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post #91 of 117
2/5/08 at 10:34am
ooooohhh snap! I think I just figured out why easterners always seem to raise this question! It's because when we visit the west, many hear locals complaining about subpar conditions that still OWN what we have to deal with at home, which raises the question "what would happen to this guy if he hit a sheet of ice back home?" It's a legitimate response. If ice and bullettproof hardpack were what you had to work with most of the time, would you still love it? I do. I ski the berkshires to get my midweek, after-work vert fix all the time.
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post #92 of 117
2/5/08 at 11:16am

Show some eastern love!

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Originally Posted by snofun3 View Post
"I live in the east and have skied there exactly 2 days so far this season, and will be doing my 18th out west today"...
"I used to be an eastern black diamond skier, until I found out what black diamonds are, now I ski much better, and don't bother with the east anymore."... "Yeah, yeah, there's some steep pitch of about 25 yeards some place at MRG, or Jay or whatever that when it's all icy takes "skill". Sure. Buy a plane ticket and find out how to get your head handed to you"...
See? Snow snobbery at it's finest! He doesn't want to ski, he wants to ski only perfection. On the contrary, try some superman-style heroics out here and if you're off by *this* much and get YOUR head handed to you. Go to Stowe, Smuggs, or hit up Tuckerman's a few days after it snows if you really want to see what you've got after you take away the endless fresh powder, just wear your huggies brotha and let me know so I can watch what it's supposed to look like. :
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post #93 of 117
2/5/08 at 12:45pm
This is a dumb poll because most obviously the best skiers get the most slope time. <g> So really it's personal location to the mountain as well as time and money that determine skiing ability.
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post #94 of 117
2/5/08 at 12:57pm
Dam!! I got sucked in to reading this thread for 2 minutes. That is 2 minutes I'll never have back. Dam it stop writting!
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post #95 of 117
2/5/08 at 1:12pm
My eyes hurt after reading this thread.

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post #96 of 117
2/5/08 at 1:22pm
:b s:
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post #97 of 117
2/5/08 at 1:24pm
No, my eyes really do hurt.
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post #98 of 117
2/5/08 at 1:37pm
Obviously the best skiers are the ones who have spent a decent amount of time skiing both east and west.
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post #99 of 117
2/5/08 at 1:44pm
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Originally Posted by HeluvaSkier View Post
No, my eyes really do hurt.
But do you have a cliché sticker from a western hill to show how core you are when you are ripping in WNY?

If not, you aren't core enough to post here Greg. Also, what a waste of your time learning how to ski on that silly ice stuff. Big deal. snofun3 can do that too, just as good as you. He has stickers.

Two more classes and I roll out for midweek skiing at a place that will still be opening stuff post control tomorrow...
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post #100 of 117
2/5/08 at 2:00pm
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Originally Posted by Garrett View Post
But do you have a cliché sticker from a western hill to show how core you are when you are ripping in WNY?

If not, you aren't core enough to post here Greg. Also, what a waste of your time learning how to ski on that silly ice stuff. Big deal. snofun3 can do that too, just as good as you. He has stickers.

Two more classes and I roll out for midweek skiing at a place that will still be opening stuff post control tomorrow...
No on the stickers... Bummer for me I guess?

Enjoy your turns.
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post #101 of 117
2/5/08 at 2:03pm
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Originally Posted by Garrett View Post
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BTW - how do you make a cool "e" like that? They didn't teach us that in "How to moderate a pointless thread 101."
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post #102 of 117
2/5/08 at 2:08pm
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Originally Posted by Garrett View Post
Two more classes and I roll out for midweek skiing at a place that will still be opening stuff post control tomorrow...
We've got a wind hold today and a forecast for 24" to fall today and another 18" tonight.

*sigh* I guess I'll still be a lousy ice skier tomorrow.
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post #103 of 117
2/5/08 at 2:21pm
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Originally Posted by HeluvaSkier View Post
BTW - how do you make a cool "e" like that? They didn't teach us that in "How to moderate a pointless thread 101."
Control Panel> "Regional and Language Options" in Vista, "Language Tools" in XP IIRC > "Keyboards and Languages" tab > Change Keyboards > Add > United States-International > Language Bar tab > Choose docked on taskbar or floating on desktop > Click OK. XP instructions might be slightly different, but same basic thing.

Now, click on the language bar and switch from your default "US" layout to "US-International".

Press the ' key, then press the e key. Voilà! Note that this works with a bunch of different accent combos. Now you can write Völkl (use the " key) instead of Voelkl, and you can spell baño (shift+tilde next to the 1) all day long. The only annoying thing is that in order to quote something, you have to press the " key and then press space for it to show up. I'm used to it, but I often switch to the regular keyboard layout when I'm writing a lot.
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post #104 of 117
2/5/08 at 2:25pm
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Originally Posted by Garrett View Post
Control Panel> "Regional and Language Options" in Vista, "Language Tools" in XP IIRC > "Keyboards and Languages" tab > Change Keyboards > Add > United States-International > Language Bar tab > Choose docked on taskbar or floating on desktop > Click OK. XP instructions might be slightly different, but same basic thing.

Now, click on the language bar and switch from your default "US" layout to "US-International".

Press the ' key, then press the e key. Voilà! Note that this works with a bunch of different accent combos. Now you can write Völkl (use the " key) instead of Voelkl, and you can spell baño (shift+tilde next to the 1) all day long. The only annoying thing is that in order to quote something, you have to press the " key and then press space for it to show up. I'm used to it, but I often switch to the regular keyboard layout when I'm writing a lot.
Thanks Garrett! There is valuable information in this thread afterall.
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post #105 of 117
2/5/08 at 2:37pm
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Originally Posted by crgildart View Post
Not if you include the Gapers/Tourons/Texans/Okies/etc.. that are "western" skiers:
Umm, even including those folks, I'd still say that #1 is true.


[cough]Gapers? Hunter mtn![/cough]
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post #106 of 117
2/5/08 at 3:43pm
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Originally Posted by snofun3 View Post
No, Sundown is, and it's super gnar. There's video around if you can handle it :. Olympic caliber material if I ever saw it. :
That Connecticut bump run in the video looked like a lot of fun to me. Anyone can have fun at Steamboat. You need some skills to have fun on a little hill. Be a local.
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post #107 of 117
2/5/08 at 8:53pm

Just my 2-cents

Here's a funny antidote I herd on the western slops of Fernie from an easterner (and it hadn't snowed for a week).

"I like the silent snow here" she said with the biggest smile on her face.

cheers
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post #108 of 117
2/6/08 at 5:58am
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Originally Posted by D_Rock View Post
Here's a funny antidote I herd on the western slops of Fernie from an easterner (and it hadn't snowed for a week).

"I like the silent snow here" she said with the biggest smile on her face.

cheers
Loud Powder
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post #109 of 117
2/6/08 at 7:10am
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Originally Posted by DoWork View Post
2). Snow snobbery. This makes me sick. I know a few guys who used to live out here in the east, but have been in Colorado for about 3 years. These guys are now such snow snobs! We went out on a 6" fresh snow day and though conditions were great, these guys were just biitching and disappointed that it wasn't a foot. Nobody likes a spoiled baby. Ski the snow you get and love it- at least it's not ice!

Guilty as charged. Of course, you'd probably think I'm out of my mind, I really only consider good snow conditions at a resort the few hours after it opens after a big dump before it gets tracked out.

I hope that doesn't make you too sick.

I usually ride around 3 times a week (less if it sucks, more if it is great) and I hike 95% of the time so I can find good snow conditions. You can almost always find good untracked snow, you just have to skin a little. If there is nothing out there, and we are in some melt freeze cycle that didn't warm up and I'm left with boilerplate in the backcountry, I'll just take the dogs down to the lake. Or go out to breakfast with the girlfriend. Or hit the climbing gym (summers around the corner).

Ripping rock hard groomers is only fun for a couple of runs for me, not fun enough to plop down $65.

If you guys are as icy as you claim to be, and you get six inches of dust on crust, I have to agree with your Colorado friends ( and wish for a little more than camoflauge for the junk underneath the dust.

If you get used to riding conditions you like anytime you want, it is hard to get that stoked about conditions you think stink.
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post #110 of 117
2/6/08 at 9:19am
In rough numbers I've logged 400 ski days in the West and 900 ski days in the East and my experiences and eyes tell me there is no difference in skier abilities. I would suggest, however, that the more chest thumping one does about East skiers being better OR West skiers being better the better likelihood they are insecure about their own skiing.
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post #111 of 117
2/6/08 at 10:20am
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Originally Posted by HeluvaSkier View Post
Thanks Garrett! There is valuable information in this thread afterall.
If you don't want to change your keyboard layout, you can also use alt-codes to type extended characters. The easiest way to look them up is to use the Windows 'Character Map' program (usually under "Start->Programs->Accessories->System Tools"). You can look up any installed font from your system and see all the available characters. Full Unicode fonts have a lot of extra characters you can access -- such as Arabic, Hebrew, Cyrillic, and various Asian glyphs.

When you select any particular glyph, the keycode for it is displayed in the lower-right corner of the window if the current font supports it. If you only want to see more-or-less 'normal' characters, go to the advanced view and select either "DOS: Western Europe" or "Windows: Western" as the character set. Most fonts supply these characters; only a few will have the other ones.

For instance, holding down ALT and typing the numbers "0237" will produce an accented lowercase i in most fonts ( í ). Some characters cannot be typed with alt codes; from the Character Map tool you can copy such characters to the clipboard and then paste them into an application.

Changing your keyboard layout is much more convenient if you type regularly in a foreign language. But memorizing a few of these is handy if you occasionally need an accented letter.
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post #112 of 117
2/6/08 at 11:24am
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Originally Posted by Matthias99 View Post
If you don't want to change your keyboard layout, you can also use alt-codes to type extended characters. The easiest way to look them up is to use the Windows 'Character Map' program (usually under "Start->Programs->Accessories->System Tools"). You can look up any installed font from your system and see all the available characters. Full Unicode fonts have a lot of extra characters you can access -- such as Arabic, Hebrew, Cyrillic, and various Asian glyphs.

When you select any particular glyph, the keycode for it is displayed in the lower-right corner of the window if the current font supports it. If you only want to see more-or-less 'normal' characters, go to the advanced view and select either "DOS: Western Europe" or "Windows: Western" as the character set. Most fonts supply these characters; only a few will have the other ones.

For instance, holding down ALT and typing the numbers "0237" will produce an accented lowercase i in most fonts ( í ). Some characters cannot be typed with alt codes; from the Character Map tool you can copy such characters to the clipboard and then paste them into an application.

Changing your keyboard layout is much more convenient if you type regularly in a foreign language. But memorizing a few of these is handy if you occasionally need an accented letter.
Wow. Two useful posts in this thread! I'm going to have to write something in french to try this out or something...
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post #113 of 117
2/7/08 at 5:17am
I love it when the western skiers say "we've got 500' already this year"??

How much snow do you need to ski??

I always thought harry morgan's posts were level headed?? Now I wonder??

Oh, and I love the "we'll be skiing 'til July." Here in New England we welcome the change of season's. It's a beautiful thing.
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post #114 of 117
2/7/08 at 5:24am
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Originally Posted by Sugaree View Post
I love it when the western skiers say "we've got 500' already this year"??

How much snow do you need to ski??

I always thought harry morgan's posts were level headed?? Now I wonder??

Oh, and I love the "we'll be skiing 'til July." Here in New England we welcome the change of season's. It's a beautiful thing.
it not about need its about want, since December 15ish I am pretty sure I have skied a run in untracked snow everyday. I am obsessed skier, I ski powder every chance I get. If there is no powder i will still ski because I love it but powder its by far the best meduim for skiing a steep mountain filled with drops. Its more fun and safer.

Also with snowbird policy of letting skis on the summer trams even after the official closing makes me a very happy camper. July will be warm and sunny in SLC but we will still be skiing top to bottom at snowbird.
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post #115 of 117
2/7/08 at 5:41am
BW....point well taken.

We still love the change of season's back here in New England.
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post #116 of 117
2/7/08 at 7:11am
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Originally Posted by Sugaree View Post
I love it when the western skiers say "we've got 500' already this year"??

How much snow do you need to ski??

I always thought harry morgan's posts were level headed?? Now I wonder??

Oh, and I love the "we'll be skiing 'til July." Here in New England we welcome the change of season's. It's a beautiful thing.
One thing that's nice about 500 inches of snow, is the lake and the rivers will be full for the change of seasons. The wildflowers will be out of control. And the hikes will have lots of creeks and seasonal waterfalls so you can cool off when it's 100 degrees out.

One thing I love to do is a cross country hike up to a big north facing bowl. The hike is usually dry the whole way up, easily done in shorts and trail runners. The flowers and shrubs fill the air with their aroma. Then you arrive at this 2000 vert foot bowl with incredible corn skiing.

It finishes at a season waterfall, which is a great place for a snack. Then you just follow a summer hiking trail out the 3 miles back to the car.

Load up, stop and get some beer, and head down to the beach and go swimming.

I would definitely call that a summertime activity.
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post #117 of 117
2/7/08 at 9:19am
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Originally Posted by Sugaree View Post
We still love the change of season's back here in New England.
Almost winter, winter, almost summer, construction.
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