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post #1 of 19
Thread Starter 
Plain and simple, I'm looking for one ski to handle most conditions. I currently have a pair of Volant PowerKarves and they've done the job pretty well. I'm 39, 5'10", and about 200 lbs. Advanced to Expert ability, though I'm in horrible shape right now. I do 99% of my skiing in Oregon and enjoy off-piste skiing as much as I do big cruiser runs.

Skis I'm looking at include:

Elan m 888
Elan Magfire 14 (Magma)
Head Monster i88
Volkl AC40

I know the 888 and Monster i88 are similiar, whereas the Magfire and AC40 are closer together. I can get a pretty good deal on either Elan.

I should mention that I have very little time or opportunity to demo any of these. Are there other suggestions in addition to these?

Thanks!
post #2 of 19
The AC40 is the hands down favorite for most people. If you can find them in your size buy them. If your as good as you say try them in 170cm. I'm 53y/o 5'11" 190lbs and ski the AC4 in 170cm and love it. If your not buy them in 177cm. Though I think your better off with the 170cm and take a lesson or two with them. If you stand up when you ski the 170cm will perform well for you.

The Elans I felt were like skiing boards. Just didn't do it for me.
post #3 of 19
Do a search for Nordica Afterburners.
post #4 of 19
Thread Starter 
Thanks. I should mention a few others that I forgot about when I posted this.

K2 Apache Recon
Atomic Nomad Crimson
Fischer Watea 84

Basically I have to make a decision between the 2 types of skis. Then I will decide on the ski itself.

The 82 waists and below I'm putting in one category and the 84 and above I'm putting in the other. My Volants do pretty well on the hardpack, so great hardpack performance is not a must. It would be nice to have a versatile ski, though, so I won't need a 2nd pair if I go out of state to ski (for example).
post #5 of 19
If you like heavy damp skis the im88s should work for you.
post #6 of 19
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Originally Posted by tromano View Post
If you like heavy damp skis the im88s should work for you.
i can't agree that the i.m88 w/Mojo 15 is heavy???:
post #7 of 19
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Originally Posted by mikdes26 View Post
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The 82 waists and below I'm putting in one category and the 84 and above I'm putting in the other. My Volants do pretty well on the hardpack, so great hardpack performance is not a must.................
It is a common mistake to categorize too closely by waist width. Ski personalities are all over the map and it is less about the waist width than the amount of shape, stiffness, dampening, and the complex cocktail that gives a ski it's "feel".

As an example, despite the disparate widths, the AC-40 and iM 88 are more similar to one another in general character than the Watea 84 which falls in between them in width.

Light, nimble, quick, less grippy but more forgiving...........................
  • Fischer Watea 84
  • Solly Fury
  • Atomic Snoop
  • Volkl Bridge
Light, nimble, quick, grippy but less forgiving...........
  • Atomic Crimson
More power, more damp, less nimble..................
  • Volkl AC-40
  • Head iM 88
  • Nordie AB
  • Mythic Rider
These rough groupings are not about width at all they are about "ski feel"

SJ
post #8 of 19
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Originally Posted by Atomicman View Post
i can't agree that the i.m88 w/Mojo 15 is heavy???:
I think the IM88 skis like a heavier ski very stable with a damp stable feel. I don't know how much a pair actually weighs but they ski heavy, which is IMO a pretty nice characteristic.
post #9 of 19
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Originally Posted by tromano View Post
I don't know how much a pair actually weighs but they ski heavy, which is IMO a pretty nice characteristic.
Wow, here's the reason we all say you need to demo. I don't like a ski that feels heavy when I ski it. My AC4's feel light and nimble and handle crud well.

Demo, Demo, Demo.
post #10 of 19
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Originally Posted by Max Capacity View Post
Wow, here's the reason we all say you need to demo. I don't like a ski that feels heavy when I ski it. My AC4's feel light and nimble and handle crud well.

Demo, Demo, Demo.
The im88 don't feel heavy, damp and stable is more how I would describe it. What I meant to say was if a person liked heavy damp skis (like volants) then they would probably appreciate the heads feel, IMO.

Just something I noticed in your post. Light and nimble and handles crud well. Those things don't typically go together. Often with 1ski quiver you have to make choices like that where a ski is still pretty good in crud in spite of being lighter and more nimble etc...
post #11 of 19
I love my Apache Recons. They are a little heavy, but very responsive and can really rip through crud. Not bad in powder, and corduroy is a blast with them as well. Highly reccomended, but make sure to get the Piston binding with them if you do.
post #12 of 19
my vote is for the dynastar 8000. i have skied it for about 3 years and just bought the most current version.

me: 195 lbs
level 8
ski: family kids friends and get to go in the back 50%. 10 to 20 ski days so never know if will get new snow on my trips of 2 wk old snow. given these circumstances great ski.
post #13 of 19

Don't mess around

You appear to be the same size and level as me.

The hands down best all mountain ski IS

THE 186 Dynastar Legend Pro Rider.

Want something a bit tamer?

179 or 183 PM Gear BRO MODEL

There are some other good skis out there but those who know compare them the the LP and they all fall a bit short.
post #14 of 19
I am about your size and also skied the PK for many years. The first ski that comes to mind for you is the 888. You will have some of the characteristics of the PK, but much wider. Being where you are, I wouldn't go below the 85 waist range. The Mag 14 or AC40 are vastly different.
post #15 of 19
As far as the AC40's go the preferred length is all over the lot given people of similar weight and ability. I like the 184's best, my brother who is the same size and ability likes the 177's, MAX from prior post likes the 170's and I know a few instructors who also like the 170's best....go figure?
If I was skiing in Oregon with all that snow and a lot of it not the lightest I would tend to go longer...
post #16 of 19
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by Treewell View Post
AIf I was skiing in Oregon with all that snow and a lot of it not the lightest I would tend to go longer...
That's what I'm thinking on the 888. At first I was thinking 176, but people say it skis short and the Elan "ski selector" recommends the 184.

If I opt for the Magfire 14 I'll likely go with the 176. I'm going to see about trying each out first.

Question for Philpug ... is the 888 really that similar to the PK?
post #17 of 19
nordica.

tanks on speedskates.

buy a pair, learn to ski them.
post #18 of 19
Hi,

I have a similar question regarding buying/bringing one ski for a trip to Taos in March. I skied with some of you in Stowe in December with Dan Egan's class (and as it turns out was skiing most of the day with a cracked tibia at the knee and partially torn MCL after I fell on the fourth run). During the class there was some suggestions that I should have longer skis with more surface.

I currently own K2 Burning Luv at 154 and am thinking about the K2 Lotta Luv at 160 length.

Are there any suggestions as to what I might want to Demo before I buy this next pair.
post #19 of 19
i think someone suggested the Apache recons - i skied them last week at Vail and they are a very good allrounder - but i find they are very damp and have no pop or spring - a bit lifeless

saying that they are a very capable ski , just wouldn;t be my everyday choice
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