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Goats vs. Bros

post #1 of 12
Thread Starter 
Hey,

I was close to buying a pair of Goats, as I'm looking for some skis that do better in the PNW powder. I'm 6'4" and 250Lb, so I put a lot of stress on a ski.

Someone suggested I check out the Bro 188s, and having read about them, they sound worth taking a look at. Unfortunately, the closest pair to demo is on Vancouver Island or Mt Hood.

So, my questions for folks w. experience here:
  1. For someone my size, would the soft Bros give enough lift to be a good powder ski??
  2. How would they compare to to Goats?
  3. Because of my weight, I find most skis chatter on me at high speed and packed powder... any ideas on how chattery the Bros are?
  4. How well built are the Bros?
  5. If the Bros are really good powder skis, my tendency is to go with them to support PMGear.
Any other ideas/thoughts/suggestions - let em rip. Appreciate them in advance!

David

P.S. I read the other threads on this, here, and at TGR. So, search function used, so no JONG b/s.
post #2 of 12
183 or 190cm goats are better in powder than the 188cm Soft bros9well at least under my foot)....but for you why not go with the 192cm FKNA bros? I am pretty sure the 192 will be better all around than the either the 188 bro or any size gotama.
post #3 of 12
If it is an issue with you, the Goats are made in China while the Bros are made in the USA and Europe.
post #4 of 12
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If it is an issue with you, the Goats are made in China while the Bros are made in the USA and Europe.
Yeah, it is partially an issue. The fact that there were men and women building those things in Germany, who had been doing it fantastically for years, and now? Yep, it matters big time.

Bushwacker, I'd briefly considered the 192s, but they just looked so frigging big. But reading in more detail says it's proportionally the same as the 179, which sounds better.

Now a question is what are the different laydowns that are available? Carbon, etc.

David
post #5 of 12
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Now a question is what are the different laydowns that are available? Carbon, etc.

David

Carbon is available on the 192's. We are still discussing a carbon option when the 186 Rockers go into Broduction. We should start pressing those this week.

You might consider the 183's. Those are pressed by Aldo Kuonen of AK Skis for us. Admittedly the Bros AK presses are superior craftsmanship, to anything available by anyone.

Carbon Fiber is standard in the lay up for all the AK Bros. They are pressed with a world cup race wood core.
AK pressed Bros are available in 164, 174, 183, and 195.

A similar thread on TGR might answer a few more questions.

They have become our most popular size this past season. Tyrone Shoelaces normally skis longer than the 183, but I believe it has taken over his every day ski spot.
post #6 of 12
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Originally Posted by slavebro View Post
Carbon is available on the 192's. We are still discussing a carbon option when the 186 Rockers go into Broduction. We should start pressing those this week.

You might consider the 183's. Those are pressed by Aldo Kuonen of AK Skis for us. Admittedly the Bros AK presses are superior craftsmanship, to anything available by anyone.

Carbon Fiber is standard in the lay up for all the AK Bros. They are pressed with a world cup race wood core.
AK pressed Bros are available in 164, 174, 183, and 195.

A similar thread on TGR might answer a few more questions.

They have become our most popular size this past season. Tyrone Shoelaces normally skis longer than the 183, but I believe it has taken over his every day ski spot.

Thanks Slavebro,

Been reading the TGR threads too. Given my weight and size, I think the 183s would be too small. I'm really looking for a ski with solid float that can cut through the crud more beefier. Hmmmmm.
post #7 of 12
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by slavebro View Post
Carbon is available on the 192's. We are still discussing a carbon option when the 186 Rockers go into Broduction. We should start pressing those this week.

You might consider the 183's. Those are pressed by Aldo Kuonen of AK Skis for us. Admittedly the Bros AK presses are superior craftsmanship, to anything available by anyone.

Carbon Fiber is standard in the lay up for all the AK Bros. They are pressed with a world cup race wood core.
AK pressed Bros are available in 164, 174, 183, and 195.

A similar thread on TGR might answer a few more questions.

They have become our most popular size this past season. Tyrone Shoelaces normally skis longer than the 183, but I believe it has taken over his every day ski spot.

Thanks Slavebro,

Been reading the TGR threads too. Given my weight and size, I think the 183s would be too small. I'm really looking for a ski with solid float that can cut through the crud more beefier. Hmmmmm.
post #8 of 12
Dude - You're the size of an NFL tight end; get the 190 Goats. Really, you've got me by 50 lbs, and I've got the 183s and I'm thinking about the 190s.
post #9 of 12
I think you should take a hard look at the 192 Bro.

The 160 pound Free skiers are using them for competition.

And there are a random number big guys skiing them everyday.

Seems like the perfect ski for a guy 6'4" @ 240.

They would be a play thing for you.

So if you were looking for a HEAVY Powder/ High speed crud buster?

BIG BRO dude.

BTW might be someone who would sell on TGR.

Or you might take advantage of the Bro deal posted and go for some carbon custom Big Bro's.

Regarding 188's. Go Stiff not soft

Other ski's to consider

Legend Pro 194
or 194 XXL
post #10 of 12

100$ off for the BRO

ou don't need to go to any special link or anything like that. Just got to www.pmgear.com and add skis to your shopping cart. When you are checking out, you must enter the code "change4anickel" into the discount code box and the $100 discount will be applied.
post #11 of 12
I'm 6'3 180lbs and I went with the AK made 183 soft bro. We'll see how it pans out.
post #12 of 12
got the sweet maggot discount too :-)
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