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Smith Phenom Turbo Fan Goggles!

post #1 of 20
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There is sooooooo much more to this story than skiing goggles.
A very long time ago(I want to say 17 years ago) my husband bought some goggles to ride dirtbike that had a fan in them. He paid 98.00 for them and I nearly had a stroke. Back then decent dirtbike goggles could be had for 20.00.
He argued that, with his glasses he was fogging up all the time and these goggles would pay for themselves in busted dirt bike parts and his busted body because he'd quite hitting the trees if he could see.
He was right!! He quit hitting trees. His injuries reduced and his bike wasn't beaten up so badly. After that, I made it a point to see to it that he had/has a functioning pair of Smith Turbo Fan Goggles before dirtbiking season starts, which he, now, uses to ski as well.

Fast forward to Stowe 2007:
I'd never experienced powder like this. I know its not a big deal to those of you who get 2 ft at a time, but 18 inches was amazing to this Michigan girl.
First of all, I made a mistake of getting moisture in my Smith Anthem goggles at the beginning of the day. I like the Anthems which have an amazing lens for flat light, they fit my face well, and I like the peripheral vision they offer, but don't fit my helmet well. The moisture was a big no no to begin with, then I fell and my goggles got more snow and moisture in them. Now, frozen and zero visibility, I left my ESA Group to go get goggles.
On my way in, my phone rang, it was my husband, asking me how much fun I was having. I told him I was on a mission to get new goggles, to which he said, "Get the turbo goggles! You will never regret it!"

I did, $180!!!:
It nearly killed me to pay retail, at a ski resort, no less, but I was desperate and my husband urged me to take the leap.

I will NEVER wear a pair of goggles that don't have a fan again!!
The only down side to these is the loss of peripheral vision(though its a minimal loss) that the Anthem offered.
I may play around with the lens because I'm not sure this lens is the best for the flat light we get in Michigan so often, but I know the fan keeps the moisture out and made the blind woman see!!!:
post #2 of 20
I got a pair with the Sensor lenses off of SAC this past summer. Since you paid over $120 more, I won't mention how much they were. I have used them twice with no problems. The 2-speed fan is powered by a single AAA battery which has lasted two days of use so far. The fan is unobtrusive and does not seem to have much of a weight penalty and does keep air moving out of the googles to prevent fogging. I started using a helmet with a visor, and the venting system works just fine, even with the restricted space and close fit at the top of the goggle.

Good call on the review Trek.
post #3 of 20
There are two and only two types of skiers--

Those whose goggles fog.

Those whose goggles don't fog.

Don't know why this is. It just is. For some reason I was in the first group when I was young and sometime 15-20 years ago, I just flipped to the second group.

I guess only group two need consider active goggle ventilation.
post #4 of 20
I ski in the Phenom (non-turbo) with the Sensor mirror lense. I have found the Sensor mirror to be a fabulous all around lense and the best in flat-light I have found.

I ski in a full race helmet (Briko) and have had no problem whatsoever here in the damp Pacific Northwest with the Phenom fogging. the Phenom lenses has a sliding vent at the upper edge of the lenses to control airflow.

Although the Fan can't hurt, the added expense and goofing around with the batteries is kind of a pain. Also the whole battery switch unit is kind of cheesy and I have had problems with the wires and switch shorting out & running intermittenly on my Turbos.

I also own the Knowledge Turbo with the Sensor mirror but prefer the smaller Phenom frame.

the Turbos have a 2 speed fan. You are supposed to run it on low constantly and only use the high speed if you need to clear the goggles.

A must to have in your pocket is a smith Snow Eraser (sponge one side, chamois on the other) and a Smith anti -fog cloth. But you must not wipe the inner lense when it is wet.
post #5 of 20
I got a pair off SAC last summer for my son who always fogs his goggles. Mixed results so far. They seem to be less fog prone to start with but when he tries to use the switch the sliding lock always seems to get set and it's really hard to move. Also, he's had the battery door come open once dumping the battery in the snow.
post #6 of 20
If your goggles are fogging, you aren't skiing fast enough....
post #7 of 20
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Originally Posted by stevesmith7 View Post
I got a pair off SAC last summer for my son who always fogs his goggles. Mixed results so far. They seem to be less fog prone to start with but when he tries to use the switch the sliding lock always seems to get set and it's really hard to move. Also, he's had the battery door come open once dumping the battery in the snow.
there is a switch lock on the top of the batery/switch unit. This is so youo can put the fan on low and lock it. In order to easily move to high you must move the lock to unlock and then move the fan speed switch. He didn't have the battery door shut all the way to begin with!

I find it hard to believe he is getting foggy goggles with Smith double lenses. He is doing something
post #8 of 20
Thread Starter 
First of all Cirque, I bought a pair for my husband on SAC, because I didn't need them. Silly me!
So, I am pained greatly for the extra I paid, but I was in the moment and took the leap.
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Originally Posted by Lonnie View Post
If your goggles are fogging, you aren't skiing fast enough....
True Dat!
I wasn't moving! Didn't you read the story? I was laying in a huge dump of powder!!!

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Originally Posted by stevesmith7 View Post
I got a pair off SAC last summer for my son who always fogs his goggles. Mixed results so far. They seem to be less fog prone to start with but when he tries to use the switch the sliding lock always seems to get set and it's really hard to move. Also, he's had the battery door come open once dumping the battery in the snow.
What A man said about the lock is what I was going to say, but also, the pair I got on SAC seemed to be a tad different then those I got at Stowe. The slide switch seems to be a little easier to "slide" on mine than my husbands.
His old pair of Turbo Goggles had a larger battery pack on the side and only one setting. The fan on his old pair(motorsport style) has a fully enclosed housing, and the motor is quite a bit noisier.

Also my battery is the original one and I've used it at least 6 days off and on(fan not on all the time).

Another idea about fogging. The little white dot you see on the goggles needs to be left alone. It is part of the design to eliminate fog.

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Originally Posted by Atomicman View Post
I ski in the Phenom (non-turbo) with the Sensor mirror lense. I have found the Sensor mirror to be a fabulous all around lense and the best in flat-light I have found.

I ski in a full race helmet (Briko) and have had no problem whatsoever here in the damp Pacific Northwest with the Phenom fogging. the Phenom lenses has a sliding vent at the upper edge of the lenses to control airflow.

Although the Fan can't hurt, the added expense and goofing around with the batteries is kind of a pain. Also the whole battery switch unit is kind of cheesy and I have had problems with the wires and switch shorting out & running intermittenly on my Turbos.

I also own the Knowledge Turbo with the Sensor mirror but prefer the smaller Phenom frame.

the Turbos have a 2 speed fan. You are supposed to run it on low constantly and only use the high speed if you need to clear the goggles.

A must to have in your pocket is a smith Snow Eraser (sponge one side, chamois on the other) and a Smith anti -fog cloth. But you must not wipe the inner lense when it is wet.
post #9 of 20
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Originally Posted by Trekchick View Post
Didn't you read the story?
Ummm, no. (sorry!)
post #10 of 20
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by Lonnie View Post
Ummm, no. (sorry!)
Trust me, it was a photo opportunity and no one got a pic!!!
post #11 of 20
One reason some people get foggy goggles is that they are not keeping them on when wearing, they flip them up on the chairlift etc.
post #12 of 20
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Originally Posted by newf1946 View Post
One reason some people get foggy goggles is that they are not keeping them on when wearing, they flip them up on the chairlift etc.
I have not experienced this but i wear a helmet. this only happens if you wear a hat and have moisture coming through your hat.

I flipped my Smith Phenom non-turbo up all day last monday and switched to sunglasses in the lift line they never fogged once!
post #13 of 20
I really like my TurboFan goggles. I didn't like the Sensor Mirror lens at all and much prefer the amber lens. Note the lifetime warranty...this is my third pair. The first two were older TurboFan models that had battery holder or switch problems, and were replaced under the warranty with no questions asked. That single AAA battery lasts several days running slow all the time.
post #14 of 20
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Another thing you may notice is the difference between the snow goggles and the motorsport goggles.
My husbands Old pair has a button on the top of the goggle right in front of the fan, he just hits that button to turn it on. No Hi, Lo, Off, just on and off.
He is not happy with the new style slide switch.
post #15 of 20
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Originally Posted by newf1946 View Post
One reason some people get foggy goggles is that they are not keeping them on when wearing, they flip them up on the chairlift etc.

I've had the original Turbos for somewhere in the neighborhood of 8 or 9 years. They are lifesavers for those us who are sweaters. I have taken a heap of crap for wearing "gimmick" goggles, but they work really well.

The problem with the old style turbos is they utilizes the "slider" regulator vent lenses which had a switch that opened and closed air vents at the top of the lense. You can no longer find that style replacement lense and are forced to use the replacement lenses that have permanently open vent holes. They are great at slow and mid range speeds, but whenever you crank up the speed your eyes willstart to water. I switched goggles last week and love being able to see clearly when I hit 30+ miles an hour.

I have heard the new version is better than the old version. If so, I highly reccomend them to anyone who fogs goggles on a regular or intermittent basis.
post #16 of 20
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Originally Posted by Trekchick View Post
Another thing you may notice is the difference between the snow goggles and the motorsport goggles.
My husbands Old pair has a button on the top of the goggle right in front of the fan, he just hits that button to turn it on. No Hi, Lo, Off, just on and off.
He is not happy with the new style slide switch.
Hmmm... like your husband, I have an old set of Smith Turbo fan goggles from motocross several years ago. They have no lens and I have not used them in years but I just pulled them out and threw a battery in them and the fan works. Seems to be the same model your husband has, with the battery pack on the strap and the switch above the lens.
I am pretty new to skiing having gone only a few time, but I have really picked it up this year and am loving it. I have been having a ton of trouble with my glasses fogging up under my goggles while skiiing and have resorted to just skiing with my prescription sunglasses. Thanks for you post as it gave me an idea... now to see if I can find a lens :
post #17 of 20
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Originally Posted by Laurentianskier View Post
Hmmm... like your husband, I have an old set of Smith Turbo fan goggles from motocross several years ago. They have no lens and I have not used them in years but I just pulled them out and threw a battery in them and the fan works. Seems to be the same model your husband has, with the battery pack on the strap and the switch above the lens.
I am pretty new to skiing having gone only a few time, but I have really picked it up this year and am loving it. I have been having a ton of trouble with my glasses fogging up under my goggles while skiiing and have resorted to just skiing with my prescription sunglasses. Thanks for you post as it gave me an idea... now to see if I can find a lens :
I would highly advise you to get contacts!

I was forced to use Smith Ocular docking system in Turbo goggles for a season due to Glaucoma surgery.This is a system of prescription lenses specially designed to fit in Smith goggles, where the lenses hang between your face and the goggle lenses so there are no earpieces. It was next to impossible to keep them from fogging or accumulating water droplets.

i did come across a very industrial strength anti-fog application. It was an improvement, but a lot of fuusing around and not perfect. It is called Fog-Tech and comes in individual packets with a solution soaked cloth (maybe some kind of paper) inside that you use once and dispose of. You can carry x-tras in you pocket and reapply if needed at lunch. I still use fog-Tech on my sport glasses when i play tennis. One of the choices is a package that contains 12 boxes with 5 packets each for $54.00.

REI also carries it.

http://www.fogtech.com/

Soft contacts are unequivocally the way to go if you can wear them!!
post #18 of 20
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by Laurentianskier View Post
Hmmm... like your husband, I have an old set of Smith Turbo fan goggles from motocross several years ago. They have no lens and I have not used them in years but I just pulled them out and threw a battery in them and the fan works. Seems to be the same model your husband has, with the battery pack on the strap and the switch above the lens.
I am pretty new to skiing having gone only a few time, but I have really picked it up this year and am loving it. I have been having a ton of trouble with my glasses fogging up under my goggles while skiiing and have resorted to just skiing with my prescription sunglasses. Thanks for you post as it gave me an idea... now to see if I can find a lens :
If you can't find the lens' let me know, I may have a few extras around here.
post #19 of 20
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Originally Posted by Atomicman View Post
I would highly advise you to get contacts!

I was forced to use Smith Ocular docking system in Turbo goggles for a season due to Glaucoma surgery.This is a system of prescription lenses specially designed to fit in Smith goggles, where the lenses hang between your face and the goggle lenses so there are no earpieces. It was next to impossible to keep them from fogging or accumulating water droplets.

i did come across a very industrial strength anti-fog application. It was an improvement, but a lot of fuusing around and not perfect. It is called Fog-Tech and comes in individual packets with a solution soaked cloth (maybe some kind of paper) inside that you use once and dispose of. You can carry x-tras in you pocket and reapply if needed at lunch. I still use fog-Tech on my sport glasses when i play tennis. One of the choices is a package that contains 12 boxes with 5 packets each for $54.00.

REI also carries it.

http://www.fogtech.com/

Soft contacts are unequivocally the way to go if you can wear them!!
Sadly, I can't wear contacts. I raced motocross and motorcycle ice racing for many years and always had to deal with the vision issues.... hence the Turbos. Still considering laser eye correction but until then I may try reviving the old goggle LOL!
post #20 of 20
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Originally Posted by Trekchick View Post
If you can't find the lens' let me know, I may have a few extras around here.
Thanks! I will keep that in mind
Going to head to the stores this week to see if I can find lenses. I had several sets of Turbo fan goggles over the years and think I picked up these in 1988 or so... the last set I bought. As I remember I got them for a great price at the bike dealership I worked at part time. They could not sell them because the goggles are pink! This should look good...
But they worked for me for years and I am sure they will again LOL!
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