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post #1 of 10
Thread Starter 
I have picked up a pair of Watea 94s as my soft snow ski.

Me: 53, 195 lbs, level 8, ski Colo, Utah 12 to 20 days a yr., DIN 8

I know little about bindings but based on the many helpful reviews here have put the following on my lists of bindings:

1. Mojo 15
2. Rossi Axial 120
3. Look PX 12 or 14.

Are there any significant differences which would differentiate these? One point which i have not seen addressed is whether there are any differences in ease of clicking back in in deep snow or steeps.

Thanks. As always i appreciate the excellant advise I find here.
post #2 of 10
I just got some Wateas and had Tyrolia LD12 bindings put on (flat mount), just because I like that particular binding and its safety features. But it does pose a challenge when putting skis on while on a steep slope. When I park at the local mtn for day trips, I end up walking out to the edge of a fairly steep trail to get on the snow, and it takes some tricks to get into the LD12s when the snow is hard and I can't dig the skis in. So if that's important to you, the Mojo is indeed a better choice for on-hill step-in. But you do lose that diagonal heel release with the Mojo. It's a tradeoff for sure. I have LD12 variants on three of my skis now, so you can tell what direction I lean toward...

You may already know, but except for DIN differences, #2 and #3 on your list are the same thing.
post #3 of 10
Thread Starter 
I was suspecting 2 and 3 were substanially similar but did not know they were the same.

Are you aware of any alternatives that are not on my list that maintain the safety features of the Tyrolia, or is the the diagonal release mechanism which is at the root of the hard click in?

I am concerned on the safety side as my wife just had a tib/fib plateau frature due to a binding that did not release.
post #4 of 10
As has been stated many times, bindings are the source of more passion and controversy than virtually any other piece of equipment. Passionate advocates will steer you to their favorites. Others feel that since all commercially sold bindings must pass identical tests to be certified, there is little real difference in everyday performance for 99% of recreational skiers. In your case, you would arguably be perfectly safe with any major brand. You could safely pick any current model with a DIN that goes up to 12 and choose by price/cosmetics. Perhaps you might consider Marker bindings for your wife as they are designed to release easier in some falls that other bindings don't. She/you might feel reassured having this design feature. On the other hand, some skiers dislike this, as they feel the bindings release TOO easily. I doubt you or your wife would be aware of any difference unless you are hucking cliffs or hitting undulations/bumps at high racing speeds. All bindings today are pretty dependable at releasing when they should. If you really feel that a feature touted by a manufacturer will make their bindings safer, by all means buy it. It may not, but emotional well being is important.
post #5 of 10
The diagonal release is what makes them challenging to click into on a steep trail, since the heel wants to swing sideways as you try stepping in. This is not a big enough issue to bother me, especially since I can't remember the last time I lost a ski and had to re-click-in on a trail. It's just a minor annoyance when I click in first thing in the AM if I am starting on a steep hill. It's a non-issue the rest of the time.

I think almost all the bindings are safe, but all will still result in occasional freak situations where you get an injury. I happen to like the Tyrolias because of the extra release scenarios the LD heel offers, while at the same time they seem to stay well planted on my feet -- never had a pre-release. But many other brands are good as well. The Look/Rossi PX bindings are generally well regarded here, as are some of the Salomons. Markers seem to be reasonable safe as well, but many people here feel that they can pre-release. Keep in mind these are strong type-III skiers who would rather trade retention for a bit of safety margin, so they are more concerned that the bindings stay on than come off.
post #6 of 10
Thread Starter 
thanks for all of your comments
post #7 of 10
The Look/Rossi has the advantage when clicking in in deep snow because you can reach down and help move the heel piece up with your hand.
post #8 of 10
Call me crazy, but doesn't the Mojo 15 have the diagonal release in the heel as well? Was holding a pair in my hands last night, and the heel definitely pivots sideways. Maybe I'm misunderstanding the feature you're describing.
post #9 of 10
I've got both Rossi axial2 140 and the Mojo 15. I had some initial trouble with the Mojo's forward pressure. After resolving that it is a very good binding, but the Rossi is my favorite. The heel on the Mojo does pivot. I don't think that is the same as Rossignol's diagonal release.
post #10 of 10
Yes, I was wrong about the Mojo -- it does have a diagonal heel. I was thinking the diagonal heel was one of the differentiators between the Mojo and the LD12, but that's not the case. It looks like the Mojo's heel is just beefier and heavier, but otherwise similar to the LD12.
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