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Identify this Elan SLX WC ski please

post #1 of 25
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Hi,

just bought this ski off ebay:


A killer deal I think - it has great high din Markers and a Vist plate on it.. However, I don't know what year it is, and I don't know anything about it It is 168cm.. Any of you got this ski or demoed it who can tell me how it is? btw. I only gave 35,5€ + shipping - dunno how much shipping is yet though
post #2 of 25
2002 colours
post #3 of 25
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worth anything?
post #4 of 25
35,5€
post #5 of 25
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35,5€
Really?
post #6 of 25
I think that is a 2001 retail model SLX - although it could possibly be older than that even. Those skis has similar graphics for several seasons. I have actually skied on a 163cm WC ski from that season that had those graphics on it (sweet skis). This ski you have is old technology - just on the brink of the shaped slalom ski revolution before everyone was buying into it. It will probably ski more similar to an old [straight] slalom ski than a new one.
Later
Greg
post #7 of 25
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Well what about the plate and the binding? If the ski sucks - could I use them for anything?
post #8 of 25
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Really?
You are the market maker.

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Well what about the plate and the binding? If the ski sucks - could I use them for anything?
Narrow brakes on those.
post #9 of 25
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Btw. Greg - retail with a Vist plate and a Marker binding with DIN upto 24? The guy who sold it calls it a "rennski" = racestock.

Has anyone got a link to a site where I can find old models?
post #10 of 25
It isn't stock. The topsheet tells you that. The stock ski from that year was something like 116-63-110 and an 11.9m radius I think - it had a huge sidecut for its vintage. The Markers are useable on a ski that doesn't require a specific binding and the plates - depending on what VIST it is - could be good. All things considered - not a bid find - but the skis aren't going to wow you by any means.
Later
Greg
post #11 of 25
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he says sidecut is 100/62/86 => radius = ~12m

link is here but is german:
http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?...EOIBSA:DE:1123

you might understand some of it at least the numbers.. And there are pictures..
post #12 of 25
Looks like the 2002 Elan SLX pictured on realskiers except for the one on realskiers has the directional pointy tips for gates, same sidecut too, supposed to be good for slalom racing and not much else.
post #13 of 25
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Looks like the 2002 Elan SLX pictured on realskiers except for the one on realskiers has the directional pointy tips for gates, same sidecut too, supposed to be good for slalom racing and not much else.
Yeah.. And I found this one: 2003/2004 model in Italy with same sidecut as well but different tips:

http://cgi.ebay.it/sci-%22ELAN-SLX-W...QQcmdZViewItem

So what's the difference? Why would my tips differ?
post #14 of 25
The VIST Absorber is a decent plate - similar to what Atomic used on their race skis for so many years (CarveX and RaceCharger, etc). It is a bit older but still current I think. No way is the radius on those 12m. If I had to take a guess I would think they were somewhere in the 15m to 17m radius arena (Salomon Equipe 3V of the same era was a 15m radius in a 168 and had a sidecut of 103-62-93). I also see the "hook" tip protectors have been shaved into a normal tip. All things considered, not a bad deal, but the ski isn't worth much.
post #15 of 25
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Maybe I should cut the deal off.. I'm not interested in a ski with that kind of radius - I already have a GS ski.. I was looking for a cheap SL ski.. Physicsman calculates the radius to be 17,6m

But maybe I should do it to get the binding - I dunno how much it is worth when it is used AND Marker..
post #16 of 25
It looks like the same radius as their GS ski for that year. My experience with older longer radius slalom skis is that you really have to be very aggressive on them and then they only really do short slalom turns at SL racing speeds well.
post #17 of 25
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Maybe I should cut the deal off..
Are you allowed to do that on German ebay?
post #18 of 25
You need a binding that goes to 24?
post #19 of 25
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Are you allowed to do that on German ebay?
I'm not sure.. If he lies in the description of the article then I believe I am..

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You need a binding that goes to 24?
Not really, but you know what they say about markers
Actually, I don't even need a binding at all :P

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It looks like the same radius as their GS ski for that year. My experience with older longer radius slalom skis is that you really have to be very aggressive on them and then they only really do short slalom turns at SL racing speeds well.
Well if their radius is 17m they can't arc below 17m can they?
post #20 of 25
It's an '02 non-FIS ski. I used to have the GS version of that. Wow... those bindings look like MRRs.

Dennis
post #21 of 25
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It's an '02 non-FIS ski. I used to have the GS version of that. Wow... those bindings look like MRRs.

Dennis
So what's your input? and what is MRRs?
post #22 of 25
I thought you just wanted a year identification of the skis. I actually skied on a pair, but I opted for the FIS ski to own. It's plenty quick, but it lacks the grip of a true WC ski. But that's typical of non-FIS vs. FIS skis.

The binding is a Marker MRR (MRR = Marker Race Rotomat). The rotomat is a semi-turntable heel like the Look/Rossignol PivotAxial heel.
post #23 of 25
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I thought you just wanted a year identification of the skis. I actually skied on a pair, but I opted for the FIS ski to own. It's plenty quick, but it lacks the grip of a true WC ski. But that's typical of non-FIS vs. FIS skis.

The binding is a Marker MRR (MRR = Marker Race Rotomat). The rotomat is a semi-turntable heel like the Look/Rossignol PivotAxial heel.
Arh.. And how was the radius? - did it feel like an SL or a GS ski?
post #24 of 25
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Arh.. And how was the radius? - did it feel like an SL or a GS ski?
It felt like a slalom ski.
post #25 of 25
It will arc less than 17 m; remember radius is side-cut radius divided by cosine of the angle you tip the skis to.
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