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post #1 of 12
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About me:

5' 10" 240lbs male intermediate (terminal intermediate…?) skier who averages 10-15 days in Colorado.

Fisher Watea 84 176cm, demo binding’s…

I have zero experience reviewing skis so I hope this helps someone in the same position…most of my comparison will be against the Head im72, because it’s the only other non-rental ski I have used…

I went to Loveland with the family…
Conditions were pretty tough…
About 10* with 20mph wind most of the day…
All of the fresh snow from last week was gone where the wind hit the slopes; some soft snow was still available on the sides of the runs…all of the middle of the runs were wind blown, hard snow, some icy patch’s, not normal for around here…

First thought that comes to mind is these skis are very smooth, much, much smoother than my Head im72…

Even though the Watea’s were supposed to be a larger turning radius, 17 vs. 15 compared to the im72...You could have fooled me, I did not notice much difference…only at the end of the turn, the im72 pulls you into the finish of the turn a little harder…

Very little difference on the quickness edge to edge, again I did not feel much difference between the two…

The stability was superb, in these conditions the im72 would be good, but the Watea was head and shoulder’s above the im72…I never had any stability concerns…

The edge grip was just fine, in the conditions we skied in you could not ask for more, maybe a pure groomed /carver ski would do better in these conditions, but I had nothing to complain about, very similar to the im72…

These skis are very, very easy to ski, never I have I been on a ski that was this easy to use, but delivered so much performance…they made me a better skier immediately…they allowed me to go on runs that I would avoid on the im72…

These skis are not tiring to ski, after 15-20 runs on the im72’s my legs are tired…sometimes just plain burnt…not on the Watea’s…I was much fresher after using these skis…

All of this makes me want these for my all mountain ski…

The advice I get from everyone is get the 184cm length, I will have to talk to Dawg about a set of these…

My question is will the 184cm length perform the same as the 176cm, but with more stability…if so I have gone to permagrin heaven…
post #2 of 12
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Originally Posted by rspacher View Post
About me:

5' 10" 240lbs male intermediate (terminal intermediate…?) skier who averages 10-15 days in Colorado.

Fisher Watea 84 176cm, demo binding’s…

I have zero experience reviewing skis so I hope this helps someone in the same position…most of my comparison will be against the Head im72, because it’s the only other non-rental ski I have used…

I went to Loveland with the family…
Conditions were pretty tough…
About 10* with 20mph wind most of the day…
All of the fresh snow from last week was gone where the wind hit the slopes; some soft snow was still available on the sides of the runs…all of the middle of the runs were wind blown, hard snow, some icy patch’s, not normal for around here…

First thought that comes to mind is these skis are very smooth, much, much smoother than my Head im72…

Even though the Watea’s were supposed to be a larger turning radius, 17 vs. 15 compared to the im72...You could have fooled me, I did not notice much difference…only at the end of the turn, the im72 pulls you into the finish of the turn a little harder…

Very little difference on the quickness edge to edge, again I did not feel much difference between the two…

The stability was superb, in these conditions the im72 would be good, but the Watea was head and shoulder’s above the im72…I never had any stability concerns…

The edge grip was just fine, in the conditions we skied in you could not ask for more, maybe a pure groomed /carver ski would do better in these conditions, but I had nothing to complain about, very similar to the im72…

These skis are very, very easy to ski, never I have I been on a ski that was this easy to use, but delivered so much performance…they made me a better skier immediately…they allowed me to go on runs that I would avoid on the im72…

These skis are not tiring to ski, after 15-20 runs on the im72’s my legs are tired…sometimes just plain burnt…not on the Watea’s…I was much fresher after using these skis…

All of this makes me want these for my all mountain ski…

The advice I get from everyone is get the 184cm length, I will have to talk to Dawg about a set of these…

My question is will the 184cm length perform the same as the 176cm, but with more stability…if so I have gone to permagrin heaven…
I am glad you liked them! The length sounds about right for you then. I am 1 inch shorter and on the same size. I think this ski is under the radar for those looking for a versatile, forgiving all-conditions ski, but there is no reason it shouldn't be front and center.
post #3 of 12
Thread Starter 
How do you think the 184's would work...
Would they give me something to grow into as i advance in skill...
Will they perform the same just with more stability...
As log as they turn the same and don't feel sluggish...
I would consider the 184 ,length...
they were very, very easy to ski...
Decisions, decisions...
post #4 of 12
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Originally Posted by rspacher View Post
How do you think the 184's would work...
Would they give me something to grow into as i advance in skill...
Will they perform the same just with more stability...
As log as they turn the same and don't feel sluggish...
I would consider the 184 ,length...
they were very, very easy to ski...
Decisions, decisions...
184 felt way longer to me. If you didn't think the 176's were short, you will probably think the 184's are too long: slow and unresponsive. They work best at around head height, which is 176 for you. But, if you can try a 184, by all means, do!
post #5 of 12
I'm a big guy who was skied both the 176 & the 184cm. I'm a faster skier and the 184cm was more stable for me. the 184cm did lot feel as long as the dims would indicate and was easy to use.

I would try the 184cm if possible.

regards,

Michael
post #6 of 12
I havn't seen Michael ski yet, but from what I hear, he is better than intermediate...unless you felt you had stability issues with 176 at speed, then I wouldn't jump up in length if you really liked them as much as you said.

Good luck either way,
Matt0
post #7 of 12
Thread Starter 
Could not help myself...

Ordered a pair from Dawg this morning...
post #8 of 12
Micheal is a level 9+, he will say otherwise but he is! The 84 is a fun ski, quick, nimble, snappy and adept at most conditions; good in bumps, just not enough float in deeper snow (at a foot, they were not enough), I think you may find that they are a few notches in performance higher than the 72's, which I owned for about a week. The 72 is a great intermediate ski but dead, damp and soft; especially compared to a 84. You will really like them and good job ordering from the dawgman! Scott's a great guy.
post #9 of 12
Thread Starter 
From what i have read ...he is WAY better than an intermediate....I would venture to say expert...

I really liked the length I was on, they felt wonderful in really crappy conditions for here in Colorado...

I ordered a pair from Dawg's shop this morning...

I stayed with the 176 length...

They were very stable, and felt like they had much more left in the tank for me...

If i make these skis un-stable, I am skiing way too fast, for me at least...

What I liked about them the most was how easy they were to use and they made me a better skier immediately and they were FUN, FUN , FUN...
post #10 of 12
Hi Guys,

Thanks... but just to keep things in perspective... Tyrone is a 9+ and speaking of pee, ...well, if I tried to ski his lines I would have more than this on my skis!

The 84 is a very fun ski and congrats on the purchase.

Michael
post #11 of 12
Ok, then Micheal is a 9.1! I put Tyrone in a different kind of class....... I have chased Michael more than once.
post #12 of 12
Thread Starter 
You hit it right on the nail with that..

They are head and shoulders above the im72...

Good thing there is plenty of ski season left...

Iwould be bummed if I got these at the end of the season and got to try them out just once or twice...would make for a long off season...
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