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Help! Fisher WC RC4 SC or RC4 Progressor?

post #1 of 13
Thread Starter 
Please help me make up my mind. I've been trying to pick between 2 great skies: Both Fisher's - the WC RC4 and the RC4 Progressor. I ski mostly on hard packed groomed slopes in lower Michigan. I'm a 40ish female, former racer, now Level 2 (Hope to be Level 3 this season) ski instructor. I'm 5'8 and about 130 lbs. I did a demo of the SC in a 155 and the Progressor in 160. I'm currently on the Volkl Attiva 5 star and am overpowering it by twisting it in my turns. I love to do both short radius turns and some gs turns.

I really enjoy the "pop" that you get from the SC, but the Progressor seems like it's a little more of an easy ride but I can't seem to get it on edge quite as well as I do the SC.

Has anybody else taken these 2 skies on some demo runs, and if so, what was your experience with the 2.

Thanks!

~Anne~
post #2 of 13
I have the Fischer RC4 WC SC which I like a lot, but haven't tried the Fischer Progressor. However, there are several very good reviews on it here that rate the Progressor highly. Use the search engine and type "Progressor". I don't recall seeing a comparison between the two models though. Hopefully, others who have skied both can respond here. Another option in the Fischer line that might be a good one for Michigan would be the Fischer RC4 WC RC which is 16m at 175cm (14m @ 165cm) with a sidecut of 112-66-97. It's basically a slimmer version of the Progressor and has been one of the most popular and successful recreational racing skis produced for a number of seasons now. It has great edgehold.
post #3 of 13
I don't think the SC will work for GS'ish turns - it's very eager to go from edge to edge I haven't tried the progressor though But heard it is very versatile..
post #4 of 13
Hey Snowmiser! I haven't skied either of those skis, but almost bought the Progressors so did a LOT of research, reading, PMing and based on what I learned I think it would be better for your purposes. How's that for third hand info!

I love the RX8's btw, very, very versatile.
post #5 of 13
This may sound like heresy, but at 130 you are a good weight for Jr. race skis. Especially for a (slightly ) older skier the flex is there but the performance is very good. Try a Fischer Jr. RC4 GS in a 163 or 168. I think that Fishers generally tend to be a bit stiff - they list the top weight limit for their Jr. race skis as 135 - so you'd be near the top end and able to bend them comfortably. They are light but very torsionally rigid and so have great edge grip on hardpack and ice. That model is a little wider under the foot and behaves both like an all-mountain ski and a race ski. Terrific turner and not the least squirrilly at speed (unlike the SCs, which btw I think are much slower skis as well). With a side cut radius of 17m you can turn them almost like slalom skis if you want and you can pick them up cheap on eBay too, like around $100. I used the SCs for a while but will never go back having stumbled on the Jr. race skis (I also weigh 130 - 50 yr old male still skiing aggressively and fast). One drawback is that the Jr. plate is a bit low - I use VIST WC CRV plates with the mastic and the dog-bone removed. Any good adult race plate would do and you could afford a good plate by saving money on the skis. My $.02 worth - best of luck!
post #6 of 13
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Originally Posted by midfielder View Post
This may sound like heresy, but at 130 you are a good weight for Jr. race skis. Especially for a (slightly ) older skier the flex is there but the performance is very good. Try a Fischer Jr. RC4 GS in a 163 or 168. I think that Fishers generally tend to be a bit stiff - they list the top weight limit for their Jr. race skis as 135 - so you'd be near the top end and able to bend them comfortably. They are light but very torsionally rigid and so have great edge grip on hardpack and ice. That model is a little wider under the foot and behaves both like an all-mountain ski and a race ski. Terrific turner and not the least squirrilly at speed (unlike the SCs, which btw I think are much slower skis as well). With a side cut radius of 17m you can turn them almost like slalom skis if you want and you can pick them up cheap on eBay too, like around $100. I used the SCs for a while but will never go back having stumbled on the Jr. race skis (I also weigh 130 - 50 yr old male still skiing aggressively and fast). One drawback is that the Jr. plate is a bit low - I use VIST WC CRV plates with the mastic and the dog-bone removed. Any good adult race plate would do and you could afford a good plate by saving money on the skis. My $.02 worth - best of luck!
I think a lot of people just have principals telling them not to ski junior skis when being an adult However, it is a nice proposition...
post #7 of 13
Thread Starter 
Thank you all for your great advice and suggestions. The shop does have the Jr. RC4 GS, so I'll try those and see what I think. The Progressor's were super fast.

I'll search the forum on the Progressor SkiMangoJazz and see what I come up with too. I know that everybody raved about the RX8's, maybe the progessor is it's replacement! .
post #8 of 13
I own a pair of the WC SC and absolutely love them. I have demo'd the Progressor and there is no doubt that it is a solid ski.

Honestly, with the short, hard groomed runs in MN... the SC is just the perfect ski for me. I love to carve hard and the ski is always there for me. Short answer.. the WC SC is just more fun.. from my perspective.

That being said.. I have a pair of Cold Heats coming from Dawg for my CO trip.
post #9 of 13
I am not all that much bigger than you, and the Progressor is a money ski. Simply put, it is the best combination of short and long radius, forgiveness and race-like performance I have seen since the RIPstick. If you are looking for a race-like freeski that is 70mm underfoot (and quite good in crud, as well as bumps, BTW) this is probably your best bet. I love mine. The WC SC isn't as versatile, but gets the edge in short-radius arcs. The Progressor isn't a pure slalom, but can do any size turn shape, and is much less exhausting than the WC SC.
post #10 of 13
I own the WC SC and spent a day last year on the Progressors. I think that the Progressor was much more willing to make different sized turns and liked to run more than the SC. Performance wise they seemed comprable and edge hold was great but I skied the Progressors on a day when there was no ice at all (surprising for the east coast) they held extremly well on the groomed runs--the SC's are great on ice. They do have energy out of the turn but not like the SC. I like the Progressor better because it is much more willing to make larger radius turns while also doing well at small SL type turns.
post #11 of 13
Thread Starter 
Thanks for the great input Noderoc, dawgcatching and powderhound24! While I love the rebound at the end of the turn on the SC, the Progressor seems like a ski you could ride all day and not be tired. I kinda liked the length of the sc at 155, but the shortest length of the progressor I was told was 160.

I'm going to have to go out hopefully early in the week and ride them both again. I'll let you all know what I end up with.

The SC is really fun, but the Progressor sure is Smooth!
post #12 of 13

demo rc4 and progressor

Hi, I am also from lower michigan and I have been looking for a shop that demos these skis. I have not found one. Where did you go to try the rc4 sc and the progressor? I am also an ex-USSA racer. I ski the leagues mostly now. Believe it or not I still ski on my old straight skis (slalom) that are 14 years old. Yikes. The guys at the shops recommend all sorts of skis but avoid talking about the racing and racing type skis because they won't let me demo them. I just don't lolly-gag down the slopes and I don't want a ski that does either. I am nervous to buy one without trying it. Where did you go?
post #13 of 13
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Originally Posted by Snowmiser View Post
I ski mostly on hard packed groomed slopes in lower Michigan.
You don't need to go wider. Try the SC in 160 and try an RC in 170.
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