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post #61 of 84
Ivor Biggun
Still racing those cortina bonnets? Sadly the septics won't know what you're talking about.
post #62 of 84
Eurotrash is now trashing our country. Funny, the UK does seem to be more of a colony of the US now. Funny how things change.
post #63 of 84
Question from a European: This is a US site, yes? Well, given that the USA claims to defend the right to free speech (and indeed has elected itself as some kind of "champion of democracy") why does this American site remove postings which represent the personal opinions of forum members? Isn't that tantamount to an admission of hypocrisy? And before site administrators talk about "comments causing offence", do have a re-think about that Free Speech thing.
Whilst you're pondering that one, can anyone explain to me why a half-pint of shandy is deemed to be more dangerous than a semi-automatic rifle in the US? Baffling, that one.
Yes, I'm a skier. But before I talk about skiing with you characters, I want to know whether I'm dealing with open-minded people or not.
post #64 of 84
Eurotrash, you are dealing with open minded people about skiing but this is a skiing site and therefore not a democracy. This is a representative republic of mostly middle aged ol'fart skiers. We haven't entirely lost our puritan/protestant roots and GUNS, thats America, the new Roman Empire.
post #65 of 84
<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Eurotrash:
Question from a European: This is a US site, yes? Well, given that the USA claims to defend the right to free speech (and indeed has elected itself as some kind of "champion of democracy") why does this American site remove postings which represent the personal opinions of forum members? Isn't that tantamount to an admission of hypocrisy? And before site administrators talk about "comments causing offence", do have a re-think about that Free Speech thing.
Whilst you're pondering that one, can anyone explain to me why a half-pint of shandy is deemed to be more dangerous than a semi-automatic rifle in the US? Baffling, that one.
Yes, I'm a skier. But before I talk about skiing with you characters, I want to know whether I'm dealing with open-minded people or not.
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Because Eurotrash,

Although this site is "based in America" it is not publicly funded and therefore not really an American site. The person that put this site together funds the major portion of the cost out of his own pocket and invited us to visit. He has asked us to behave in his "house" so as a common courtesy and as civil people we respect his request. Just as most civil people do not go to a dinner party and trash the host's house, we try to respect this place.

We also have several families of skiers that post here regularly and prefer to keep it clean. If the parents want to expose their children to trash talk there are plenty of places to do this. So we remove some of the more offensive material or at least warn in the subject line for those who wish to steer clear.
post #66 of 84
What happened to "I may not agree with what you say, but I will defend absolutely your right to say it". Free discourse between consenting adults, is the basis of a working society. There can be no true communication in a hierarchical society. If people set themselves up as moderators & thus censors, who guards them for us?

Should you be allowed to edit us when we tell you that skiing in europe is a very different experince to the US, and that if you are a competent skier, there is far more reward for your enterprise in europe?
post #67 of 84
Euro,

guess the JUST IN CASE link went by a little quick on ya, huh?

<FONT COLOR="#800080" SIZE="1">[ April 10, 2002 08:18 AM: Message edited 1 time, by ryan ]</font>
post #68 of 84
dchan is right. I don't go in someone elses house and demand to do anything that I want. You folks who want to have no censor, CONTRUBUTE MANY DOLLAR and then complain. This site isn't gone because it is policed.

<FONT COLOR="#800080" SIZE="1">[ April 10, 2002 08:17 AM: Message edited 1 time, by Pierre eh! ]</font>
post #69 of 84
Although it's based in America it's not publicly funded so isn't an American site? What kind of twisted nonsense is that? You should lay off the weed a bit more often dchan, you make no sense at all, and will probably kill yourself down a couloir one of these days.
post #70 of 84
<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by ryan:
Euro,

guess the JUST IN CASE link went by a little quick on ya, huh?
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No Ryan, it didn't. I thought it was very brave of you though, to attempt to talk to a Brit about the use of irony. I'm surprised you've even heard of the word, but I'm so glad you looked it up in a dictionary - would you like to share it with your fellow humourists?

<FONT COLOR="#800080" SIZE="1">[ April 10, 2002 08:22 AM: Message edited 1 time, by Eurotrash ]</font>
post #71 of 84
<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by IceKing:
What happened to "I may not agree with what you say, but I will defend absolutely your right to say it". Free discourse between consenting adults, is the basis of a working society. There can be no true communication in a hierarchical society. If people set themselves up as moderators & thus censors, who guards them for us?

Should you be allowed to edit us when we tell you that skiing in europe is a very different experince to the US, and that if you are a competent skier, there is far more reward for your enterprise in europe?
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Iceking,

good points.

AC and I have tried our best to not censor opinions about skiing and there are a lot of debates about skiing in Europe and the US. There have been lots of dis-agreements on technique and styles. The parts we do censor are when there are blatent copyright infringments, hateful attacks, and just plain distasteful language. The rest usually gets left up. From time to time when a thread gets too badly filled with posts that fall into these catagories it becomes easier to just delete the whole thread and it pains us to do this.

And you always have the right to go to another site that will put up with this behavior but since AC as asked for some civility, and I like the nature of this group, I will continue to post here and leave you to your jaunts here and elsewhere.
That is your protection against the "evil moderator and censor"
post #72 of 84
"Ivor Biggun-
Still racing those cortina bonnets? Sadly the septics won't know what you're talking about"

Funny you mention them, my favorite "legends of motorsport" episode is when the big lumbering American Galaxie 500's take a couple races from the Cortinas....

Thanks for jogging my memory...
post #73 of 84
Eurotrash yah said:
>>>Although it's based in America it's not publicly funded so isn't an American site? What kind of twisted nonsense is that?<<<

For youz guyz who aren't American it means DA GUBERMENT DON'T OWN IT AND THEREFORE DON'T CONTROL THE CONTENTS.
post #74 of 84
Euroh!

Yeah, i've heard of the word. glad you survived your surprise. I wasn't talking to a Brit, I was talking to EUROTRASH; beyond that i don't give much of a flying fuselage. Anyone here can SAY whatever they want about what they ARE, but it has always seemed to me that those most insistent on doing so are blind somehow to the fact that it's HOW you say something here that most shows who one IS, at least for these purposes.
Bombast might feel like righteous indignation to (the editorial) you, but it still comes off as bombast.
Wouldn't dream of impeding or censoring your style; it has so far spoken quite clearly for itself.

(Do you suppose Irony knows it's a British commodity?)
post #75 of 84
<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Eurotrash:
Although it's based in America it's not publicly funded so isn't an American site? What kind of twisted nonsense is that? You should lay off the weed a bit more often dchan, you make no sense at all, and will probably kill yourself down a couloir one of these days.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>


You are right. that didn't come out the way I meant it to.

This site is not funded with public money and we are not holding you here. The site is based on US soil but it's AC's right to allow what content he wants. If you wish a voice that is un-censored, you can put up your own website and voice them there.
post #76 of 84
Exit 154
Excellent! Cortina bonnet racing has become a highly regarded alpine adventure, with two distinct disciplines, slalom & downhill. Presumably when it crosses the pond it will be perverted.
Pierre eh
Are you as simple as you post?
Ryan
eurotrash/Brit, boy she went straight over your head.
dchan
Two things, first who is AC, and second she virtually has her own sitehttp://www.ifyouski.com/community/results/?template=register&objectid=299036&Comments=Y
post #77 of 84
Dchan. Please get rid of this fool.

'Eurotrash' thinks it's dead clever to sabotage an interesting debate on "What are your favourite five trails of all time" on epicski, launching an anti-US rant in the process.
Personally, I can't see the point.
Submitted by : The Mutineer on 10 Apr 2002


Because mutton head, it's beautiful to see them all squirming like a bag of live bait because there is someone in their midst who doesn't agree with them, and also just because I can. They also hate my name , no doubt because it has negative vibes, so I'll keep using it. What's your excuse for being here?
Submitted by : Eurotrash on 10 Apr 2002

And please get him/her out of my country whilst you're at it.

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<FONT COLOR="#800080" SIZE="1">[ April 10, 2002 09:04 AM: Message edited 1 time, by dabickley ]</font>
post #78 of 84
On second thoughts....perhaps we should point the maggots trolling contest towards their site.
post #79 of 84
is because i can kinda like because it's there?

- Live Bait
post #80 of 84
IceKing, I am pretty darn simple and straight forward. You don't shoot it down, its apt to go right over my head. I don't play them thar dry British head games much.
My father is American Indian and my mother is Dutch (came to the Americas in 1636). I'm pretty much right off the reservation eh. I grew up on northern Lake Michigan USA and came from simple roots of logging, commerical fishing and school teachers. Not exactly parliamentary British society. I see no point is ceding the moral high ground to you. Your kind have been trying to mandate the moral high ground to my family for more than 400 years. Taint worked yet.
post #81 of 84
<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Eurotrash:


Oh that's rich coming from someone from the most uncultured nation on the planet
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post #82 of 84
We should flood them with a PMTS debate!
post #83 of 84
Sorry I stumbled in late on this one, I was out of town skiing and camping for a few days. To the new people here, let me introduce myself...I run this place.

1. Jeff, your manner of discourse in this thread is certainly an improvement. You're welcome to stay if you wish to have conversations like this.

2. Eurotrash and IceKing, your elementary school interpretation of "free speech" and "censorship" is not very clever, and I'll assume with your wit you already know the holes in it so I'm not going to waste my time pointing them out.

3. Posting off-topic replies in a thread is justification for deletion. Since this thread has already spun uncontrollably off-topic, I'll just close it with an apology to those members who were into the "Favorite Trails" discussion.

4. This discussion should be in the "Community Announcement" forum. You may continue it over there if you wish as long as the tone remains constructive.

5. For those still confused, here is an overview of epicski:

epicski exists to offer an open exchange of ideas on the subject of skiing. The objective is to make as many people as possible feel welcome here. Ideas on skiing are not edited. Personal attacks are because they make the place less inviting to many people. Non-skiing topics are irrelevant and not within the scope of this site, so they are often removed unless they are about the site itself or some other specific aspect of this community, in which case there is a separate forum called "Community Announcements & Site Admin" -- where this conversation should have been started.
post #84 of 84
dchan
I have visited alot of the larger resorts in the US. Have had light powder at Alta/Snowbird, which was good. But Steep & deep, no nothing in the US can really stand a fair comparison with either the Chamonix valley or La Grave.
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