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post #1 of 14
Thread Starter 
OK, here is the deal - I need to decide which one to buy ...
Yes, this will be my only skis, can efford only one pair, should make no mistakes. Above that, I can not demo - I am travelling for ski vacation soon and want to buy skis b.f. - not to spend time on renting/demoing.
Skiing mostly in Europe offpistes, powder, grooms too, avoid bumps.
I am 5'8, ~155lb. After ACL injury not as aggressive as I used to be. Not a speed freak anymore too.

Most important features (in order of importance):
1) Smooth ride in cut / difficult snow (absorb vibration etc.)
2) quick edge to edge
3) Hold on Ice
4) good powder performance

I am looking at the length in 174-179 range.
Can you give a mark to the skis according to the points above. If I missed some good ski, please feel free to add.

Thanks a bunch,
Paul
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Marks from 1 to 5 (5 is best)

mark 1 2 3 4
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im88
888
mission
mythic
outlaw
post #2 of 14
Of course I vote the mythic 172.
In my book it gets 5's except on ice which I would give a 4
post #3 of 14
I was suppose to demo the Mythic today, but left my ski pass in my other jacket...haven't skied any of these, but a ski buddy at Les Arcs also really likes the Mythic...he is about 6' 1'', 175 and a very good, reasonably agressive skier who spends most of his time off piste, but says his 178 Mythic is good everywhere...

Try also doing a search as I know that there are some older posts that compare at least a few of these skis including one by SierraJim (maybe Mythic and cerazy 8s or something like that).
post #4 of 14

more mids

Not to add to your choices too much but you should consider the Fischer Watea 84 or Atomic Nomad Crimson. Both would fall in your requirements.

I demo'd both and liked them both, but chose the Crimson because it had better edge grip. All else seemed equal for me.
post #5 of 14
I will add the Watea 94. IMHO the 84 needs a bit more float for a good pow performance (I've skied it in pow a couple times). Of those, I would say the trip 8. I think the 94 is more veritile and has better versitility.
post #6 of 14
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Originally Posted by paulk View Post
OK, here is the deal - I need to decide which one to buy ...
Yes, this will be my only skis, can efford only one pair, should make no mistakes. Above that, I can not demo - I am travelling for ski vacation soon and want to buy skis b.f. - not to spend time on renting/demoing.
Skiing mostly in Europe offpistes, powder, grooms too, avoid bumps.
I am 5'8, ~155lb. After ACL injury not as aggressive as I used to be. Not a speed freak anymore too.

Most important features (in order of importance):
1) Smooth ride in cut / difficult snow (absorb vibration etc.)
2) quick edge to edge
3) Hold on Ice
4) good powder performance

I am looking at the length in 174-179 range.
Can you give a mark to the skis according to the points above. If I missed some good ski, please feel free to add.

Thanks a bunch,
Paul
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Marks from 1 to 5 (5 is best)

mark 1 2 3 4
================
im88
888
mission
mythic
outlaw
Mission :
1) 3 (meaning it has a speed limit)
2) 5 (Do not feel that fat !)
3) 3 (average)
5) 5 (feel really fat)

I didn't ski any of the other options, so take it FWIW. All marks considering the wide waist (90mm) of the ski.
The mission has a very short radius and can get grabby. It's also a ton of fun in soft snow and a very good do-it-all ski. You may also consider the new Punisher (stiffer twin tipped Mission, which sounds nice).

For reference, I would rate the Dynastar 8800 (a mid fat I really liked) :
1) 4
2) 3
3) 3
4) 4
post #7 of 14
Your requirements describe the Head i.M88 exactly.

Absolutly amazing in the cut up/No vibration, very damp.
(when you are ready to tune the ski the 1st time, change the side edge to a 2 degree) Big improvement

Quick (175cm = 19M radius)
Skis like a GS race ski on the groomed.
Has none of that "too fat waist' feel
No speed limit on groomed

At your weight in a 175cm with 88mm waist, float wil not be any problem at all in POW. I am 185LBS. & ski the 175 and love it in Powder!
post #8 of 14
Paul

Are you the same Paulk from Sailnet?

Have not tried IM 88. The IM 78 is narrower but should do everthing you describe.

One comment about the wider skis. They tend to be heavier than the narrower skis if that means anything to you.

Mike
J27
Nut Case
post #9 of 14
Thread Starter 
So, just to add to my initial question:
which of those skis would be easiest on knees, and least tiring for legs in all day skiing ?
Paul
post #10 of 14
Quote:
Originally Posted by paulk View Post
So, just to add to my initial question:
which of those skis would be easiest on knees, and least tiring for legs in all day skiing ?
Paul
1) Outlaw
2) Mission

SJ
post #11 of 14
Nordica Top Fuel "Jet Fuel" 178L AWESOME!!!
post #12 of 14
What you should do is buy two pairs of 2006/2007 skis and not buy just one pair of 2008's!
post #13 of 14
The im 88 175cm!!!


when I read your description of what you were looking for I thought of the head before I saw your choices. I've only skied the Outlaw in addition to the head-so I have no opinions on the Mythic or the Mission.

1.5-kills the cut up-but you can't be shy about puttng it on edge
2. Now, I can only assume we're comparing it to other 88 mm waisted skis here-if so-4
3. 4 very good ice hold
4. Powder-4 compared to other 88mm waisted skis-but, of course not on par with true powder boards in the deep stuff.
post #14 of 14
Quote:
Originally Posted by WorldSkier#1 View Post
What you should do is buy two pairs of 2006/2007 skis and not buy just one pair of 2008's!
Great advice. Heed it.
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