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post #121 of 149
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You Pee, thanks for quoting hundreds of words to post one line of trawltastic glee.
No problem. I actually quoted it because this thread was moving so fast at the time that I wanted to make sure people knew who I was answering.
How have things been in Texas? Pretty sweet I bet.
post #122 of 149
Well stated "Beyond" So much absurd commentary in this thread, few want to accept reality. Glad that you "get it."

In our experience a POC helmet breaks due to a defect, random gate hit, bad screws and chin guards (thats a new one to me!) it gets replaced no questions - POC has been nothing but supportive.

And I will state again- POC has already making some changes in the new helmets to address legitimate issues. To expect them to remain static and make no improvements given experience, feedback and new technologies is absurd as well.

Ok - now you can all continue....
post #123 of 149
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How have things been in Texas? Pretty sweet I bet.
Awesome. We are this close to finishing the SuperSnowDome. Say, taller than the biggest buildings or mountains in Minnesota...


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Originally Posted by srd
Well stated "Beyond" So much absurd commentary in this thread, few want to accept reality. Glad that you "get it."
I just refuted several off the wall assumptions and claims in that post. Odd sense of reality you have up there. You should wear a better helmet next time you go knocking yourself in the head...
post #124 of 149
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Originally Posted by srd View Post
Well stated "Beyond" So much absurd commentary in this thread, few want to accept reality. Glad that you "get it."

In our experience a POC helmet breaks due to a defect, random gate hit, bad screws and chin guards (thats a new one to me!) it gets replaced no questions - POC has been nothing but supportive.

And I will state again- POC has already making some changes in the new helmets to address legitimate issues. To expect them to remain static and make no improvements given experience, feedback and new technologies is absurd as well.

Ok - now you can all continue....
Hindsight is genius......if you and others don't get it then I really cant help you.
post #125 of 149
Hey Richie, is your Salomon helmet Snell certified?
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There's no way I will read all this thread.
I'm just here for an advice. I'm considering a helmet purchase the next season.
I'm considering this, (I'm so in touch with my feminine side)



Any advice ? Richie ?

Maybe in black ? Will the chicks dig it ? That and the manly xwing 8s ?

post #127 of 149
I wanna know how he guy in that picture is going to use his Avalung.
post #128 of 149
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Say, taller than the biggest buildings or mountains in Minnesota...
It must really bother you that you can't ski as good as a flatlander... Maybe we should race? Should I just meet you in your 'hood then we can drive the several hours to the ski area? Where do you live again? Arizona? Your location just says "your Mom" I'll admit, that's pretty clever. (if you're 13)
post #129 of 149
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Originally Posted by U.P. Racer View Post
"What is the most aggressive/angry looking ski goggles out there? I don't want the deer in headlights look, want something that looks like I am going to slay the mountain. Thanks"


"Basically when carving a high G turn my edges engage so forcefully that I am literally ejected from my path, sometimes tripping outwards (wipe out) and sometimes inwards, within my course (which is not so bad). My concerns have been prompted by my newly purchased race stock SL skis, with even more energy via liquid metal. Until now I have been using all mountain carvers and race stock GS skis." Launched in the air because of Liquidmetal?

"As of last season, I wear a full face helmet, back protection, and knee supports. (This is at all times I ski)

For racing I up it a bit with padded under shorts, armored gloves, and as of this coming season the standard SL guards for SL courses which I plan to get more involved in.

Two days ago I ordered one of these: www.brainpads.com.

I plan on buying some forearm guards for racing later this year (children's Adidas shin gaurds fit as if they were made for forearms).

I am also seriously considering wearing a leatt-brace neck protector. http://www.leatt-brace.com/" Isn't that a little over the top, bro???

I know what the problem is. ski's are too short. you didn't factor in the weight of all that stuff:
post #130 of 149
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Originally Posted by epic View Post
I wanna know how he guy in that picture is going to use his Avalung.
Hmm, I think I don't want to know...
post #131 of 149
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Originally Posted by Garrett View Post
Awesome. We are this close to finishing the SuperSnowDome. Say, taller than the biggest buildings or mountains in Minnesota...

I just refuted several off the wall assumptions and claims in that post. Odd sense of reality you have up there. You should wear a better helmet next time you go knocking yourself in the head...
When you can document and prove what I said was incorrect go for it- I am sure you know how POC deals with me and my customers better than I do!

As far as your "refuting" it flies in the face of virtually every industry position held on the subject and is in direct contradiction in the helmet engineers and medical consultants used. Those "off the wall" assumptions seem to be shared by the "documented" experts I have met over the years. What are your credentials in this area to refute their combined education, experience and knowledge? I am also unaware of any in-mold helmet that has a shell that wont crack, break or deform on an impact the level of Scotty Mac's hit or any other real world ski impact. Please enlighten me to the make and model which you refer to. Interesting how my "odd sense of reality" is shared by so many recognized experts.

Also please explain how a rigid unbreakable shell helmet without the energy absorption qualities of the POC helmet in question will reduce the amount of shock and energy transferred to the brain? Also by what means will this bombproof shell dissipate this energy yet remain light enough and with the proper low profile required by elite racers? I will be sure to offer this information to Jan and Stefan at POC- I promise!
post #132 of 149
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I am also unaware of any in-mold helmet that has a shell that wont crack, break or deform on an impact the level of Scotty Mac's hit or any other real world ski impact. Please enlighten me to the make and model which you refer to.
You must be out of your mind srd! Facts and documents in this thread?

This thread does not need no stinking facts and documents! Louder you scream here - more of an expert you are... :

cfr
post #133 of 149
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Originally Posted by srd View Post
I am also unaware of any in-mold helmet that has a shell that wont crack, break or deform on an impact the level of Scotty Mac's hit or any other real world ski impact. Please enlighten me to the make and model which you refer to. Interesting how my "odd sense of reality" is shared by so many recognized experts.

Also please explain how a rigid unbreakable shell helmet without the energy absorption qualities of the POC helmet in question will reduce the amount of shock and energy transferred to the brain? Also by what means will this bombproof shell dissipate this energy yet remain light enough and with the proper low profile required by elite racers? I will be sure to offer this information to Jan and Stefan at POC- I promise!
Now wait a minute. Just last week, while skiing on Mad Box at Hunter travelling my usual speed in excess of 100 mph, I hit a tree. This was the fourth tree that I hit at enormously high (but my normal skiing) speed since buying my Boeri rage helmet, it has not cracked yet, and I am every bit as intelligent as I was when I bought that used helmet 4 years ago. Matter of fact, I asked the swiss army ski team guy who put me on a board and carried me off the hill and he said he's "never seen anyone go so fast, and that helmet probably saved my life, for what it's worth."
If anyone wants to refute these facts, you can prove you're right by beating me in a demolition downhill, any time, anywhere.*

*as long as it's not naptime, and my mommy will drive me there.
post #134 of 149
Snell is an independent US body, and their testing is expensive.

Among motorcyclists "in the know," Snell certification is basically meaningless.
post #135 of 149
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There's no way I will read all this thread.
I'm just here for an advice. I'm considering a helmet purchase the next season.
I'm considering this, (I'm so in touch with my feminine side)

Absolutely A-W-E-S-O-M-E !!!
I want it badly, too badly! It will fit very, very well with my pink pants!


That will really do wonders to my feminine side!

Or Shall I look for the Knight Moves? Will I look more heroic? More appealing to my masculine side? Beside it will still match wit the pink pants...ehehehehe!

post #136 of 149
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Now wait a minute. Just last week, while skiing on Mad Box at Hunter travelling my usual speed in excess of 100 mph, I hit a tree.
Sissy. I ski at 188mph on a daily basis. God only knows how many trees I broke doing that... And, are you ready for this?, - no helmet!

Cheers,

cfr.
post #137 of 149
In all seriousness, even the OSBE model (with heli-pilot-like "googles") when came out looked way too excessive but it's been received well (at least here in Italy)
post #138 of 149
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Originally Posted by 2-turn View Post
Now wait a minute. Just last week, while skiing on Mad Box at Hunter travelling my usual speed in excess of 100 mph, I hit a tree. This was the fourth tree that I hit at enormously high (but my normal skiing) speed since buying my Boeri rage helmet, it has not cracked yet, and I am every bit as intelligent as I was when I bought that used helmet 4 years ago. Matter of fact, I asked the swiss army ski team guy who put me on a board and carried me off the hill and he said he's "never seen anyone go so fast, and that helmet probably saved my life, for what it's worth."
If anyone wants to refute these facts, you can prove you're right by beating me in a demolition downhill, any time, anywhere.*

*as long as it's not naptime, and my mommy will drive me there.
Hey if your from New Joisey its called Huntah.
post #139 of 149
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Originally Posted by Nobody View Post
In all seriousness, even the OSBE model (with heli-pilot-like "googles") when came out looked way too excessive but it's been received well (at least here in Italy)
you mean this?



this one's even better as it has a speaker and a microphone. : :

post #140 of 149
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Originally Posted by 2-turn View Post
Matter of fact, I asked the swiss army ski team guy who put me on a board and carried me off the hill and he said he's "never seen anyone go so fast, and that helmet probably saved my life, for what it's worth."
I always wondered who those guys were. Do they all come from Switzerland or just the jackets?
post #141 of 149
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Originally Posted by U.P. Racer View Post
It must really bother you that you can't ski as good as a flatlander... Maybe we should race?
We can race if you want. I'd sure hope you could beat me...if I lived where you live I'd run a lot of gates too. That isn't hyperbole btw, its just fact. I get distracted by all the other stuff to do here.

I'd be glad to ski with you. I think this stuff is hilarious...but it isn't serious.

srd is just funny. I get him all pissed off and finally the royal we disappears. Well, mission accomplished I guess.
post #142 of 149
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Originally Posted by Garrett View Post
if I lived where you live I'd run a lot of gates too. That isn't hyperbole btw, its just fact. I get distracted by all the other stuff to do here.
Yeah, that's a fact too! I've often said if I grew up in the mountains, I may have never become a racer. Oh well... it keeps me sharp for my western trips.

I'll be at Squaw the first week in April... I'll meet ya there. We'll race down KT-22 with one ski. Winner gets TWO DOLLARS!!!
post #143 of 149
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Originally Posted by Blue Ox View Post
you mean this?



this one's even better as it has a speaker and a microphone. : :

Yep, those ones. A ski-related magazine is even putting it as a prize in a
contest it's holding (about recognizing a mountain location from its picture...)
post #144 of 149
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Originally Posted by Blue Ox View Post
you mean this?



this one's even better as it has a speaker and a microphone. : :

Yes, I've seen a couple of those in the Espace Killy. I've tried one in a shop. What a piece of junk... The screen wouldn't stay put raised, flimsy work, nowhere near the quality of the bike helmets it derives its look from.

Those look dorky too, but are well built !





Nobody ?
You should go with pink. It would be a bold statement of your open-mindedness and alternative lifestyle. ()
The Black Knight is cool, but the red parts would clash with your pants. Pink + red = no good.
OTOH, it would totally rule with this fartbag :




Hmm, decisions...
post #145 of 149
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Originally Posted by philippeR View Post
Nobody ?
You should go with pink. It would be a bold statement of your open-mindedness and alternative lifestyle. ()
The Black Knight is cool, but the red parts would clash with your pants. Pink + red = no good.
OTOH, it would totally rule with this fartbag :




Hmm, decisions...
Ehe, those pink pants and the matching jacket are now de-commissioned, but thanks to this thread I might take ot out of the cupboard and actually wear it while skiing.
I looked at the ruroc colours and, while the black model makes you look like Darth Vader, all other colors remind me of the Power Rangers...
Ahr ahr ahr.
We'll see if those have success, if the product is safe and warm, well, I wish them success (but it costs a fortune at 190 GBP !!!!!), why not?
As for the ex-spice...well, celebs are like that. Isn't it?
post #146 of 149
There are probably pros and cons with the different standards and I don't think it as black or white as your debate, here.

I just came over an article, worth reading, for those of you who are interested in more information.

Check: http://www.motorcyclistonline.com/ge...iew/index.html
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I just found this thread.  [I skipped over most of the ranting / raving.]  Thanks for the excellent link, SavvyCali.  I feel better informed now.

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post #149 of 149
So, once every three years around the same time of year, someone is going to wake up this helmet thread? 3/08, 2/11, and now 3/14.
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