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Vid: Bode's run @ 2008 Wengen

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ttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bCrQhfSFXuE Here's a link that shows Bode's run
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Wow!
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I only wish there was video of the entire run, with every section covered. As such, the common video pool feed omits a great deal of the top and mid sections of the course.

But Bode sure skis the hell out of the bottom part, doesn't he?
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Nearly on his @rse just before the Hundschopf (not a good place to fall!) but he nailed the "money" turns: the s on the Alpweg before the railway tunnel.
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Wengen SL here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ibtCRQtfMdk
Bode looks to be skiing better in SL than he has done for a while.
(Classic "commentator's curse" from John Clark on Mario Matt.)
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Originally Posted by Martin Bell View Post
Nearly on his @rse just before the Hundschopf (not a good place to fall!) but he nailed the "money" turns: the s on the Alpweg before the railway tunnel.
I made the same mental note, Martin: he really got back and twisted heading into the Hundschopf, and his line coming in to land was a bit off compared to folks like Osborne-Paradis. But you're right: he nailed the Kernen-S section, with a nice light touch and an aggressive entry (notice how some of the top seed racers threw in a check turn before the S sequence, scrubbing their speed in the process).

I would love to see the full, top-to-bottom footage of Bode's run, because he made up a ton of time between the Wasser-Station underpass and the Haneggschuß speed traps near the bottom - a section with a lot of gliding, which isn't usually Bode's strength. And his line on the bottom was simply aggressive and direct.
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Originally Posted by Martin Bell View Post
Wengen SL here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ibtCRQtfMdk
Bode looks to be skiing better in SL than he has done for a while.
(Classic "commentator's curse" from John Clark on Mario Matt.)
Warp Daddy and Martin, thanks for posting those links.

Call me whatever you want, but video of WC racing looks so much more impressive to me than big mountain competitions. The power, speed, finesse, endurance, and full-on cojones of these guys (and girls) is just awe-inspiring.

Hey, Martin, I have a question for you.

The video of Bode's downhill showed a lot of changes from bright sunlight to shadows all the way down the course. As someone who's actually done that stuff, what's your assessment of how much of a problem that is for the racer's visibility, reactions, etc?

From my own experience when I'm going fairly fast in similar light conditions, there's a moment or two when I go INTO the shadows from bright sunlight where it's just really hard to make out the snow surface. Does that cause much of a problem for these elite guys or are they just so good and so experienced that they don't even notice it?
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Comparing Bode's slalom to what he was skiing previously, he doesn't even look like the same skier. Good for him.
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Originally Posted by HeluvaSkier View Post
Comparing Bode's slalom to what he was skiing previously, he doesn't even look like the same skier. Good for him.
I particularly liked the quote from the commentator about a third of the way into Bode's run. Something along the lines of...

"Just having seen this much of his run, I can say for sure that Bode is back".

It would be so cool to see him start putting up consistent slalom results again. :
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I agree Bob. I am certain he can do it with the proper guidance and focus. He seems to have found a combination of both that is working for him right now.
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Originally Posted by Bob Peters View Post
Warp Daddy and Martin, thanks for posting those links.

Call me whatever you want, but video of WC racing looks so much more impressive to me than big mountain competitions. The power, speed, finesse, endurance, and full-on cojones of these guys (and girls) is just awe-inspiring.
Big Mountain competitors dream of racing downhill. Many (perhaps most) admit that they could never do it.

Ironically, the best BM competitors I have ever seen all ski like downhill racers. Straight, big, fast, and hanging on... often with finesse.

Both schools carry similiar obstacles; high-speed blind airs. I think that if you ride skis and can arc an 80mph turn into an air for whose landing you cannot see, then you can almost ski downill or bm.
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Originally Posted by samurai View Post
Big Mountain competitors dream of racing downhill. Many (perhaps most) admit that they could never do it.
Many of them actually have, so I'm not sure what you're talking about.
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Bob, generally sun to shade is not too much of a problem, because the reflected sunlight still provides a lot of contrast for the shaded areas.
When the whole slope is in shade (i.e. northfacing, like Garmisch or Veysonnaz), I remember that as being worse for visibility. That's when the blue dye does help, although back in my day it was usually pine needles....
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Originally Posted by saudan's boudoir View Post
Many of them actually have, so I'm not sure what you're talking about.
I believe you. However, in my 4 years on the tour, I never met any competitor who had previously raced world cup downhill. I can't think of one actually. Not that they don't exist. Perhaps you can enlighten me?

Most of the bm competitors I've met are all very humble skiers and admit that wc downhill racers are ridiculous.
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