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First Pair of Skis

post #1 of 16
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Hey guys, as you can tell from the title im am looking to purchase my first pair of skis. I am 18 years old, a little under 5'8" and weight 135lbs. Im also a distance runner so my legs are very well developed, and im not sure if upper body strength has a big impact on skiing but i am very strong for my size. Before this season the last time i skied was back in 6th grade when i went on vacation to Steamboat Springs with my family. By the end of the trip i was skiing several of their double black diamonds and black diamonds. This winter so far i went skiing 3 times and absolutely loved it, along with loving it i seemed to pick it up extremely fast and it only took me a couple runs to get back to skiing black diamonds. The 3 times i went was at Camelback Ski Resort and have been able to ski every trail fairly easily and also began to venture into the terrain park the last time i went with my friend whos a snow boarderd. I think this must count for something, so far this season i have only fell once, and that was in the terrain park when i overshot the landing lol.
Now to the skis, i have skied on dynastars (not sure which model), and the fischer big stix which i thought were decent. The sizes were 154 in the dynastars and 155 in the big stix. I like the controll on the shorter skies because i am more of carver, and they seemed to work real well in the moguls. Not trying any other skies, im not sure whether i could get away with anything longer. Also, the last time i went i really started to enjoy the terrain park and was wondering if i should look at more of an all mountain ski, or park ski? If it is possible i would like to get a twin tip ski, but ive heard they are mostly on park skis. What ski, or skies do you think would suite me best so i can possibly demo them the next time i ski?
Sorry for the long post, if i left any important information out just let me know and ill tell you. Thanks in advance!
post #2 of 16
Welcome to the site.

For your light weight you'll want to stay in the 155cm area. It sounds like you'll be happy with a all-mountain twin tip.

Check the web sites, ski magazine, skiing magazine and skipressworld.com they all have reviews on skis, check to 2006 issues, may be you can fine some slightly used skis in the for sale forum here.

When you get new skis and good boots from a good boot fitter then take a few lessons before you develop to many bad habits.
post #3 of 16
If you go with twintips try to get something in the 160's. Twins tend to feel shorter. And seeing that you live here in the East, look for something that has a 75-85mm waist, you dont want something wider around here, really no good use for it.
post #4 of 16
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Thanks for the help, do you know of any all mountain twin tips in particular? I think ive seen some Dynastar twin tip all mountain skies before, ill look into them.
post #5 of 16
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Originally Posted by mogul maniac View Post
Thanks for the help, do you know of any all mountain twin tips in particular? I think ive seen some Dynastar twin tip all mountain skies before, ill look into them.
You may want to look into the K2 public enemies. They come in a 164 & 169 which would probably be about right for you. Just a thought and hope it points you in the right direction.
post #6 of 16
To add to my previous post, you may want to look at the Volkl Karma, or the ski that replaced it called the Bridge.
post #7 of 16
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Thanks Grodent the k2 public enemies look like a real nice ski. What do you think about the volkl ledge? I was at a ski shop and started talking to the salesmen and he said they were real good skis for what i am looking for.
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Thanks Grodent the k2 public enemies look like a real nice ski. What do you think about the volkl ledge? I was at a ski shop and started talking to the salesmen and he said they were real good skis for what i am looking for.
Well the ledge is a ski that is quite soft compared to the Public Enemies and the Karma/Bridge. It is also a bit narrower. It is Volkl's price point park ski, so I think it was designed for more park than all mountain, but I have never skied it and don't know from experience what it's like all mountain.

So if you want a soft playful ski, then the ledge may be for you, but I would definitely look elsewhere for a true all mountain twin.
post #9 of 16
I have demoed the Karma and found them to be ok just didn't light my fire. They didn't seem to have the quickness of real all mountain ski.
I have a buddy that enjoys his PE's. He's my age.
post #10 of 16
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One of the things that i liked about the ledge was that it seemed to be the thinnest out of all the twintips that i was looking at which sounds like it would be better for skiing on the east coast. As for the ski being soft, what does that affect? Does it make the ski easier to turn on, meaning it needs less force to set the edges? That doesnt seem to terrible for me being i weight only 135. Let me know if im looking at it wrong here.
Also, what do you think about the k2 silencer? Same deal as the ledge?
post #11 of 16
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Originally Posted by mogul maniac View Post
One of the things that i liked about the ledge was that it seemed to be the thinnest out of all the twintips that i was looking at which sounds like it would be better for skiing on the east coast. As for the ski being soft, what does that affect? Does it make the ski easier to turn on, meaning it needs less force to set the edges? That doesnt seem to terrible for me being i weight only 135. Let me know if im looking at it wrong here.
Also, what do you think about the k2 silencer? Same deal as the ledge?
A soft ski will be more playful and forgiving. It won't take as much energy to ski but will usually also not be as stable at speed as a stiffer ski. As for the silencer, this is K2s park-specific ski, so it is not meant for all mountain.
post #12 of 16
Agree about the ski recs. But FWIW, I was a competitive runner, thought my legs automatically rocked for skiing. Until I tore up my knee, and my orthopedist said that all that muscular endurance never helped support my ligaments all that much. He was right; nowadays we know that conditioning isn't particularly transferable. Meaning that skiing requires conditioning that uses the right muscles with the right motions; think bicycles rather than running. You may know this already.
post #13 of 16
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Wow, i didnt know that but now that i think of it, it really seems to make sense. Good thing over the summer i was cycling about 100 miles a week in addition to my running, i never thought it would help my skiing lol! What events did you run by the way?

Anyway, today i went out to my local ski shop and bought my first pair of skis. After looking into more reviews and the great price, i went with the Volkl Ledges, i got them with Marker 11 freestyle bindings, Nordica Gran Sport Easy 8 boots, and Goode poles all for $875 at my local store. The skis came with the bindings for only $450! Along with this, i get a discount card for all lift tickets to hunter mountain, $100 gift certificate, and a free lift ticket to one of many mountains that they list. I am very glad with my choice and i cant wait to ski on them. Maybe ill post some pictures up of me on them when i go skiing next.
Thanks again!
-Mike
post #14 of 16
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Wow, i didnt know that but now that i think of it, it really seems to make sense. Good thing over the summer i was cycling about 100 miles a week in addition to my running, i never thought it would help my skiing lol! What events did you run by the way?

Anyway, today i went out to my local ski shop and bought my first pair of skis. After looking into more reviews and the great price, i went with the Volkl Ledges, i got them with Marker 11 freestyle bindings, Nordica Gran Sport Easy 8 boots, and Goode poles all for $875 at my local store. The skis came with the bindings for only $450! Along with this, i get a discount card for all lift tickets to hunter mountain, $100 gift certificate, and a free lift ticket to one of many mountains that they list. I am very glad with my choice and i cant wait to ski on them. Maybe ill post some pictures up of me on them when i go skiing next.
Thanks again!
-Mike
Congratulations. Definitely tell us what you think once you get a chance to ski them. Hope they work out for you.
post #15 of 16
Thread Starter 
Ok will do, im going back to college this weekend, but next saturday we are going out to liberty in PA so ill post after that.
post #16 of 16
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First Day on Ledges

Yesterday was my first day skiing on my Volkls, and the week leading up to skiing felt like the longest week of my life! At the mountain there was a wintry mix the day before, but the temperatures at night didnt drop below freezing for long so it wasnt very icy in the morning. We got there and i took a couple runs and once i got all warmed up and back into the groove of skiing i was having a blast. I went down every slope pretty easily and it just got better as the day went on. At about 12 in the after noon it was around 44 degrees and the snow was really beginning to soften up, this is where the ledges really shined. I was able to carve through this snow so easily and had no problem going from short and quick turns to longer ones down the mountain. I change up my turning every couple turns to see how the skis fair with different skiing styles and they were great in every one, also i got into the tuck on several occasions to see if i could get the skis to chatter and i simply couldnt. Then again, the mountain wasnt huge so on a steeper longer mountain i could get more speed to see how they fair then. I was practicing my switch skiing and felt very good and in control there aswell. Near the end of the day the slopes got a little icy, and even with tired legs i was able to hold an edge in these conditions very well and i am convinced that these skis will be great for anything the east will throw at me. In the terrain park i had no complaints either, im not sure if it was just in my head but i felt like i was landing a little bit easier then on other skis. I didnt hit up any rails but did a few boxes, just straight through them though because it was my first time riding them but by the end of the day i was throwing down some tricks coming off the boxes but couldnt muster up enough courage to try and land them switch yet . Another thing that im not sure was just in my head or not was that the skis just seemed to want to go fast. I would be skiing slowly next to my friend but had to really set my edges to keep at that speed and it just was so much more fun to go fast anyway.

Now for the 2 cons. The topsheet is not very durable and it looks decently used after the one day (like 4 days of use maybe). Also, im not sure how this happend, but i chipped one of the edges. Its not huge but its not really small either. I might have hit something in the slope to do it but there isnt a scratch in the bottom leading towards the chip which is really confusing. Could ice do something like that to skis? Also what can i do for it, will it affect my skiing greatly or only if i am really concerned about performance like racing or something? Ill try to get some pictures up of it so you can get an idea of what im talking about and what i can do.
Overall the ski was great and i loved skiing on it, i couldnt ask more of my first ski and it was just a fun ski. Thanks for all your help and I cant wait to get out on the slopes again!
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