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post #61 of 83
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Originally Posted by c1er View Post
Jack Frost - It was a race day though, so there were a lot of Ski Moms there.

I know it only has 600 ' vertical, but what's the point if a mountain has more and they split their trails into upper and lower? And I skied right onto the chair every run Sat and Sun morning.
I grew up skiing JF. I haven't been there in years, but the place always had a nice vibe.
post #62 of 83
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Originally Posted by yetidave View Post
I grew up skiing JF. I haven't been there in years, but the place always had a nice vibe.
When? I am from that area and knew a bunch that skied Frost and Boulder.
post #63 of 83
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Originally Posted by Philpug View Post
When? I am from that area and knew a bunch that skied Frost and Boulder.
'83-'91ish. I'm starting to go back there for the nostalgia.
post #64 of 83

trust and the fraternity of skiers

my experience is that the preponderance of theft is professional ski thieves (skis by the dozen) and employees (poor people surrounded by opulence, not to generalize, though), not skiers, (though there are opportunists among skiers, people that will pick something up without premeditation).

My kid and I have had stuff stolen, usually in an area adjacent to the parking lot, or things placed at the base of the lift. I once put my pack under the chair so a person would not if the owner was watching. I saw some teens going to pick it up so, stupidly, I said, "Hey! what are you doing?" they waited till I was farther up the lift (they had now identified the owner), and took the pack.

So I guess that fills in a couple more ideas that don't work. sorry. better luck.

remember, I was corrected for referring to the concept of Karma (mentioned again in this thread in a post above) when I was really saying that what goes around comes around. I imagine that guy with your goggles may not see a big a#& rock through those lenses.
post #65 of 83
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Originally Posted by yetidave View Post
'83-'91ish. I'm starting to go back there for the nostalgia.
So, you know the Knize's, Braithwaite's, De Long's, De Roo's, Burowski's, ect?
post #66 of 83
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Originally Posted by Philpug View Post
So, you know the Knize's, Braithwaite's, De Long's, De Roo's, Burowski's, ect?
I skied there, I didn't live there and I tended to ski alone. Although Braithwaite does sound familiar.
post #67 of 83
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Originally Posted by Philpug View Post
Where is Bob Peters..he has a classic story.
Oh, you mean about the time Franz Klammer ripped off my skis.
post #68 of 83
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Originally Posted by Bob Peters View Post
Oh, you mean about the time Franz Klammer ripped off my skis.
Yeah... that one.
post #69 of 83
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Originally Posted by Philpug View Post
Yeah... that one.
You brought a smile to my face, Phil. It's still fun thinking about that.

A: I'm honored that he would have chosen my skis to make off with.

and

B: He was kind enough to return them.

Win/win.
post #70 of 83
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Originally Posted by Bob Peters View Post
You brought a smile to my face, Phil. It's still fun thinking about that.

A: I'm honored that he would have chosen my skis to make off with.

and

B: He was kind enough to return them.

Win/win.
You better either add or link the story.

BTW, you better find a way to ski with me this time at Jackson.
post #71 of 83
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Originally Posted by Philpug View Post
You better either add or link the story.

BTW, you better find a way to ski with me this time at Jackson.
I will DEFINITELY ski with you this time. Done deal!

As to the story, here it is. The crazy thing is that as I re-read this post, I realized that I didn't even mention that Bode WON the Beaver Creek WC Downhill that I was watching when the skis disappeared. That was Bode's first win on Head skis.

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Guess Who Stole My Skis?
I had the craziest experience this past weekend in Beaver Creek.

We went there for a friend's wedding, and by a nice coincidence I was able to watch the Men's Downhill on Friday. I took a brand-new pair of Head SuperShapes along.

So here's what happened...

Friday as I was going into the grandstand area, I left my skis leaning at about a 45-degree angle against a fence next to a couple of the free swag booths. I left them leaning diagonally so I could tell mine from everybody else's skis that were mostly standing vertically. I also put my pole straps around them just to keep the whole package together.

As I was leaving after the race, my skis weren't EXACTLY where I thought they were, but there was a pair of Head SuperShapes, with the pole straps looped around them, leaning at a 45-degree angle, just about where the should be, so I walked away with them, figuring it was just one more example of my short-term memory failure.

I clicked into them (no problem) and skied off for the rest of the afternoon.

The next morning, we're riding the shuttle bus to the base and I notice that my graphite poles say "Head" on them.

Uh oh!

MY poles aren't Head poles. What are these poles doing in my hands? :

When we get off the bus, I look closely at my skis. Same ski, same size, same binding... BUT... THESE skis didn't have the little bar code sticker that I hadn't had time to remove from MY skis. I had the wrong skis (and poles).:

Well, at this point I figure it's a case of mistaken identity and I remember the fact that "my" skis hadn't been exactly where I thought they should be the day before.

I knew that Head had a VIP booth at the base of the ski area, so I headed over there. I explained to the first guy I came to that I had somebody else's skis.

He goes "Oh, yeah. We had a whole bunch of them get mixed up yesterday afternoon. I think Hans has yours."

Okay, I say, how do I find Hans?

"Well, here he comes now."

So Hans starts telling me that he DOESN'T have my skis but he was part of the mixup. Hans thinks that "Klammer" has them. So Hans and the first guy are talking back and forth about how to track them down and they keep talking about where Klammer might be.

Finally, I go "When you say "Klammer", do you mean FRANZ KLAMMER?"

"Yeah."

Whoa.

They go on to say that they think Franz may have started the whole chain reaction by picking up mine by mistake and skiing off with them. He figured it out later, the same way I did, by suddenly seeing that the poles were different. He felt so bad that he even called the police to tell them he had somebody's skis by mistake.

Okay, I say, how do we find Franz?

"Oh! Here he comes now!"

So, there's Franz Klammer walking across the base area carrying MY skis and poles. We get introduced, he apologizes, I apologize, and I'm re-united with my skis, which now had THIS sticker, which his hotel put on them when they stored them for the night:




The greatest thing is that I swear the skis ski even better now than they did before the Kaiser skied on them. I think a little of Franz's magic rubbed off on them.
post #72 of 83
Good lord, what an amazing story. And I remember exactly where I was watching when Bode won that race. I was eating dinner in the Poconos, right down the street from Jack Frost. The whole place went nuts when he won.
post #73 of 83
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Originally Posted by at_nyc View Post
You got me. You lost a pair of skis that were locked up. But you still insist to lock them up. What's the logic?
I assume you were speaking to me...

That particular time, I spent some HOURS inside. Being older now, it's just for lunch and it's daylight, etc. If I was going to hit the bars, they'd be in my locker.
post #74 of 83
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Originally Posted by Bob Peters View Post
You brought a smile to my face, Phil. It's still fun thinking about that.

A: I'm honored that he would have chosen my skis to make off with.

and

B: He was kind enough to return them.

Win/win.
Bob;

You ARE a ROCK STAR!
That's kind of like having Billy Kidd steal your cowboy hat.

Did you offer Franz any of your unsolicited NO FUN SKIING IS SERIOUS BUSINESS lessons and gear advice?

Seriously though, I was gonna add Franz, Billy Kidd, and Bill Johnson to my people to ride the lift with but someone killed the thread
post #75 of 83
Any thoughts on how effective splitting up a pair of skis is in stopping theft? Has anyone ever heard of a pair of split-up skis being stolen?
post #76 of 83
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Originally Posted by krp8128 View Post
I've got the same one, made by Krypton.
I can open the Kryptonite brand cable lock in about 10 seconds if you give me a few minutes of practice with one first.
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Originally Posted by Sailor
Has anyone ever heard of a pair of split-up skis being stolen?
Yes, a mismatched set with lengths about 20cm different, my bud and his dad, about 10 years ago at Killington.

That is one awesome story from Bob. Too cool.
post #77 of 83
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Originally Posted by Garrett View Post
I can open the Kryptonite brand cable lock in about 10 seconds if you give me a few minutes of practice with one first.
Not the new ones, or retrofitted ones; they fixed that absurd design flaw.
post #78 of 83
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Originally Posted by yetidave View Post
Good lord, what an amazing story. And I remember exactly where I was watching when Bode won that race. I was eating dinner in the Poconos, right down the street from Jack Frost. The whole place went nuts when he won.
Right down the street from JF? You wern't in High Elevations were you?
post #79 of 83
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Originally Posted by Gonz View Post
Do you all think that leaving skiis outside at mid-mountain chalets is a little safer, since someone can't just grab em and walk to their car? I mean, they'd have to have boots that just happen to fit your bindings and then what would they do with the skis that got them there...
for this reason, i usually choose to only take breaks at mid mountain or higher lodges.

if i got to put my equipment in the rack, i usually tangle it up in my ski pole straps to make it harder for someone to just swipe them and run. then again, my skis are getting so beat up and well used that if someone really has to have them, they are going to get them....
post #80 of 83
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Originally Posted by Stan from Pa View Post
Three years ago my wife had a pair of Volants taken from one of the midmountain lodges at Alta. There was another pair of Volants, similar, but far from an exact match, near where her skis had been. After waiting for a couple of hours to see if hers were returned, she took the other pair, which fit on her boots perfectly, turned them in at the Alta office, and told her story. About a week later someone realized they had the wrong skis, had the sense to go to the Alta office, and swapped them back. By this time, we had gone home, but Alta shipped my wife's skis to her.

I was somewhat upset at my wife for taking the "other" skis without first reporting her suspicions about the swap to some authority, but all was well that ended well.

On the "down" side, she rented skis for the rest of the week that she liked much better, got spoiled, and wanted better skis.
happened to 2 people I knew. both were innocent mix ups. one friend was 5 foot tall and she skied on 140's. who would steal those? at the end of the day, her skis were missing but a near identical pair was in the rack. about 30 minutes or so, a parent and her kid showed up and exchanged skis.

another time, we had lunch and my sister couldn;t find here rental skis. sure enough by end of the day, 1 pair of exactly the same model was left in the rack. ruined her afternoon which sucked but i hope she learned her lesson not to take breaks at the base area of a crowded ski area.
post #81 of 83
Interesting stuff. I work part time at a ski shop and on the "courtesy patrol" of a small PA ski area. The area has a free ski check. After a night of skiing, I checked my skis for the 10 minutes it took me to change. I usually throw my stuff in the back of the ski shop. When I handed the "guy" my ticket, he returned with a pair of skis and said "are these yours, man?" White with blue flowers...I don't think so. Mine were fairly new Rossi Z3's and were gone. The ski area accepted responsibility and paid for new skis...I added a few bucks and upgraded to the Z9.

What happened was the check guy gave my skis to another customer. She had kids and an armload of skis and didn't notice one more pair. She returned them (minus the Leki poles) 10 days later...after I had my new skis. Now the ski area is trying to sell the Z3's.

This actually happened at least 2 or 3 more times to other people since then. I don't get it...this isn't rocket science. They now made the ski check workers responsible for their screwups and some quit, which was expected. I also suggested they pay the check guys a little more for added responsibility and administer a test...like counting to 30.
post #82 of 83
I had a pair of gloves stolen at Hunter a few weeks ago.
When I stopped into a local ski shop to buy new ones, a Hunter employee was there hanging out; he overheard me speaking to someone and told me that there have been a lot of thefts there lately.
post #83 of 83
I have a few generalizations about most people who frequent Wachusett but I'll keep them to myself.

Anyway, the guy who stole your stuff will probably to continue to swipe things until he's caught. Unfortunately, you probably don't suffer from conjunctivitis or head lice.
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