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Head Mojo 90- binding suggestions?

post #1 of 11
Thread Starter 
Can someone give me a few suggestions on what binding to get for the new Mojo 90 skis? I will not really be doing much park, but these will be used for any BC skiing or pow days that come my way. Obviously I'm trying to keep costs down so keep that in mind. Thank you for any info!
post #2 of 11
Are you looking for an AT or regular binding?

I think they recommend the mojo 15 on the Head site, but any tyrollia binding will increase your warranty from 1 to 2 years...I am looking at some Mojo 90s that come with LD 12s for what it is worth...I think the LD 12 is less expensive than the Mojo 15 and would probably be enough depending on where you normally set your DIN...
post #3 of 11
post #4 of 11
I have a couple pairs of Mojo 90. One mounted alpine and the other backcountry.

The alpine, I have mounted with a Salomon PowerAxe Race Plate w/ 914. The PowerAxe Race Plate allows the skis the have a much rounder flex than if the bindings were just mounted straight to the skis. The plate also, improves the torsional rigidity and improves the edging. The other advantage of the plate is that it has multiple mounting holes to accommodate varying boot sole lengths, by so, I was able to move the bindings back and forth until I found the best position for me.

FYI, don't mistake the PowerAxe Race plates with the typical PowerAxe plates that a majority of the shops have. There is a night and day difference in each ones performance. Very few shops sell the PowerAxe Race or even know what they are. I'm only sold on the plate, by so, required to use the Salomon binding.

If I were to only mount a binding w/o the plate I've had good luck with most of the top contenders with the exception of Marker, but will make one exception for the Marker Duke. Usually a killer deal determines what gets mounted on my skis out of the top contenders.

As for my Mojo's mounted B/C I had a pair of Fritchi's on them but went to the Marker Duke's this season. Over the years I've had a lot of Fritchi's or Naxo's mounted on my skis, but always felt that they made my skis not handle as nice as they had when skied with alpine bindings. Frankly, the Duke's have erased all of the performance problems and compromises I've experienced with the other backcountry bindings in downhill performance.

If your looking to mainly use these in in soft snow conditions, I highly recommend that you don't mount them at the boot mark. This was my experience on the different mounts:
  • 1.5cm back they carved really nice and rode well in extreme steep terrain (45+ degrees). But in easier blacks and moderate angle powder I had to burn my quads to keep the tips up.
  • 2.5cm back They handled the powder A LOT better in the glades, moderate angles, and easy blacks, and could haul a lot faster. Minor difference in the steeps. But they didn't carve as nicely as they had at 1.5cm back, but still pretty good.
  • 3.5cm They really rode well in the moderate aspen groves and nice big fast bowl turns. A lot less enjoyable carving on the groomers.
Hope this helps!
post #5 of 11
I like the MOJO 15. Once I got the forward pressure set correctly, I have not had any problems with them. They are a little lighter than my Rossi Axials, and hold you just as tight to your skis.
post #6 of 11
Ditto on the Mojo 15. Love them!!!

The other advantage to the Mojo 15 is the full diagonal release, which will supposedly save your ACL should you fall forward at an inappropriate angle. I have flown over the handle bars at high speeds in really heavy snow a couple of times at awkward angles, the bindings released when they were supposed to (not before) and I walked away with no damage other then pride.

Regarding mounting flush or on a plate + mount point back or forward. Suggest you run a search on this topic, specific to this ski. There were a number of posts the last couple of years on the topic.

I originally mounted mine on a 9mm race plate and 1.5cm back. Bad idea (IMO). The plate created an unnatural flex/curve in my opinion. The tips and tails felt soft compared to the body of the ski. Which i noticed most in heavy snow.

In the end I removed the plate and mounted the mojo 15's flush. I mounted them so that the ball of my foot was 1.5cm back of the center of the running surface (not the mark). There is a name for this which I am forgetting. I like this set up. This seems to be the perfect balance point for all conditions.

Good luck with your search, those are good sticks.

PS: Not to screw with your head but take a look at these bad boys: http://forums.epicski.com/showthread.php?t=66315
post #7 of 11

9mm tyrolia plate

"I originally mounted mine on a 9mm race plate and 1.5cm back. Bad idea (IMO). The plate created an unnatural flex/curve in my opinion. The tips and tails felt soft compared to the body of the ski. Which i noticed most in heavy snow."

Dear tja111,

FYI, the 9mm tyrolia plate that you mounted on your skis would probably have the undesired flex that you mentioned because of its design on a ski like the Mojo 90. The Salomon PowerAxe Race plate is on a totally different playing field!

As mentioned in my first post, the PowerAxe Race allows the ski to have a much rounder natural flex as opposed to them just being mounted flush. But it also makes the ski more torsionally rigid making it hold a edge better. This is why I'm sold on this specific plate.

To clarify, I'm not suggesting mounting just any plate. I feel that most of the other plates out there would create the same undesired effect you experienced on this type of ski.

A designer in Annecy France (Salomon) onetime told me to try the PowerAxe Race plate on my powder/big mountain skis. Frankly, I was skeptical about putting a race plate on powder/big mountain ski and feared that I would experience the same problems you had with your plate. He did a demonstration of two exact Salomon skis, one mounted with the PowerAxe Race and the other mounted flush. With a boot in each ski, I could visually see that the ski with the PowerAxe Race plate had a more noticeable round flex than the one mounted flush.

He gave me a free plate, I tried it, and have been a big fan ever since.
post #8 of 11
"I could visually see that the ski with the PowerAxe Race plate had a more noticeable round flex than the one mounted flush."

Curious how a plate which mounts at two points (similar to the toe and heel of a binding) with material in between (the plate) whos purpose is to add rigidity to the ski, would allow for a rounder flex pattern then flush mounted bindings which really don't effect the flex at all.

Sorry for my skepticism, but doesn't make much sense. Either that or this is the most ill conceived race plate I have ever hear of...LOL

I am curious however as I noticed a major difference between my ski and the skis I demoed, which were mounted with demo bindings. Of course demo bindings have a ridiculously large and completely flimsy plate underneath them which allow for rapid and frequent binding adjustments which in turn allow for the 7 dwarfs and/or Sasquatch to ski the same ski.

My point with all of this is that those demo skis were awesome. They were far more stable and significantly faster on the hard stuff, while still feeling agile and light under foot. Really good in the deep heavy stuff as well.

I tried very hard to recreate that feel when I originally mounted mine on the tyrolia race plate. As we have already discussed however this was a mistake. In the end the flush mounting works well and I am happy with the skis, though I miss the feel of those demos.

I think that the trend towards added lift and width in bindings designed for all mountain skis will take off in the future (ie: the Duke bindings). The idea is sound in terms of leverage over the edges and appropriate rigidity torsionally and otherwise. Your plate might be a good way interim compromise, if it really works???

Either way, I see myself on Mantras or Mojo 94's or something similar next year.
post #9 of 11

Railflex II?

How does the railflex II compare to either of the two plates mentioned here? I know it allows for easy adjustment to various mount positions (while adding about 13 mm, I think), but how does it affect the flex of the ski?

Thanks,
Matt
post #10 of 11
Thread Starter 
Hey thanks guys! I ended up going with a Mojo 11 cuz money talks and I got a smokin deal. I mounted them right on the line, (not on center) and couldn't be happier! They carve, they foat, and they freakin' rip! If anyone wants to hear the blah blah blah, I'd be happy to tell you about my experience with them. I will now be recommending these skis to anyone who asks... And a huge thank you to all of you who responded!
post #11 of 11
Congrats! Glad you enjoy them.
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