stretched at this moment to spend the time.

The shop I bought it from did a shell alignment and adjusted the canting on my left leg but that was using the canting adjustment on the krypton cross. I couldnt find a dram to fit your description and I am not gonna be skiing for a couple of weeks. Ill definitely get a picture with me skiing straight at the camera next time I am out.
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