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Head Xenon xi 5.0 vs. iXRC300

post #1 of 13
Thread Starter 
Hi,

I've been deliberating between these two for quite a while. Basically these are the two models that the product adviser on Head's site gave me. Both are supposed to be for the same ski level, speed etc. Except that the XRC is all mountain and the Xenon is marked as multi-condition (I'm not sure what Head means by that). Does anyone have some hands on experience with these two? I'm leaning towards the XRC, not that I ski powder but the slopes are mostly badly groomed/broken down and I would like to have something that would perform better under these conditions.

Also I'm looking at the Xenon xi 7.0 vs. XRC 500, although these two might be just too advanced for me.

Thanks,
Nar
post #2 of 13
Read this thread, especially the bit on skis. Then give us your particulars.
IMHO, anything below the XRC500 should be rented until you have a few days under your belt, after which with any decent sort of training you should be past it.
http://forums.epicski.com/showthread.php?t=28745
post #3 of 13
Thread Starter 
Thanks for the point about xrc500, I'm not going to buy the 300 then. Does the same apply for the xenon 5.0?

I read the FAQ. Basically I wanted to understand how far each of these models goes beyond groomed slopes (for the XRC) and lesser groomed ones for the Xenon.

My skiing is intermediate, I would judge. My troubles mostly start with carving steeper slopes (badly groomed reds for example) and that's what I want to work on first place. With the rest I'm pretty comfortable.
post #4 of 13
The Xenon is about 30 percent lighter than the iXRC and has a slightly smaller turn radius. It's also a little wider so it handles powder and crud better while the iXRC handles the ice better.

The 5.0 and 300 are both pretty soft and chatter at higher speeds. If you jump up to the 7.0 and 500, you get a ski that is stiffer and less prone to vibration.

I tried all four skis and I went with the iXRC500s.
post #5 of 13
Thread Starter 
Thanks, I suppose the XRC does better on steeps and spoiled tracks?
post #6 of 13
If you are an intermediate skier and skiing reds and want more edge grip when carving steeps, maybe you should demo a supershape.
post #7 of 13
Thread Starter 
I might be wrong here, but isn't the supershape a kid's ski?
post #8 of 13
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Originally Posted by Narek View Post
I might be wrong here, but isn't the supershape a kid's ski?
No. The Supershape is Head's racing line.
post #9 of 13
You are probably thinking of the supershape "team".
As always, when a ski is good its name gets plastered on everything. There are a whole range of supershapes: Supershape, supershape speed, supershape Magnum, and the latest version is the supershape "chip". I"ve skied the regular old supershape, the supershape magnum and the supershape speed. I don't think the regular supershape would be too difficult for an intermediate, and would be surprised if the chip was that much harder to ski. Ignore the marketing hype; it's designed to flatter the ego of potential customers.
http://www.head.com/ski/products.php...=racing&id=901
post #10 of 13
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by Ghost View Post
You are probably thinking of the supershape "team".
As always, when a ski is good its name gets plastered on everything. There are a whole range of supershapes: Supershape, supershape speed, supershape Magnum, and the latest version is the supershape "chip". I"ve skied the regular old supershape, the supershape magnum and the supershape speed. I don't think the regular supershape would be too difficult for an intermediate, and would be surprised if the chip was that much harder to ski. Ignore the marketing hype; it's designed to flatter the ego of potential customers.
http://www.head.com/ski/products.php...=racing&id=901
Yes, that was actually what I found. Unfortunately demo'ing any model is not an option for me, and I would be very cautious about buying something that might be too professional for me.

One last point, any ideas about the XRC 800? From what I gather it's more of an off-piste ski and fits me less than the 500, but still I would love to hear a few words about that one. Thanks
post #11 of 13
I'm begining to sound like a broken record, but the truth is you would do well to spend twenty bucks to subscribe to Peter Keelty's reviews on realskiers.com (or expertskiers.com ; I can't tell the difference between these two sites both urls take me to my login page). I wouldn't call it an off-piste ski, just a 500 with a higher speed limit, better carving ability, and smaller turn shape.

Personally I think the 800 would be fine for a beginner or intermediate who isn't into skiing fast. If your an intermediate though I see no reason why you shouldn't just get the supershape chip, other than price, and as far as price goes if you factor in the price of a lift ticket and how much more fun your day will be with the ski it's a no-brainer; get the SS.
post #12 of 13
Thread Starter 
Ok, thanks, I'll keep on thinking a bit more, the price difference still makes me a bit cautious
post #13 of 13
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Originally Posted by Ghost View Post
I'm begining to sound like a broken record, but the truth is you would do well to spend twenty bucks to subscribe to Peter Keelty's reviews on realskiers.com (or expertskiers.com ; I can't tell the difference between these two sites both urls take me to my login page). I wouldn't call it an off-piste ski, just a 500 with a higher speed limit, better carving ability, and smaller turn shape.

Personally I think the 800 would be fine for a beginner or intermediate who isn't into skiing fast. If your an intermediate though I see no reason why you shouldn't just get the supershape chip, other than price, and as far as price goes if you factor in the price of a lift ticket and how much more fun your day will be with the ski it's a no-brainer; get the SS.
Just echoing pretty much everything Ghost says here. There's also the Chip XRC if you're looking at skis in the SS Chip class (and its a more forgiving ride than the XRC 1200 despite being nominally a higher numbered ski - 1400). The Supershape Magnum also gets rave reviews. realskiers.com is a great resource! Aaaargh, the choices - and this is just Head!

But if you're going to err on the side of cautiousness then I'd say go for the iXRC 800. You'll outgrow the 500 quickly and the 800 has a higher speed limit and holds a better edge.
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