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Googled the iceman-  just came up with about half a million results involving B movies :-).  Did find the device you were on about though, they do look the business. Will consider how much use I'll get out of it as I probably have to cough up the cash for a decent adjustable brace which will be a priority. So for now, a bag of frozen peas will have to do.   


On the cheap,  Joe

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Many thanks to those who responded, it provides some much needed insight. I am visiting family for the holidays and finding it difficult to get an appt with an ortho for a second opinion in the week before christmas.


In the meantime I am trying to see what I can do with this leg in its current condition, so yesterday I went into my pop's home gym and pedaled a stationary bike for 20 minutes no problem, practically no pain and then 30 minutes of various leg extensions and presses (both knees and individual), slowly increased weight until I was pushing my good knee, maybe 70% of total potential on an individual lift, then started alternating between legs so i was lifting all the weight with the bad knee every other rep. Really, no pain. Just some tingling and I felt like i could have kept throwing weight on there but of course I am not trying to blow this thing out. Then I got back on the bike and did some hill climbs for another 20 minutes. This morning, doesn't hurt.


Second opinion or not, I am reluctant to go under the knife and until I figure out how this injury is going to limit my physically, it ain't gonna happen. Thanks again and I will post once I have gone home and made some pow turns--my backyard mountains just got 10 feet of snow in the last week (for the skiers in the forum, can I get a hell yeah!?). 


peace, and happy holidays.

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Hey Tdub: I meant to respond to your post yesterday but got busy. My very humble opinion is that the second opinion is a good idea. I had to have the surgery, but while I was waiting to meet with my surgeon, I chatted with a woman in her 60s who had a partial tear and elected to go the natural repair route. She said she was doing well and seemed to be getting around just fine. Of course, like they say ad nauseum, every case is a little different. From what she told me, and from what someone else said here, the timeframe is as  least as long as doing the surgery. In my case, I actually had a partial tear about two years ago from tripping over a small sidewalk crack (In Europe they call them "steps criminal," lol). I didn't really let it heal and it affected me somewhat when I was transferring in and out of my kayak and when I was driving my car (I don't have cruise control so I used a golf club to work the throttle from time to time to give my knee a stretch - probably not safe even for an ex race car driver). Looking back now after finally doing it all the way - full rupture Dec 5 - I would definitely have done the surgery back when it was an easier fix. Not trying to influence your decison one way or the other, just saying what's true for me. One thing though, I definitely would not be doing exercises with the intensity or duration that you mentioned until you get someone to look at it. I'm sure you've read enough of these posts to know that this rehab is not totally about strengthening. As my OS says, "The tortoise wins the race" on this one. If my understanding is correct, the tendon is rebuilt, in part, by doing controlled - very controlled - microdamage to it which in turn lets the tendon repair itself a tiny bit at a time. It's a Goldilocks thing, not too little or too much. Disclaimer, for what it's worth, this is only my understanding, and this is from someone who is 5 days out of surgery. The only other thing I can say is that if you do decide to do the surgery, I'd be happy to toss my two cents regarding my experience. Wishing you the best! Mel

Edited by melachric - 12/21/10 at 10:29am
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One thing worth mentioning is that pretty much everyone that has suffered a tear has heard from their OS and/or PT to pretty much never do leg extensions again because of the stress it places directly on the affected area.  If you are still healing from a tear, I'd avoid them like the plague.



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Hey Tdub
it is quadfraud. I assume you are near Tahoe with the record dump. I am originally from up there but live in Canada now. I am 6 weeks
removed from the quad injury but did not do the surgery. I am making good progress, but time will tell if it was a good idea. I did not
have the luxury of being on crutches and in a brace for 6 weeks as I am the only person at a business. The exercises are going well
and hope to be back on the skiis to some degreeat the end of january. Most people on this site had the surgery so stay in touch
 about your rehab if you choose to go without the surgery. I am at my-office@shaw.ca
ps I am wearing my boots and skiis around the apartment to get the feel and they are great for exercise such as squats as your
shins are totally straight to take the load from the knee a little

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Greetings fellow quad rippers.  Just wanted to wish you all a merry christmas and to thank you for sharing your experiences and insights concerning this whole process.  Five months and one day out for me and I can finally see the light at the end of the tunnel.  Keep the faith -- you will get there.  I like the way melachric describes the process.  For best results be aggressive but don't be stupid.  Started skiing at four months and four days -- tentatively.  Strenght and endurance have improved with every day since.  Hopefully at six months I will be back to 100%.  Wishing you all a great holiday and a rapid recovery.  Brian

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8 Day's Post Op, 10 Day's Post Injury


I'm a 47 yr old truck driver from Syracuse, NY ( Go Orangemen!!)

I ruptured the Quadricep tendon in my right knee playing basketball in a mens adult league. I had never had a knee injury before in my life.

I was passed the ball, I spun around to shoot the ball on the baseline and next thing I know I'm on the floor with my leg bent behind me and I can't straighten it out. I start to freak out when I realize my knee cap is 4 inches below it's normal position. I went directly to the ER and l

learned my fate a few hours later. I was sent home in a knee immobilizer and crutches and a script for pain.

Luckily I married a nurse who works in the OR at the VA Hospital in Syracuse, Ny. Her specialty field is Orthopedics and she has worked with most of the surgeons in this area. She was able to get me a consult Monday morning and I was examined and scheduled for surgery the next day at 10 am. I was awake for the surgery because they used a spinal on me. I could hear the the doctors talking and the sound of a drill at one point. I was brought to post-op and I was told by the doctor that he was able to make a very good repair.  When the spinal began to wear off I was brought to a room for overnight observation. The spinal wore off completely and the pain came immediately!! The nurse gave me various pain pills over the course of several hours, but nothing would touch the unbelievable pain. The doctor was called and he ordered a morphine PCA pump. The pain went away within an hour and I was in outer space till about noon the next day. I was discharged at 3:30 pm and went home to the couch.

It has been 8 days now since my surgery. I have bandages over the wound and I am in a knee immobilizer. I spend almost all my time on the couch and I get around on crutches. I am going to get my staples out tomorrow 9 day's after my surgery. Hopefully the doctor has some

good news for me. It's 3 day's till Xmas and I'm pretty down and out!



Happy Holidays to All,



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i had surgery 3 weeks ago today.  it is a long and slow rehab the first 6 weeks.   don't want to tear it again- takes the tendon that long to heal then you can start putting some "torque" on it as my PT guy says.   surprisingly you may be able to do a few leg lifts in about a week or 2.


bball for me as well.   


good info on this board.   and yes we are all bored!    hang in there only gets better

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Hey Yorkie quad: No prob, it was on my mind as I work with a lot of trade career guys. Hope you are progressing well otherwise.


Cyndiver: Hi there. I'm six days out from surgery, 61 y/o semi athletic sea kayaker and flyfisher. did mine while studying a Christmas tree we were going to cut, nothing heroic, just unlucky. I've had about 20 or 30 dislocations of my left knee since I was 19, but this is my first rip. I prefer the dislocations, lol. So sorry to hear about your post op pain!  What are you on now? My doc put me on Celebrex  t.i.d.as I cannot tolerate even a half tab of codone without getting sick and plunging into depression (I'm a wus, what can I say?). Seems to work pretty well, pain stays around 1 on a 10-scale. My OS and my partner are kicking my butt on rehab. I have a egg timer by my chair and I am not allowed more than an hour without getting up for a 20 minute hobble/walk on crutches or in a walker. I prefer the walker, feels safer. Daily goal is 1500 steps which with my stride is about 1500 feet, so I'm doing quarter miles but could not keep up with a snail. On top of that I have quad isos (press into bed or couch) five times a day - goal 200, and prone knee lifts to brace lock (30 degrees) also 5X, 200 per day. Because my left knee can't support me very well I have to scooch up and down our stairs at least twice a day which feels like climbing Everest on my ass - an amazing upper body workout. So, basically, I'm living in a Bally's gym here! Sorry for the overshare but this forum feels a lot like a foxhole, so might as well tell stories to pass the time. One thing, based on my past experience with knee stuff I strongly suggest finding the right PT. I've decided that I care much ,ess about meidcal credentials ad much more about whether or not the guy/gal is a true healer. It's a long road ad I want to know they will have my back. I'm "interviewing" a PT tomorrow and if he ain't the guy, I'm gonna keep looking. My previous PT broke his neck about 2 months ago. He's recovering ad he's a friend but his timing is really lousy. Anyway, we all get better eventually, but I think this is a much a head game as a physical one. Oops there's goes the timer. All the best Cyndiver. Mel

Edited by melachric - 12/22/10 at 1:19pm
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Hey Mel,


They gave me Hydrocodone 5 for pain. I have no pain so I guess I'm off of the pills for now. I must say after reading about your PT schedule I feel like a bum, I only get up to go to the bathroom.

I see the Ortho Doc tomorrow and I'll have to ask him what I should be doing to move my recovery along.



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12 Weeks since surgery

13 Weeks since injury

It seems like there are many new faces in here.  And some of the new guys are victims of basketball.  This was my downfall too.  The holiday season has monopolized my time a little and I haven’t really had a chance to read through the posts the way I would like to.  As I skim through, I have noted many of the guys talking about getting straight into rehab and getting on with therapy as soon as possible.  I understand the eagerness; I felt the same way.  But I want to caution you guys about moving or pushing too fast.  This injury is very serious.  The very first thing that must happen after surgery is nothing.  It is important that you give your quadriceps tendon the chance to heal.  This takes five to six weeks before any rehabilitation should start.  I know it is not what you want to hear, but if that tendon is not healed, it won’t matter how much muscle you have.  I have made it through the tendon recovery and I am strength building now.  It will come.  Please be patient. 


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The  total rupture of all muscles in the upper left leg has left me with a long road to rehab that has been all most all consuming. One of the critical lessons I have learnt is that primary rehabilitation is important but secondary rehabilitation is vital. At six months after the injury I was massively strong in some muscles of the leg yet I was still compromised in my walking/running gait.  The journey to find our why has taught me that not only do you lose your motor feedback due to the nerves cut in surgery (you have to relearn to walk) but the muscles that balance and control the primary motor muscles shut down and atrophy ,due initially to the leg brace and secondly due to the time it takes to rehabilitate. The old adage of 'if you don't use it you lose it' is never more true.


A classic example is the PT  will work hard to build your glute muscle. But there are 3 glute muscles the Major is a prime motivator but the Minimumus and Medias control how the Major works and part of the glute complex integrates into the ITB which again influences your ability to control your gait. I am working now with an exercise physiologist who is helping me awaken dormant muscles and isolate and use others that I need to gain 110% control of my damaged limb and to ensure every other muscle does its job to enable the damaged limb to work cleanly.


I am constantly surprised by the EP who will say lets see if such and such muscle works. He will get me to do a simple exercise which I  often  fail to complete because the muscle simply does not work. The rehabilitation of the muscles usually only takes a few short hours and latter I find that the newly awakened muscle gives me more control for other integrated muscles. Under the direction of the EP I have lept ahead in my rehab as more and more of the whole of body chain gets switched on. As a bonus my fitness levels are insane and I am actually planning a return to competitive masters competition.


So my learning that would like to share has been that primary rehab is vital but if you want to ensure everything works and is not placing strain and wear on compensating muscles or joints then you need to plan long term secondary rehab that switches back on all the compromised muscles that have switched off or been damaged by the surgery. Think long term rather than short term!

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My Quad: Great advice. From my understanding I couldn't agree more. I'm trusting my OS right now in her recommendations for prone lifts and quad isos and the walk/hobbling. There's probably a fine line between not enough and too much and, intuitively, that seems like a moving target. Principally, my OS's mantra is NO active quad firing, although as I've said before, the prone knee lifts to brace limit seem active to me. I am constantly checking with her - she'll get an email this morning - and my PT (assuming I choose to go with this guy) will have to convince me that he knows what he's doing because you are right, this is a serious timeout and I don't want to sit in the corner any longer than I have too. Plus, in my case, there is likely to be another knee surgery within the year (other leg to correct a patellar subluxation problem). SO this is really transforming my life. I'm not going really trying to "get back" to anywhere. I was never a very good athlete, just a persistent one, lol. I have decided , though, that I will do everything possible to move my recovery along and that will include yoga, acupuncture, return to meditation practices that I've abandoned, weight loss... these used to be kind of empty New Year's -type resolutions, now I am, and have to be, committed to them. Anyway, your caution is appreciated.


Cyndiver: Man, making you feel bad is absolutely the last thing I wanted to do! I was just bemoaning my current circumstance. Very happy to hear that the pain has quit you. One of those little victories, eh?


Auscoach: Very interesting. I've been looking into Nueromuscular Stim - not TENS, this is different, and other topics relating to muscle memory, fast twitch vs slow twitch muscle. Sounds like one common problem is reawakening the fast twitch to help keep the quad from firing too slowly, which, in turn, can give recoverees that feeling of quad failure - not there yet, but I'm trying to prep for that now by learning more. Heard about somethig else called the Church Pew exercise which is also supposed to help without the need for the fancy "shock machines" lol. Last thoughts - anyone further along in recovery walking in sand? Also, sounds like water activity is essential, Thoughts? Hope you all have a great day. It's getting closer. Mel


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To address the issue that auscoach speaks of, I found that early on walking, running, stutter steps,  running sideways, running backwards, running 180 degrees and back, running 360 degrees and back in the pool and then graduating to the treadmill really helped make by healing leg feel normal because these activiities stimulated all the muscles in the leg.  Think football cornerback and all the different ways they have to move in order to be successful.  It's not just about walking forward.  Now, any effective stategies on addressing scar tissue would be appreciated.  Brian

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Had my staples taken out today (9 day's post-op).  My doc was pleased with how I was healing but you could see the muscles in my thigh were already shrinking.

During my exam he asked me to fire the Quad muscle in my injured leg. I was able to make it twitch and he was pleased with that.

With the knee immobilizer on he asked me to lift my leg up off the table. I was able to lift it about 4 inches and he was pleased with that as well. I asked him when

we would start rehab and he said not for another 41/2 weeks. So from reading most of the post in this forum, 6 weeks is the magic number. For now I'm stuck in this knee immobilizer

until my Quad tendon heals. I was told to keep doing the leg lifts and that should help with my rehab in the future.



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my quad 29


good advice.   it has been 3 weeks for me since surgery.  pt has me doing leg lifts, side stretches with rubber bands and quad squeezes holding for 5 seconds.   that 6 - 8 weeks is the base so to speak and then you can go from there.


curious???   where are you today?  i.e.  walking, elliptical, etc. to build the muscle?   does it feel different.   i may not go back to bball but will definitely jog.    they say jog at 5 months, bball at a year.   sounds right?


thanks for checking back on us newbies.



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i think the scar tissue thing has to be worked out once out of surgery.  my pt is 3 x's per week and they press on the scar with their thumbs.  sometimes not the best feeling in the world.  said they are breaking down the scar tissue.   he told me to rub as well as it cannot hurt the cause.   


sounds like you are well on your way.   I would wear it as a badge of honor.......

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I want to play ball again someday.  But I was told the sudden starting and stopping during the game is hard on the knee.  I have gotten stronger for sure.  The instability issues are getting better.  But there is a clear difference in the strength between my legs.  As a joke, I jogged about 8 steps in my living room the other day and I could clearly note the difference in my legs.  It would take me about half the basketball court to figure out my gait.  As I continue with the strength building, I think this will get better.  I had a friend who was involved in a car crash and he broke his leg just above his knee.  It was not the same injury as ours but he dealt with the same sort of muscle atrophy we are all seeing now.  He complained about this exact issue when he first came back to work.  I talked to him the other day and he said it is completely normal again-like it never happened.  So there is good reason to believe we will be back out there.  The night I injured my knee, the ER doctor told me to set my sights on six months before I could run and jump.  I said “are you serious?”  He said “Yes.  That’s if you’re lucky.  It will probably be a year before you play without discomfort.”  So I’m going to play.  Count on it.


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I think I did not do a very good job of answering your entire question.  Where am I now?  12 weeks out of surgery I can walk pretty much normal.  I can even move in a motivated way if I had to.  Jogging would be difficult as it takes a few steps just to get a rhythm of jogging on what is (in essence) two different legs.  I can do leg presses with light weight.  I don't think I will be doing true free weight squats for a while.  I still have some trouble with stairs (especially walking down stairs) but it is improving.  There is no real reason to think it won't come back.  One of the best exercises I have been exposed to is with the big plastic ball.  I place it against the small of my back and lean against the wall.  I can squat down, rolling the ball up my back as little or as far as is comfortable.  I concentrate on using the quads to stand back up to build the strength.  Obviously, I just started that exercise given I'm three months out.  Early on, I read about that exercise and thought when I got to the level of exercise, I would have come quite a ways.  So thats where I am.  I am slowly building up the muscle but only after allowing the tendon to heal. 


For all you guys out there, I swear there is life after this is healed.  I promise it will come.  I recall being just a few days or weeks out of surgery and not believing this would ever be right.  But it will get better.  Be patient in letting the tendon heal.  This tendon has to heal before you do anything.  And then when the time comes to do the rehab, hit it with all you have.  I leave therapy shaking and quivering.  I go to the gym now and do a lot of it on my own.  They are weird little exercises but I am on it.  Even guys who aren't really athletes need to get in the game on this one.  I go to the gym with a routine in my mind.  I move through the exercises and break a sweat and my goal is to exhaust my leg.  I leave the gym, drink a protien shake and I let it recover for a couple days.  Then, I do it again.  One thing I should mention is, I have never done any exercises that cause knee cap pain.  It is all quadriceps muscle building exercises.  If something hurts your knee cap, don't do it.  For me, that was leg extensions (sitting and raising weight with the lower half of my leg).  So once you do get to the rehabilitation part, plan on doing the hard work then.


Merry Christmas


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Thanks Jumpman.  My incision is doing well.  I'm working on getting rid of scar tissue which has formed above the knee cap.  When my leg is out straight there is a band of scar tissue around the top portion of my kneecap.  Probably work on it the same way as the incision?  Good luck with your recovery and Merry Christmas.  Brian

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Hey all:


Great news Cyndiver! Staples out, ONWARD, lol. Hopefully, mine come out next Wed. It feels like a step. Hired the PT yesterday after he convinced me that he really was a healer - not only by what he said, but also what he did during examination as he observed and corrected my quad iso exercises,  He also changed my home workout routine to try to speed healing ( more sets, fewer reps at one time, all through the day rather than doing half in the am and half in the pm as I was doing.). He also showed me where the quad muscle was that should be firing and I realized that I wasn't getting it to fire properly because I wasn't doing the exercise quite right. His watchwords stuck with me. "Don't think about where you were last year, just think about where you were last week." For me, right now, that's perfect. So big relief to find the right guy. I also realized that my job apart from doing exercises is to coordinate OS to PT to PA communication. Keep everybody in the loop. Example, I read my own surgical report (I advise doing this) and found out that the surgeon wanted me on two aspirin a day, one in  morning and one at  night. Important stuff for DVT prevention but it never got communicated to me. Fortunately I already do aspirin therapy, but that slip and some others, has made me more vigilant.


Myquad 29: Thanks for the update and the positive words. You're right, it feels like an awfully long road when curbs and steps look like instruments of the Devil, lol. Anyway, the reminder to let the tendon heal first before anything else, is stamped on my forehead! One of the things I really like about this forum, apart from the community feeling, is that there are people who are in different places along the road, sort of like guideposts. Very helpful. Cheers all, wishing you Happiest Holidays - one day closser!!! Mel

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thanks for the clarification.   sounds like you are doing well.  can't wait until i can do more.  i am working out with upper weights mainly.   doing the sock slide.   stiff as heck.  


curious your bouncing back well- how old are you.   i am 59 and was in good shape.   they said that is a factor in coming back sooner.   did a half marathon last summer.   i was thinking about it today.   i have the 13.1 on the back of the car- may have to take it off as motivation.  


could be worse.


happy holidays..... 

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Fellow Quad Rippers,


Just wanted to say Happy Holidays to you all and for all you newbies, hang in there and be patient.  I'm definitely coming out of the long tunnel.  20 weeks since my double complete ruptures and surgery and the really good news is that I'm ready to put on my cross country skis and go for a spin.  I have quads again, they feel good and sort of strong (lots of work left to do though) and no real problem other than needing better flexibility and some muscle endurance.  At PT this week I was on the slide board with elastic bands rigged up from the ceiling so I could simulate poling and I skated on the board for 20 min.  Now to do it on snow!  I've been going to spin class and this week went pretty hard for the first time.  Legs were tired, but all is good.  Walking perfectly normally and going down stairs is getting better and better and faster and faster.  I feel as though I could jog, but I haven't tried yet.  We'll see what the OS says next week. 


Good luck to everyone.....It can be done! 

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Nordicracer: Double?? Good grief. Just wondering how you got around the first six weeks. I only had one but it was on my '"good" leg (rt). My bad left knee likes to go out at inconvenient times, so in effect I too am dealing with two baddies. I do walk with a walker per OS's orders but I am also on my butt a lot scooching around including up and down stairs. Was this your fate as well? Any tips? Mel

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Mostly I just lurched around like Frankenstein.  I also had a wheelchair to sit in some of the time.  Fortunately I didn't really have to mess with stairs much.  I could grab the door frame to go to the dining room 1 step and into the family room 2 steps.  When I went outdoors I first used crutches as a safety, then my hiking poles later on.  No tips other than patience, its just plain a long haul, but better to think long term than short term.  Legs are really coming along well now and I'm back to walking faster than about 95% of the population.  Hang in there!

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I am 39.   I’m too you for all this trouble for sure.  I have played ball for as long as I can recall.  I have two brothers and a father (65) who still plays.  In the past ten years, I have become more of a weight lifter and I just play ball to spend time with my family.


I got a nice little laugh out of your comment about curbs and steps being of the devil.  I remember when I first started really putting effort into walking.  It has snowed recently here in Indy and I walked to my mailbox.  I got to the curb and it still had some ice in spots.  I just stood there and looked at it wondering how I could negotiate all of the problems.  The curb, the ice, the steep part of the driveway all seemed like insurmountable obstacles that separated me and my mailbox.  If you are wondering, I got the mail….   

Edited by myquad29 - 12/25/10 at 9:53am
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Hey myquad: Yeah I live in ice and snow too. Mostly because of probs with my left knee, I've come to hate winter sports, lol, actually winter period. I used to do a lttle XC and more snow shoeing or sometimes both, but the consequences of a slip and fall are horrendous for me, so I'm kind of a summer sea kayaker guy. Partly, I just don't really know how to fall anymore. I stiffen up trying to protect leftie, which overloads rightie and troubles ensue. It's finally convinced my that the left knee has got to be fixed even though it's another big surgery. I will probably do so after summer and get the rehab more or less done by this time next year. Need a good knee doc, though, cos this one, a TTT, probably with lat release is tricky (no pun intended). I resisted it for so long because of the recovery, but after dealing with this one, I got a feeling it will seem like a piece of cake! Anyway, the motivator here is that once I'm rehabbed from this, I can't slack at all on conditioning, both general and leg specific. I have to say that I'm already much happier with upper body and ab strength as I incorporate general fitness stuff into my leg routines as much as possible. That plus scooching up and down stairs is a real workout as I've said before. At some point I think I'm going to look very much like a gorilla - huge upper body and tiny legs. Oh well. Thanks for the response. I hope you won't mind if I tap your experience data banks on down the recovery road. Have a great holiday! One day closer. Mel.


Seasons greetings to the rest of you quaddies!

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13 weeks from injury and surgery. I wish I had stumbled across this forum awhile ago but, not too late to add my experience I guess. I'm a 68 year old male (the new 48) in good health. I fell down 2-3 stairs  (don't remember how many - I obviously wasn't paying attention) landing on both knees and my right shoulder. There was surprising little pain (my shoulder felt the worst) to the extent I thought my knees were just swollen a little and needed ice. I lay on my back for 10 minutes (people were present to get ice) and decided it was time to get up. When I went to roll over and push myself up I found I couldn't raise either leg. So,  I relented and had them call 911 and have the ambulance take me to the local ER. There was still little pain while I was in the ER but the doctor on duty diagnosed it almost immediately (I suppose the weird indentations about the patella we're a clue). When one of the ER doctors (who I knew personally) told me that in 22 years in the ER he had never seen both go at the same time I knew I was in a little trouble. Plus the fact they we're calling over other ER personal to take a look was even more concern. And I didn't know what the term "bilateral" meant in a medical sense - I do now  (why don't they just say "both legs"). The OS on call operated on me about 6 hours later - not too shabby.


I have lots of information to contribute (the worst is well behind me but, of course, still going through lots of rehab) but off to watch football for the afternoon in front of the wood stove while watching a big snowstorm outside. Doessn't get much better than that. Looking for the Patsies to crush the Bills. Back later. Good luck to all. 

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Welcome to the rarified world of doing the double!  I'm at 20 weeks post trashing both of my legs and I'm very happy to report that today I put on the classic xc skis for the first time after coaching and did a short ski on the flats.  Its nice to know that everything worked and I remembered how to ski.  Onward and upward!!!

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Nordicracer: Outstanding! Keep posting. It really helps! Mel

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