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post #1 of 11
Thread Starter 
could anybody give a brief definition of different types of turn, starting with a series of fast, paralel turns in fall line???

what about turns with up/down movements of the torso?

and turns when we gradualy slow down or control the speed

etc etc ????????????
post #2 of 11
Short, medium and long radius in carved turns.

You can do an fast series of short radius turns down the fall line (13m), to control speed and go slower. Of course you need the ski for that.

You can use up/down motion (unweight to lighten), and induce a bit of skid and shorten the radius if you are on a longer radius (18/21m) ... GS type ski.

Toss in a bit of "stem" .... it works for Bode at times ...

So ... fast parallel ... "SL type" turns @ about 12m ....... "GS type" longer turns @ about 20ish in the fall line all the way up to SG or DH at "mach numbers" and you don't want to be in that range on the wrong skis.

The type of turn to check speed and slow down ... sounds like you are unsure about a pass and are just hitting the brakes ... more of a controled slip/skid with increased edge pressure.
post #3 of 11
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Originally Posted by Yuki View Post
Short, medium and long radius in carved turns.

You can do an fast series of short radius turns down the fall line (13m), to control speed and go slower. Of course you need the ski for that.

You can use up/down motion (unweight to lighten), and induce a bit of skid and shorten the radius if you are on a longer radius (18/21m) ... GS type ski.

Toss in a bit of "stem" .... it works for Bode at times ...

So ... fast parallel ... "SL type" turns @ about 12m ....... "GS type" longer turns @ about 20ish in the fall line all the way up to SG or DH at "mach numbers" and you don't want to be in that range on the wrong skis.

The type of turn to check speed and slow down ... sounds like you are unsure about a pass and are just hitting the brakes ... more of a controled slip/skid with increased edge pressure.

thank you, but: is it any one-word or two-words definition of different types of turns???

I'm talking also about pre-carving time
post #4 of 11
Hit the Google search engine ... type in ... PSIA stem christie

one of our Epic archives will show up and detail the:

Wedge Christie (snow plow)

Stem Christie

Then add the newer "Gliding Wedge" .... PSIA ... what we teach now in beginners classes. In essence, it is a narrower wedge that places emphasis on pressure and retraction and in progression will and does lead to automatic parallel.
post #5 of 11
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Yuki View Post
Hit the Google search engine ... type in ... PSIA stem christie

one of our Epic archives will show up and detail the:

Wedge Christie (snow plow)

Stem Christie

Then add the newer "Gliding Wedge" .... PSIA ... what we teach now in beginners classes. In essence, it is a narrower wedge that places emphasis on pressure and retraction and in progression will and does lead to automatic parallel.

yaaaa, but realy the google is not very supportive of psia: stem Christie, parallel Christie and wedeln turns these are the base turns

nobody realy discus the differences and technical approach to how to teach them

what about :base christie, "slow-down" christie, acceleration christie, jet christie etc ???
(those words are dirrectly translated from german program)

anybody can realy describe the differences

BTW: I've seen MANY people holding PSIA certification having problems on difficult terrain.....

but hopefyuly the ones who are present here, can explain the THEORY of skiing and answer my Qs?????
post #6 of 11
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Originally Posted by kubagr View Post
yaaaa, but realy the google is not very supportive of psia: stem Christie, parallel Christie and wedeln turns these are the base turns

nobody realy discus the differences and technical approach to how to teach them

what about :base christie, "slow-down" christie, acceleration christie, jet christie etc ???
(those words are dirrectly translated from german program)

anybody can realy describe the differences

BTW: I've seen MANY people holding PSIA certification having problems on difficult terrain.....

but hopefyuly the ones who are present here, can explain the THEORY of skiing and answer my Qs?????

really nobody is interrested in this stuff???
post #7 of 11
What exactly are these "turns" that you speak of?
Figure elevens baby!
post #8 of 11
I've heard it said that there are three types of turns.

Carved turns
Skidded turns
Edge set turns

Carved turns the tails follow the tips in a clean arc.
Skidded turns, the tail moves out to the side, think of the heel pushing out
Edge set turns are like linked hockey stops, good for short quick turns.

There are other types, and combinations of the above as well. eg. Scarved turns (skidded carves) hop turns and so on.
post #9 of 11
Does it really matter what kind of turn we are doing? Skiing to me is a mix of every turn that you have in your bag of tricks! Maybe all in the same run!

If a gaper blames his lack of skills on his gear and nobody is there to hear him, is his base bevel still all wrong? Hhmmm?
post #10 of 11
What's the diff between a smear and a slarve?
post #11 of 11
I once did some sweet stem-christies until I got up too much speed, then I busted out some open-track parallels in order to miss hitting a kids ski school group. Then I skied a bomb-ass black diamond where I impressed all the ladies with my stylie hop turns on the steeps. After that I did schmear turn in front of the cafeteria, followed by a dope hockey-stop! I RULE!!!
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