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Vertigo Motions this year... next year?

post #1 of 10
Thread Starter 
Hi all,

As you may have read in this thread, I'm going to ski my mutant 01/02/03 Vertigo Motions for the rest of this season, then demote them to rock ski duty next season. Hence, I'm on the prowl for next year's sleds.

The Background
<blockquote>I've had the above mentioned Vertigo Motions (184cm), and previous to that a pair of Volkl Vertigo G30's (188cm) which I also very much enjoyed. These are the only two "shape" skis I've ever ridden.

I'm 6'4"/240lb and ski about 60-70 days per year, primarily on Whistler/Blackcomb and Cypress.

As for terrain I regularly ski the whole mountain aside from the parks and "extreme" steeps/bumps.

Style? Above average speed/aggressiveness and tend to push a lot of snow around with my turns on heavy feet. Hence, I probably rely too little on the ski's ability and try to muscle through everything.</blockquote>
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The Research
<blockquote>According the Mamboo.ru's translated description of the 724 Vertigo Motion:
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7 24 Motion .Old familiar with the new name?complete analog Vertigo Motion, only skol'zyachka to potolshche and edgings to poshire.
Not too sure what to make of the second sentence, but the first alludes to the idea that this is the same ski as the 02/03, correct? </blockquote>
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Volkl's are definitely my favorite brand, so based on that ya figure the Vertigo Motion is the way to go, or maybe the Vertigo Motion Pro? Or perhaps something else?

Thanks!

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post #2 of 10
Quote:
Originally posted by coastalbc:


Style? Above average speed/aggressiveness and tend to push a lot of snow around with my turns on heavy feet. Hence, I probably rely too little on the ski's ability and try to muscle through everything.
If you're overpowering the ski, as I would think you would with your size and that ski, try the 188cm G4 or next year's AX4 which replaces it. Kickass ski, rails on groomers, busts crud (which is pretty good to be able to do at W/B), floats okay, basically tears up bowls. Very popular ski on this board.
post #3 of 10
I demoed the 7 24 AX3 a month ago. I was told by the rep that it was the same ski as the '03 Vertigo Motion/G3 with new graphics and name. Of course, there seems to be disagreement as to if the Motion and G3 were the same ski. But its sounding like Volkl just renamed the Vertigo's as the 7 24.

I skied the AX3 in 170 (I'm 5'9", 160lb, advanced skier). Mostly on ice. It had a very smooth ride which made me feel a little detached from the snow. Edge grip was very good, although not as good as some others I demoed. Rebound was on the low side, I had to work in short turns.

No chance to try in crud, powder, bumps (not that I can ski them well anyway).

gk
post #4 of 10
coastalbc,

AH, another Volkl man, me too, yes the AX3 is the same as the Vertigo motion. It also felt the same as 02' G3, and yes I have been told it is only a graphic's change, why mess with a goood thing.

I would recomend that you try a G4 in 188cm you may like it, and should be able to find some cheap. If you have a hard time finding some in BC call, Northern Ski Works in VT, I'm sure they have a pair, I'm sure they would ship them. 802 228 3344 ask for Shon, Tommy, or Randy, tell them Byron give you there name.

[ April 03, 2003, 08:58 AM: Message edited by: smithby ]
post #5 of 10
Thread Starter 
Thanks for the replies guys!

The G4/AX4 sounds tempting to at least try, but I'm under the impression it's a fair bit wider underfoot than my Vertigo Motions. I very much appreciate the quick edge to edge response I get with my Motions, ya think I'll still get this on the AX4? Perhaps I'm asking for too much out of one ski.

I'm a bit confused about Volkl's new naming convention. : If next year's 7.24 AX3 is the same as my existing ski, then what's the 0304 7.24 Motion? I was assuming next year's Motion to be the replacement of the Vertigo Motion of this year, but it sounds like that's not the case.

Volkl's really opened up distribution in my region in recent years so availability is no longer a problem. But thanks for the offer smithby. [img]smile.gif[/img]
post #6 of 10
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Originally posted by coastalbc:
Thanks for the replies guys!

The G4/AX4 sounds tempting to at least try, but I'm under the impression it's a fair bit wider underfoot than my Vertigo Motions. I very much appreciate the quick edge to edge response I get with my Motions, ya think I'll still get this on the AX4? Perhaps I'm asking for too much out of one ski.

I'm a bit confused about Volkl's new naming convention. : If next year's 7.24 AX3 is the same as my existing ski, then what's the 0304 7.24 Motion? I was assuming next year's Motion to be the replacement of the Vertigo Motion of this year, but it sounds like that's not the case.

Volkl's really opened up distribution in my region in recent years so availability is no longer a problem. But thanks for the offer smithby. [img]smile.gif[/img]
coastalbc,

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  • No, the G4/AX4's will not be as quick edge-to-edge. But, I think you'll be pleasantly surprised by their versatility and their quickness.</font>
  • Volkl, by the way, wanted to use 24/7 - a contemporary reference to "round-the-clock" - rather than 7/24, but 24/7 was already taken by Dynamic, I believe. The 7/24 Motion is next year's Vertigo Motion; so, yes it is the case.</font>
  • Based on your size; I, too, would suggest the longer - 184 or maybe even the 191 - G3/AX3 or the 188 G4/AX4.</font>
  • Would it come as a surprise if I told you I have some 188 G4's and a 191 Vertigo Motion available? If it does, it shouldn't.</font>
$400 U.S. for a new pair of 188 G4's, shipping not included.
$500 U.S. for a new pair of 191 Vertigo Motion's - ski & binding, of course - shipping not included.
Let me know if you have any other questions.

IG
post #7 of 10
coastalbc, It appears that Volkl figured out early on that some people like there ski's but not Marker bindings. That could be the reason you can buy some of there ski with the Marker Motion system.

Yesterday I skied a buddys K2 Mach S with the Marker Piston. With the piston turned on, the ski felt stiff and quick with it turned off it ski felt light and softer. I also skied his old pair of Mach S's with the Marker SC binding, that ski felt light and quick all the time.

Maybe that will help a little, you may need to demo more. Luckily, Okemo has some of the MFG's in a couple of times a season with free demo's. Maybe some of your friends have the same sole lenght as you, I have about five friends with the same lenght sole so it's even easier.
post #8 of 10
Thread Starter 
Thanks again for all the info and opinions guys!

Volkl had a demo tent up Whistler this weekend and finally got to take a couple of the new boards out for a rip. Verdict? Vertigo Motion Pro, no question. Basically offers me everything I like in the VM, but just a notch above in all departments.

I skied the Motion AX4 as well, but found it a touch stiff in the tail and not as quick edge to edge as I found on neither my Motions nor the Pro. Great cruiser, but not quite my style. Probably should have mentioned in my intro that I'm more into shorter radius carves than cruise.

Thanks to all for the comments, I'm set for 03/04 [img]graemlins/thumbsup.gif[/img]
post #9 of 10
here is a link with a bit more info on the 2004 Volkl lineup.

coastalbc - are you involved with Volvo? Just wondering why your pic is hosted by a Volvo website?
post #10 of 10
Thread Starter 
Great link kiwi, thanks for that [img]smile.gif[/img]

And regarding the photo's host, I'm a web developer and one of my personal hobby sites is http://www.volvoxc.com, an enthusiast community for owners of the Volvo Cross Country. [img]smile.gif[/img]
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