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post #61 of 79
Heluva, we did it in front of Yoedler Lodge while you and Rick were setting up your 204's.

No time for rehersals just a few words on my thoughts about the skis. The charm was all for TC though.
post #62 of 79
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BTW - Trekchick. Stop picking on my friends Lars and Phil. If you're meesing with them you're messing with me, and we know that little experiment will only end in tears.



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No time for rehersals just a few words on my thoughts about the skis. The charm was all for TC though.
See where you rank Greg?
post #63 of 79
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See where you rank Greg?
Well, if Lars was trying to charm me with an internet video I think I would be a little scared. :

post #64 of 79
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Well, if Lars was trying to charm me with an internet video I think I would be a little scared. :

Heluvagirl maybe, but not Greg:
post #65 of 79
Well, I'm back in Colorado now. What a super time I had at the Holimont/Holiday event, putting faces and personalities to names I've been conversing with for a few years now. I enjoyed very much finally meeting and skiing with each one of you. Thanks so much, Lars, for organizing this get together and providing me the opportunity to form these new friendships. And please know, my new friendship with you is one I place high value on. I'm greatly impressed with the person I found you to be, and look forward to our next opportunity share a slope and chat.

And I must put this out there: what a well skilled group of skiers attended this gathering. As lars said, the skiing really was full throttle, and the group was very well matched in ability to ski that way. Pierre took quite a header that was prompted by a mid turn knoll-launch while high speed rippin on a good pitch in flat light. I can testify that the golf cart characterizations of PSIA instructors does not apply to Pierre. He very much enjoys pushing the performance envelope, yet can be silky smooth in the bumps.

For those of you not aware, Greg's Kathleen (heluvagirl) is very new to the sport, but her skill development is quite obviously on a fast track. As much high speed cruisin as we were doing, she was hot on our tails. I even got to sneak of peak of her and Greg working on some skills later on, and got to see her laying down some nice arcs. Gregs done a nice job as her personal coach. Kathleen, it was great to finally meet you. You're screen name is well chosen. You're a real sweetheart, and Greg's a lucky dog. Look forward to skiing with you again out in Colorado in March.

Phil, not sure if you know, but I almost suffered your same fate. Last run of the day I came speed arcing down that same slope heading for the lodge and suddenly in the super flat light found my knees jack hammering into my chest from a bump field I could not see and had no clue was coming. When I stopped by the lodge I was telling Heluva about it when we looked up to see another poor soul fall victim to them. Greg had to hike up and help the hurting fella make it down on foot with what was an obvious broken wrist. If it's any consolation, you were one of many who got blind sided by those bumps.

I wish I could have had more time to ski with each of you on Friday. Western New York was my old stompin ground, and it seemed every time I turned around I was stumbling into old students, fellow coaches, and friends. It sidetracked me a few times. Still, the time I did have was great, and as I said, kudos to Lars for making it possible.

Saturday at Holiday Valley was a real hoot. Heluva started out the day by breaking out his SG's, and we had a ball laying off the edge angles and taking it down the falline so we could keep pace. And what about Lars and Bumpfreak? They were right there with us letting em run. Two very solid skiers in those two, and a pleasure to make turns with. It made for a fun day of straightening out Holiday Valley, and Lars, thanks for showing me parts of HV I didn't even know existed. Twenty years of going there for races, and spending the day on the same slope, and I never really got to ski the whole area.

Thanks to all for a great weekend. Looking forward to sharing a trail again somewhere down the road.
post #66 of 79
Glad you made it home ok Rick, and very humbled by the kind words.

We'll do it again.
post #67 of 79
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Phil, not sure if you know, but I almost suffered your same fate. Last run of the day I came speed arcing down that same slope heading for the lodge and suddenly in the super flat light found my knees jack hammering into my chest from a bump field I could not see and had no clue was coming. When I stopped by the lodge I was telling Heluva about it when we looked up to see another poor soul fall victim to them. Greg had to hike up and help the hurting fella make it down on foot with what was an obvious broken wrist. If it's any consolation, you were one of many who got blind sided by those bumps.
You did mention it. I didn't even have time to react. All I remember happening ws skis stopping and me flying in the air and tumbling.
post #68 of 79
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You did mention it. I didn't even have time to react. All I remember happening ws skis stopping and me flying in the air and tumbling.
I don't know if any of you noticed, but I only skied through there one time all day and that was in full sunlight just before lunch. The rest of the day - I avoided that narrow section of trail as much as Rick usually avoids slalom turns.

Not only is that area of trail narrow and poorly lit (even in good sun it is dark because of all the pines), those bumps are NASTY. They are made by the grooming machine somehow and usually involve death cookies, ice, and generally unskiable snow. Not fun - unless you're name is Pierre.

Later

Greg
post #69 of 79
Well ya!!!!!!

Boy did we luck out with weather. What a difference a week makes. We've had an inch of rain or more the past day or so. This could have been disaster for the gathering if it was this week.

Reflections on that run, the only time those bumps are good is in the spring. For one thing they're not steep enough to carry consistant speed to form decent sized even spaced moguls and they always ski like crap. They put them there in that spot for the advantage of lodge gapers.

It claims many victims in flat light. I'm glad I was already having a cold one by then.
post #70 of 79
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I don't know if any of you noticed, but I only skied through there one time all day and that was in full sunlight just before lunch. The rest of the day - I avoided that narrow section of trail as much as Rick usually avoids slalom turns.

Not only is that area of trail narrow and poorly lit (even in good sun it is dark because of all the pines), those bumps are NASTY. They are made by the grooming machine somehow and usually involve death cookies, ice, and generally unskiable snow. Not fun - unless you're name is Pierre.

Later

Greg
I know those moguls. It's a god-awful treacherous mine field. Can't see it until you are right on top of it, and it's right in front of the club house. Many unsuspecting souls, including myself, have had spectacular yard-sales there.

The only other time I almost killed myself at Holimont was on Greer. It was a powder day, but I was not aware that there were huge moguls on Greer under that nice, pristine 6" of fresh on the headwall. Of course, all the Holimont locals had a good laugh over that one.

At first I was really bummed that I didn't get to hook up with you guys, at Holimont nor at Holiday Valley. I was on the verge of calling in sick at work on Friday to join you at Holimont. Now I am kinda glad. Looks like the Epic platoon took some heavy casualties at Holimont.
post #71 of 79
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Well ya!!!!!!

Boy did we luck out with weather. What a difference a week makes. We've had an inch of rain or more the past day or so. This could have been disaster for the gathering if it was this week.

Reflections on that run, the only time those bumps are good is in the spring. For one thing they're not steep enough to carry consistant speed to form decent sized even spaced moguls and they always ski like crap. They put them there in that spot for the advantage of lodge gapers.

It claims many victims in flat light. I'm glad I was already having a cold one by then.
Yeah, what a difference a week makes. HV last evening was awful. And this weekend might not be better, unless this rain turns to snow really quickly.

Oh yeah... those Holimont bumps at the bottom.... see my other post. It is the strangest place to put a bunch of bumps with no pitch that are mostly unenjoyable except for the likes of Pierre.
post #72 of 79
It got to be 45* and rain here in Northern Michigan. I arrived home from my Colorado Trip on Tuesday with those temps and precip, and bare ground showing everywhere.
By Wednesday morning at 3 AM I was snowblowing 6 inches of snow, from my commercial plow account sidewalks, with full face mask on and -2* 55mph winds.

What we see here arrives in your back yard in a day or two.
Get Ready!
post #73 of 79

I was checking out the Holiday Valley site when I happened upon this.

 

Brings up a fact that Contractor's Day is this Friday and although it has been going on for over 20 years now, restrictions have been put on system abusers, such as myself, who used to sign in about 15 guests and clients for an awesome day of free skiing and food/drinks etc.beercheer.gif

 

It also brings to mind all the fun we had that day and the awesome cast of Epic Ski regulars. Perhaps the greatest day of friends gathering this side of the Mississippi. Anyhow, it was special for me finally meeting and skiing  with the likes of Bumpfreaq, Phil Pugliese, Rick Fastman, Heluvaskier, Pierre eh, and a bunch of other really good skiers and people.

 

By God, time flies doesn't it? That was 5 years ago. Hard to believe.

 

Wherever you all are now, I wish we could do it again soon. I miss you all!!!

 

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post #74 of 79

Lars, anytime you want to ski with Kathleen and I at Holimont, just say the word. If you don't still have my cell#, shoot me a PM. We are members now and ski there every weekend. Hope all is well with you and your family.

Cheers.
 

post #75 of 79

Great to hear from you Greg and that you are still with Kathleen. Love to ski with you guys sometime.

 

PM sent.

post #76 of 79

Lars, this was a fun blast from the past!  That was the first gathering I ever went to.  A quick count tells me I may get to my tenth this year (probably forgetting a few)..... and I've been to half that many that were associated with other ski forums.  Yet, this WNY meet up has never been surpassed.  Really good times!

 

 

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Kathleen and I....

 

Cheers.
 

HS, reading through this thread I was sorry to see that Kathleen only has two posts to her name.  Glad to hear that she still hangs out with your lucky self =)

 

 

Oh and Lars, five seasons have come and gone since this thread was started and we have yet to ski together again.  Looks, though, like we'll both be in CO in a week or two.  I've heard better reports from the Jane than I have from Breck.  Just sayin'.

post #77 of 79

I had a great time too! I made a couple a year or two later A Basin and Loveland where I met up with BF/Chris and met Trekchick and a bunch of others. Would like to see another WNY gathering.

 

We'll be in Ellicottville this weekend for the NY Masters races-GS at Holimont on Saturday and SL at HV on Sunday. Given the cold temps, we should have good snow.

post #78 of 79

I was hoping to get up Thursday- Friday of this week with the long awaited great conditions but things didn't work out. Have customers in town and having dinner with them Thursday night. Were even going to have the best conditions of the season so far FrIday through the weekend here (Seven Springs) it looks like!

Long range shows some milder air early next week with some rain . Always a roller coaster.

 

Have a friend out in Vail skiing now and they haven't had any new snow since the 5-6 in. they got when I was there now 2 weeks ago. So, you need to ski it when its good because its always ever changing. Just doesn't seem like it used to be like that. I mean typically January weather was sustained cold and snowy.

 

Played golf last Sat. here in SW Pa.! That just shouldn't be. However it did go from about 50 F temps Sat. down to about 6 F this AM.

post #79 of 79

We've been getting hammered with snow here. Nearly 3 feet of snow in my yard since Monday. Problem is Holiday Valley and Holimont have only gotten about 6". The Lake Effect snows just haven't drifted that way this time. But, temps in single digets all week they have been cranking out man-made. Better than nothing I guess.

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