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post #1 of 16
Thread Starter 
Since the snow season has started up just about everywhere, I would guess that most of us are keeping track of daily snowfalls in favored areas. I like to do that too, but I am new enough to skiing to think that I may not be looking in all the right places. I am listing below the places that I have come to believe are the powder dens here in North America. I sure would appreciate it if some of you guys that have specific information would comment on the accuracy of my list.

Central Rockies - Wolf Creek
Wasatch Range - Brighton
Tahoe - Kirkwood
Pacific Northwest - Mt. Baker
Tetons - Grand Targhee
Interior B.C. - Whitewater
Canadian Rockies - Sunshine Village
Northeast - Jay Peak
Eastern Canada - I have no idea!

Thanks in advance for you comments. [img]smile.gif[/img]
post #2 of 16
As far as the Wasatch in Utah, no place gets the snow that Alta does! Considered one of the best for powder anywhere. 172in. so far this season!
post #3 of 16
Hey Alta skier; my knowledge of Utah ski country is a bit limited, but as I understand, most of the areas are within less than an hour from each other. Is there really that much variance in snow cover and quality between hills?
post #4 of 16
Thread Starter 
Hi Alta and JR. Your concerns about the Wasatch areas are identical to those I had. I chose Brighton as the standard for two reasons. 1) They measure their snowfall in the parking BELOW the base lodge and still tally more than 500 inches a year. and 2) If the reason for all that snow is partly due to cloud compression and lift at the end of the canyon, it makes sense to me, that the larger canyon would funnel more snow clouds up against the canyon walls and potentially produce more snow in that canyon. Does that make sense to you too? :
post #5 of 16
<FONT COLOR="#800080" SIZE="1">[ December 03, 2001 05:27 PM: Message edited 1 time, by Sugar Snack ]</font>
post #6 of 16
I understand your reasoning, makes perfect sense to me, however, I do still believe that Alta gets the most snow of all resorts in the Wasatch (and most of the country). The name Alta and powder are almost synonyms. Not only does the canyon size come into play, but so does its angle to the Great Salt Lake, and a few other variables. My feeling is (although not scientific), the LCC acts very much like a funnel, concentrating the storms the end of the canyon. Last year was considered a low snow year in Utah, and Alta recorded 547" for the season. I'm not sure where they take their measurements from though, probably mid mountain. Little Cottonwood Canyon, where Alta and Snowbird are at, is generally thought of by the locals around here to have the most snow, followed by Big Cottonwood Canyon (Solitude and Brighton) and finially the Park City areas (The Canyons, Park City and Deer Valley). The resorts are only a few miles apart (as the crow flies), but there is significant difference in snow levels. Where Park City might get 300" in a season, Alta will get 500", and Alta has registered seasons in the high 600's! If you need more proof, pick up any ski magazine and look where the powder pics are taken. I am biased though, I have an Alta/Snowbird Pass and skied knee to waist deep pow off the Supreme lift at Alta yesterday.
post #7 of 16
Avalanche Warning Web Site and OTHER cool sutff

Hey if THEY are worried about Avalanche It has GOT to be GOOD SKIING!

<FONT COLOR="#800080" SIZE="1">[ December 03, 2001 01:22 PM: Message edited 1 time, by Dr.GO ]</font>
post #8 of 16
Sugar Snack,
Just to set the record straight. The Park City Area Gets the same light fluffy snow that Alta, Brighton Snow bird and Solitude get.Park City is only about 3 miles from Brighton.But it takes 45 mins to drive there since they keep the road closed in the winter between Park City and Brighton.We do get less snow on the average due to the fact that 10,000 foot mountains tend to keep the snow fall on that side of the Wasatch.I will have to agree with Altaskier That Alta gets the most snow in a year.I am not sure but Powder Mountain might just rival Alta in snow depth?No matter what it's all good.
Now if they would just get that interconnect worked out I could ride a lift or two and ski over to Alta.Could you imagine that one pass to access about 17'000 acers of skiing :

<FONT COLOR="#800080" SIZE="1">[ December 03, 2001 04:46 PM: Message edited 1 time, by Utah49 ]</font>
post #9 of 16
<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Sugar Snack:

YES! The front side of the Wasatch gets all the goods (Alta, Snowbird, Brighton). While the backside gets half the snowfall and it's often wet and icy (Park City, Deer Valley)

I have been living working here in the Park City area for 14 years, but i have yet to see how we can get wet and icy snow?
Granted we don't get the same amounts as Alta, but it's the same quality. light and dry.
I would be willing to show Sugar Shack, around DV/PC and show that the snow isn't wet and icy. Unless your skiing at lower levels, in the spring time.
post #10 of 16
Okay I give, my knowledge of Park City comes from my friend who is a life long SLC resident (she skis LCC) and what I've read.

Deleting offending message now............

<FONT COLOR="#800080" SIZE="1">[ December 03, 2001 05:42 PM: Message edited 1 time, by Sugar Snack ]</font>
post #11 of 16
Park City,the Canyons and Deer Vally, on the eastside of the Wasatch front don't get as much snow but it's the same champaign powder.
Each resort has a definate character;Brighton is a scruffy place full of borders and locals in skotchguarded jeans. They used to have night skiing at $20 for 4. Solitude is a real family hill with lots of kids and moms; also very local but they have a dynamite new base village that is really elegent. I heard it's done by the same people that built Beaver Creek only it's small and intimate. Snowbird is a knarley, brawny place that attracts "A" types for all that vertical you can get from the tram. Has a big beautiful blue cruiser area in the Gad Vally. Mineral Basin is friggin awesome. I was there in May and it was totally National Geographic; big nature, off the scale.
Alta is, of course, Mecca.
Park City is the ultimate cruiser; My favorate for groomers on blubird days when it hasn't snowed in a while.. and Jupiter Bowl is like a miniture Alta.
Deer Vally is well, the ritz ; you gotta love the ski valets who take your skis off your car and rack 'em for you. The locals claim it's the best on powder days as most of the guests stay inside when it snows and profile around in their Bogners.Best food, best childcare, most movie stars.
The Canyons; I'll get back to you on that when they pave the parking lot. That's the travelogue on Salt Lake City..
P.S. the best powder of all is roumered to be up at Snowbasin, in Ogden.
post #12 of 16

Sounds gut!
post #13 of 16
Nope, Sunshine Village doesn't get any snow. The new gondola is slow, and despite what you've heard Nakiska is way better
post #14 of 16
OK, RUBOB & TR@DV you both did pretty good on your descriptions of Utah snow coverage. The reason that PCMR, DV & The Canyons, get less snow and heavier snow then LCC & BCC is this. I just sat through a class with a man that works for the Forest Service. He works with Avalanche control some how. He told us that as the storms leave the Pacific and move across the Nevada basin, the Wasatch front is the first major obstruction in their past. The storms pick up lots of warm air across the Nevada deserts. He said the two things you need for snow is cold air and lift. The Wasatch provides that. As the air mass rises over the Wasatch, it is cooled rapidly and it is milked of it's moisture. The majority is milked out on the front side. Then the remainer is milked out on the Lee side of the Wasatch. Which is the Park City side. This guy told us that because there is less lift and less mositure on the Lee side, there is heavier wetter snow. This snow is not as heavy as Pacific snow, but heavier then LCC snow. That is the reason for the difference. He also said that because of the position of LCC compared to BCC, LCC get more snow. LCC pulls the storms straight up the canyon. But BCC is curved and pulls the storm up the canyon. But it has to go around the curve of the canyon so it loose a little of the intensity.

This is all second hand, so I hope I said it all correctly. It was a very interesting class, and answered questions I've had for years.

The point is as stated on our licence plates, Utah has the Greatest Snow on Earth.
Enough Said.
post #15 of 16
Thread Starter 
Thanks for all the comments on Utah conditions and snow. There are a lot of things that didn't seem to add up before, but the input of you guys seems to have cleared a lot of that up. Hope all you powder-pigs don't get lost in what appears to be turning into Endless,... Bottomless,... POWDER!!!
post #16 of 16
Thanks for the information.
15 days and it hasn't stopped snowing in Park City
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