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How to make it to the next level?

post #1 of 14
Thread Starter 
Was wondering what more I could do to improve my skiing. Any helpful advice would be great. I've posted some videos of me skiing over the last two years.
I have not been able to get any footage of this year but intend to soon. I ski as much as time will allow as I am a full time student at Suny Albany. I usually try to go three times a week. So I will post new videos soon, also forgive the horrible camera angle. My father shot the footage and did not know how to use the camera properly. But the other videos are all right quality. I want to be able to take my skiing to the next level. Thank you

Last March

Two years ago
post #2 of 14
farm kobolds down on level 12
post #3 of 14
I remember the incredible job your friend did following you two years ago, Skibum. I seem to recall that comments then were about you turning your skis a lot rather than letting the skis turn you.

The newer video puts a different slant (pardon the pun) on your skiing. You've improved quite a bit in learning to use the equipment more efficiently. However, you could reduce further the energy you're spending on turns by developing more feel for patiently entering them on the new edges by just standing taller and allowing your pelvis to move diagonally in the new direction. Spend some time on more gentle terrain feeling standing on both feet and relaxing the new inside knee so it can move toward the new turn. That should engage the new edges and start the turn. Remain patient, stand on both skis and allow the skis to continue turning you. Play with how gently rolling the inside knee farther and farther into an established turn will increase edge engagements.
post #4 of 14
Thread Starter 
Thanks for the response I received a lesson early in the season. I have begun to stand taller and it has helped my skiing tremendously. I also have skied quite a bit this year already going 29 times and I fell like a much stronger skier . I will post some videos this week when I head up to Jiminy Peak this week. Hopefully you guys will be able to see my improvements I've made this year. Looking forward to all the tips you guys can give me. thanks again!
post #5 of 14
Thread Starter 
MA comments please bump! Bump before I go to bed!
post #6 of 14
Well your probly in bed now any way. since no one else chimed in Ill give you my non technical view on things. I think you are makeing nice turns and seem centered well over your skis. I figure you were just makeing all those turns for the camera and normaly wouldnt make so many on a flater run like that right. There is a real big inprovment over the last year! for me and my buds the name of the game is control and speed. theres nothing i see wrong with those turns your make exept maybe over turnning but probably for the camera your ability looked good. Those turns you made there would be nice on a steeper run or in the Pow just not so far around. If you can keep that style at speed not comming around as far on some ungroomed steeps and mix up the turns with some hops over the uneven terrain and right back into it you will be stylen. Looking good. In the trees find lines were you can use that style weaving threw them with out haveing to stray to much other than varing your rythem. Not to much negitive about how you look there. That reminds me of a training video on here some were i saw a couple weeks ago. It was some juniour racers showing the differant Slalom styles? I think they were like 8 and 12,14 ? if someone knows how to find it a link to there would show Skibum hes on the right track. Theres also some other edging techneques that you may find interesting to practice along the lines of your current style. Ill have a look for it and post the link here if I find it. i found this one Greg is testing a ski but at the end of the clip watch how he turns.Like you only steeper terrain he got a little hop of a bump but kept on with the same rythem he started with. very good form. link: P.s. im still looking for the other one to. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yjkHFPMBFKE
post #7 of 14
Ahaa! I found it this one is some youngsters demonstrating cross block techniques its really well done. The kids are great little skiers also! Follow the links then you have to down load the clip cross block. worth it. http://forums.epicski.com/showthread...ghlight=racers
post #8 of 14
Off the bat the first thing I noticed was the inconsitency of your upper body. Your left pole plant is pretty straight, aiming down the fall line. Your Right pole plant tends to cross your body against the fall line.
Check out Greg's upper body in the video Whipper posted. His upper body is rock solid, and his pole plants are rythmical, symetical, down the fall line, and without any aggerated movement.

I know this first hand, my break through happened when I learned to seperate my upper and lower body and keep my chest pointed down the fall line, learning the art of counter rotation.
post #9 of 14
Thread Starter 
Thanks for the comments so far they have been great. Whipper thanks for the link its great. Would like some more comments though and more help would be great! Thank again fellow bears!
post #10 of 14
The third clip is the best and I simply love the camerawork on your forrest adventure from a couple of years ago. I remember it from back then by the way. Anyway, you have come a long way. Nice skiing but I can trace your style back to the older videos. Im not going to give you proper ma but Im going to give you some pointers. On that third clip you have good flow and nice round turns. Something you lack on other clips. Also not a lot of stemming in that clip. You up-unweight and you hurry your turn entries. You also kind of brake at the waist and block yourselfe into a very countered position, looking down the slope. Your rhythm is 1 - 2 - 1 - 2.... 1 - 2 - 3 - 1 - 2 - 3.... Figure out how you can flex through the transition and extend out into the turn to venture off into down-unweighting insted of up-unweighting. That is pritty much the same thing only timing is different. You need to start using the previous turns rebound and extend at apex and not at transition. That will make you work with your leggs. Extend into the turn and flex towards the very end of the turn at and through transition. Open up your stance a bit and get hold of a shorter pair of sl skis. Ski bumps. You still dont flex your ancles. Look at the very last frame of clip 3, thats what you do not want to do, brake at the waist while no flexing at the ancles. Get your boots checked out or get a new pair of good boots.
post #11 of 14

Help - I've got taco neck!

I like the engagement of the edges, the roundness of the turns and the rhythm.

I'm worried about the stance width. Oops - I see TDK has just posted with a similar observation. I see you opening your stance at the highest pressure in the turn (just after the fall line), then closing it to faciliate getting the COM to the inside of the new turn. I also see a bit of an upper body "pop" in the turns.

I'd like to see the upper body more static vertically and see a more consistent stance width throughout the turns. To get there, you will need to add "long leg/short leg" movements in your turn entry. To do this, as TDK has also noted, you will need to replace the extension of both legs movement at turn initiation with an extension of the new outside leg (using more ankle extension than you currently have) with a simultaneous collapse of the new inside leg. This will move your center diagonally forward into the new turn instead of up. With this move you will get more stability throughout the turn and get earlier edge engagement above the fall line. Do you see where your ski tips come off the ground at the initiation of the last turn in clip 3? With long leg/short leg you would have already been on the new edges at that point in the turn.
post #12 of 14
What are you doing with your hands ? stop bringing them together in front of you.

Hopefully people like therusty can help you figure out what to do with them.

Don't tell him, but he's pretty good, it will go to his head. Then he'll start telling more jokes, don't laugh or he'll keep it up.
post #13 of 14
Thread Starter 


I like all of your feed back and will try to put it to good use tomorrow weather permitting. But I'm not sure if this is a equipment problem or what but I think I might need new boots. The boots I currently have are Salomon sensifit performa 7.0 they are little old. Could this be an alignment issue or boot issue. My boots are maybe 7 years old and I had them custom fit to my feet and they are the most comfortable boot I have ever worn. Any way I will try like all hell to get some footage up from this years season. Thanks again for all your help! You guys are always looking out!
post #14 of 14
IMO yes. Your still in school so if money is an object you may be able to find last years boots in a shop. Have them fitted to your feet.

Find a good boot fitter. One who will spend time with you and your feet. Do you know how to tell the difference between a boot fitter and someone who sells boots ?

Remember boots are the most important part.
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