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post #31 of 44
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Originally Posted by mudfoot View Post
The Pro and Cross have the same shell. Unless the Rampage does too you're bound to get leakage with a different tongue.
The rampage looks like the same shell, it is at least the same shell shape.
post #32 of 44
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Originally Posted by wilbur View Post
Mudfoot. What're the intended uses of the soft vs hard footbeds?
Hard for racing and soft for freeride.
post #33 of 44
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Originally Posted by Lionel_Bonnot View Post
Hard for racing and soft for freeride.
The Cross has the soft one which is actually kind of rubbery. I imagine it is suppose to soak up shock when you hit the half pipe and rails. My orignal stock liners were very tight and I tried the soft footbeds, which gave me a little bit more room in the fit until the liners packed out a bit, but I didn't like the spongey feel of caving with them. I think it was Phil who mentioned that he uses the soft ones for eastern ice, but switches to the hard ones when he goes west for a trip. It you put the soft ones in for a day you will probably feel the difference immediately.
post #34 of 44
I went and bought the Krypton Pro ID at the end of the season in 24. They've never been used except that I've tried them on three times indoors. No question that they'll fit each foot like a glove - but they do feel really, really stiff - and this is JUNE, for gawdsakes! I can just imagine that they'll be like concrete blocks in winter weather!

I'm 5'8" and 155 pounds. I may have bought the wrong Krypton and maybe should try to exchange them for a softer model - any thoughts on that?
post #35 of 44
facts

pro = cross the cross has narrow shell and a softer flexing shell meaning that if set up with the same tongues/plugs it will still be alittle stiffer.

according to dabello the Pro can be set up anywhere from 95-145 flex.

I run my pros with intutions, stiff tongues, and the rear plug installed in the stiffer setting. I find them still pretty soft for and aft, they feel TOO soft in the warmer tempatures.
post #36 of 44
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Originally Posted by BushwackerinPA View Post
facts

pro = cross the cross has narrow shell and a softer flexing shell meaning that if set up with the same tongues/plugs it will still be alittle stiffer.

according to dabello the Pro can be set up anywhere from 95-145 flex.
The other difference (and I forgot to add this in your PM Oboe) is that Cross ID comes with the silver ID liner vs. the gold that the Pro ID. The Silver ID is indeed a bit softer. If you can return the boot and you want something softer, the IL Moro might be an option for you.
post #37 of 44
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Originally Posted by oboe View Post
I went and bought the Krypton Pro ID at the end of the season in 24. They've never been used except that I've tried them on three times indoors. No question that they'll fit each foot like a glove - but they do feel really, really stiff - and this is JUNE, for gawdsakes! I can just imagine that they'll be like concrete blocks in winter weather!

I'm 5'8" and 155 pounds. I may have bought the wrong Krypton and maybe should try to exchange them for a softer model - any thoughts on that?
Oboe: If you haven't tried it yet, put one of the sets of forward lean wedges in the back of the boots. I know some people ski them straight up without a wedge, but I do not like the Kryps with anything but the large wedges. You need to put your weight into the boots to flex them and increasing the forward lean gives you a little head start on this.

As I have said, these boots drive from the front, so you need to lean into them differently than most other boots. You will get very little, if any, movement from the Kryps by simply flexing your ankle. The neutral postion for me is actually hanging with my weight slightly against the boots, which is what gives them a shock absorbing quality even on the flats.
post #38 of 44
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I wish I had the silver liner instead of the Gold. I will try it next season. The Gold liner is really stiff.
post #39 of 44
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Originally Posted by Lionel_Bonnot View Post
I wish I had the silver liner instead of the Gold. I will try it next season. The Gold liner is really stiff.
I really like the silver liner. I have the first gen gold and they are real stiff.
post #40 of 44
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Originally Posted by Philpug View Post
As I have posted all too many times, this boot is NOT about forward stiffness, it is about lateral stiffness.
Amen.

I have the Pros with the stock (non ID) silver liner. I also had a pair of the Crosses that I sold. Same boot, the Pro just comes with more setup options (boot boards, tongues). These boots are slightly stiffer fore/aft than my old Kryptons and much stiffer laterally. That's the appeal. The fore/aft flex of the 3 piece design should be more forgiving than traditional 2 piece designs. That's why people like them.

It's true that the tongue will act like a shock absorber if it's set up correctly. I'm 165 lbs, and I ski the medium flex tongues. They're perfect. Firmer than my Flexons, but not so much that I get any shin bang.

I've been skiing the 3 piece design for 20 years this year, and have no desire to even consider going back to a traditional boot design.
post #41 of 44
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Originally Posted by Philpug View Post
The other difference (and I forgot to add this in your PM Oboe) is that Cross ID comes with the silver ID liner vs. the gold that the Pro ID. The Silver ID is indeed a bit softer. If you can return the boot and you want something softer, the IL Moro might be an option for you.
In fact, I've ordered the Il Moro with the Silver. I'll compare them indoors, place my bet, and choose the one I want. If it's the Il Moro, then thr Kryp Pro IDs are for sale, NIB. Considering by weight, strength, and skill level, I'll go for whichever can be set up the softest (not that either one of them would be what I'd call soft).
post #42 of 44
I like stiff boots!
post #43 of 44
I have some. Make an offer.
post #44 of 44
It's the Il Moro. Love 'em. The Pro ID's are for sale, new in box.
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