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post #1 of 17
Thread Starter 
Ok, I'm an expert skier heading out to Utah's LCC and BCC the first weekend of February. I'm looking for insight into some of the mountains' challenging terrain, steeps, and deep snow.

What are some trails or areas that I must ski?

For example:
If you were heading to Stowe, VT I would tell you to head into the woods off of chin clip and traverse past the bench to angel food. The trees open up, the gulley catches powder, and there are some great cliffs in there.
-or-
If you were heading to jay peak, VT I would point you in the direction of the beaver pond. Half way down Ullr's Dream duck into the woods. Climb for less than five minutes to the boundary marker and then head in. The prevailing winds drop the pow right into these very thin woods. No one wants the very small hike so it is skied fairly lightly.

Thanks for sharing,

asland
post #2 of 17
Thread Starter 
come on....

You're all willing to play travel agent and answer 11,670,456 of the same old questions about lodging and rental car recommendations but no one is willing to talk skiing?

I'm not asking for state secrets just some information on where to begin my own exploration.

asland
post #3 of 17
In LCC, Snowbird and Alta both have some incredible terrain. At Snowbird, the entire Cirque area is awesome with some great chutes/bowls off of it. Mineral Basin is also one giant bowl and the Bookends in it deserves some attention. At Alta, I'm a big fan of the stuff under the Supreme lift and Catherine's Area.

In BCC, Brighton has some great sidecountry. Also check out Snake Creek Bowl. At Solitude, Honeycomb Canyon has some awesome chutes and trees.
post #4 of 17

Beg for it...

At Snowbird, Mineral Basin take the Trail to Paradise and find the Bookend Traverse, follow it to the end. Hike up about 5 minutes and enjoy.
From the Tram, anything connected with the Cirque, with in your abilities, of course. You can also head towards the top of Little Cloud and take the Road to Provo into Gad Valley, from here the choices are yours.
I personally like STH off Gad 2, especially when its soft.
As I've heard, if you can see it, you can ski it.
Someone else will need to fill you in about Alta.
post #5 of 17
show up to the gathering and I'm pretty sure you'll find out by following everyone.

Some hardcore trails at Alta: Backside, Gunsight, High Rustler and Catherine's. Then again you might have trouble finding the trails because they require some traversing or climbing. Also the Wildcat area holds snow nicely and is oft overlooked. Devils Castle everyone seems to line up and pound after a fresh snow so I tend to skip it. But you should probably do it at some point. It takes at least 20 mins of high altitude traverse to get to the goods though. If you can't do it (if you're not in shape), don't hold up the line or Jer will curse you relentlessly .

Solli - do Honeycomb - with the new lift you can lap that place and there's likely to be powshots in there days after a storm. But you have to look a little to find them. Last time we found out from a local and he showed us some hip deep pow in there a few days after the storm. That doesn't tend to happen at Alta/bird because things get skied and ripped up. Also Solitude has some great tree skiing in Headwall and off the main lift Parachute and on either side, can't remember the names.

SB - follow BW if you can keep up . Some I did last time that were great were the Cirque and Gad area (it's north facing and thus keeps the snow nice). I still haven't skied Mineral although that's supposed to be good too. There's a world of lift-served skiing at SB and plenty of steeps and snow.
post #6 of 17
At Alta I enjoyed the simple traverse off of the Collins chair out to Yellow Tail (trail?). An awesome wide open face. Ski half of it then take a left over to East Greeley. Just gorgeous.

Snowbird....I loved Mineral Basin. Huge and all out gorgeous. Little Cloud Bowl was very impressive as well.

asland.....Don't stress. When you get there you simply cannot believe the choices you'll have. It is a skiers heaven in Utah.

I really wanted to ski Gunsight and High Rustler when I was at Alta. It didn't happen but, I have no complaints with the terrain I did ski. Absolutely out of this world.

Good luck and enjoy!!
post #7 of 17
Thread Starter 
Thanks for the great information. I've got my trail maps and markers out and am getting a plan of attack. I am stoked.

Sugaree, Not stressed. More like excited for this. I've skied Alta last year in late January so know the routes are endless and know how many wide open great spots there are. The snow was not that great though but goods could be found. High rustler skied well but the traverse out was very sketchy. We traversed way out on Devil's Castle (Jer would have been proud of me) and hiked east castle to find great soft snow. It was warm though and the trails that got sun during the afternoon were crusty the next day. So, the areas to ski powder were very limited. I am looking forward to getting back to exploring the rest of the mountain.

Ct5, I am going to get together for some of the gathering but am out there a few days early and will do some skiing before it. I'll see you there, though.

Any one have any experiences on Baldy Chutes at Alta?
I'd love to hear more about mineral basin at snowbird?

keep it coming...

thanks,

asland
post #8 of 17
re: Snowbird - for some of the sweetest snow on the mtn, show your skills under the Gad II lift. Of course you will take a few runs in Little Cloud bowl and Mineral Basin. But, for the real challenge, check out the cirque ridge on the way up the tram. For your first run down, follow the rocky travese on the ridge, looking over the steep chutes, until you reach the wide bowl halfway down. Snowbird is an experts skiers paradise! There are a couple dozen sets of "experts-only" gates strung throughout the mtn, findind and skiing some of them should keep you plenty busy for the day.
post #9 of 17
Snowbird -

1. Nirvanna - one of the longest pitches on the whole mountain. comes off the back side of the cirque traverse and go thought chutes, fields, and trees untill you end up right above mid gad lift.

2. North Baldy - you get to ski the same steep, cliffed face as the Big Mountain guys albeit with out as much speed or air time.

3. Silver Fox - steep no nononsense skiing right off the top, generally gets tracked out quickly but the snow is so shelter its never gets hards.

4. South Chute - first open chute on skier left of the cirque traverse after the carpenter cliffs, steeper and longer than anything else off the traverse. often overlooked by others

5.Thunder Bowl if its is open, 2000 vertical feet of powder tree skiing that is steep enough said.

6. Gad 2 area as a whole - steep, treed, and north facing Gad 2's terrain holds some of the best snow on the mountain.

7. Rasta Chutes (aka tanner hall chutes) more of run than a chute, rasta chutes is below the twins and hold some great north facing snow that is shelterd from the wind.

8.Chip's Run - the fastest 3000 vertical feet on the mountain sometimes when the snow is rough and you want grooming this a great break run.

9.Great Scott - one of our most well know 'steep" runs. Its actualy quite easy besides getting in.

10. The bookends - the only good snow in mineral basin requires some traversing and short sidestep to get to. Some sweet cliffs as well.


stuff that doesnt make it and why.

Mineral Basin - south facing with normally crap snow conditions or bad light, quite often on many days its the worst skiing on mountain. Now if its untracked, and bluebird and the lines isnt long by all means drop in.

regulator Johnson - some of the worst conditions again, good run when the snow is alright. The east coast like ice you get on this thing makes it scarier than most other runs here.
post #10 of 17
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Originally Posted by asland View Post
come on....

You're all willing to play travel agent and answer 11,670,456 of the same old questions about lodging and rental car recommendations but no one is willing to talk skiing?

I'm not asking for state secrets just some information on where to begin my own exploration.

asland
No, but you will post two stashed at Stowe and Jay??? :

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Originally Posted by asland View Post
Ok, I'm an expert skier heading out to Utah's LCC and BCC the first weekend of February. I'm looking for insight into some of the mountains' challenging terrain, steeps, and deep snow.

What are some trails or areas that I must ski?

For example:
If you were heading to Stowe, VT I would tell you to head into the woods off of chin clip and traverse past the bench to angel food. The trees open up, the gulley catches powder, and there are some great cliffs in there.
-or-
If you were heading to jay peak, VT I would point you in the direction of the beaver pond. Half way down Ullr's Dream duck into the woods. Climb for less than five minutes to the boundary marker and then head in. The prevailing winds drop the pow right into these very thin woods. No one wants the very small hike so it is skied fairly lightly.

Thanks for sharing,

asland
post #11 of 17
asland.....I thought the way you put your question out there was very fair. Give a little, take a little.

philpug.....Life is best when shared.
Not only did asland give a little......you posted it again in BIG BLACK LETTERS for all to see. I'll use that when I am at Stowe the last week of February.
post #12 of 17
This is a recycle because I'm too lazy to re-type. It was written for powder days, but is still valid. (Found again by using the <search> function....)

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Originally Posted by Lonnie View Post
How you ski Alta on a powder day depends on what you are looking for. If you want to be in the full on feeding frenzy then hit Collins and stick with Collins. No matter what your plan, I would start there, at least for 3 or 4 runs. Work the lines of the high traverse skiing farther and farther out each time (never skip powder for powder). Ski all the way to the bottom, (don't waste time looking for a chair at the 1/2 station.) Also, don't overlook lines like "Freds trees and Freds slot. These are just to skiers left of the Collins chair off main street. Or, follow the high T all the way out to the pass and hit Greely bowl (You'll have to come back to collins via the transfer tow). Traverse back over towards gunsite (skiers right) and hit the willows down low. This quite often sticks around for a while. I also love skiing North Rustler/Eagles nest, but it's a little more work to get to.

If you looking for fewer runs, but "cleaner" lines then I'd hit Supreme or Wildcat. With the new collins lift, the terrain off wildcat is now "under utilized." Catherines and Supreme bowl are great. There are also quite a few shorter but nice lines out towards sleepy hollow or the three bears. If the visibility isn't too bad, there are also some good lines to the skiers right of extrovert (off sugar loaf). The trees at the bottom of that run are also choice. Wildcat head out towards the snowbird boundry. Lots of nice "chutes" and gullies in there. Make sure you don't ski below the final traverse back to the lift or you'll be making a "bus run" (skiing down to the bypass road and picking up the alta/snowbird UTA busses)

Late in the day (but before 3:00pm) you might find a few very short clean lines off sunnyside along vail ridge. It's great for first time powder skiers. If you still have the legs, nothing better than to finish the day with a run down high rustler. It won't be fresh, but it will be epic.

Basically, I'd just go out and have fun. Look for any unskied lines and check the boards at the top and bottom of each lift for any gate openings. Generally, things open in roughly this order, Catherine's, Westward Ho, Supreme Bowl, The backside, ballroom, Devil's Castle, East Castle (then baldy). The high T and Greely Bowl rarely close. If it's storming all day, don't look for much new stuff to open during the day. They generally let things stabalize before doing ava work. (the like to shoot things with the ava-launchers before they go out and toss bombs. The patrol won't fire the Ava-launchers while the skiing public is out and about.

Depending on how heavy the snow is, there's a lot of low angle powder skiing that many of the locals don't ski. If it's fairly light you can ski it. Think trees between named runs on sugarloaf....
L
post #13 of 17
Thread Starter 
Thanks for all the information everyone. Keep it coming...

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Originally Posted by Philpug View Post
No, but you will post two stashed at Stowe and Jay??? :
Philpug, First, Everyone knows about those runs. I didn't let the cat out of the bag. Second, since this forum is about skiing isn't good that we give to our friends as well as taking information for ourselves.

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Originally Posted by Lonnie View Post
This is a recycle because I'm too lazy to re-type. It was written for powder days, but is still valid. (Found again by using the <search> function....) L
point taken about the search button. I missed the one you posted but am going back into re-scour thh searches to get more information
post #14 of 17
Asland,

If it's open, you MUST hike Mt. baldy. Main Chute really isn't that difficult (I think gunsite and eddies high are harder), but you have a sense of being on top of the world when you're up there.

L
post #15 of 17

Other SB Recomends

I am bit rusty on Snow Bird (cousins have a time share at Iron Blossam-it has been a few years for me)

But to add to many other SB recomends, I used to like poking around off the High Baldy Traverse. Very interesting terrain, little traffic (before the new chair-not sure now), and the lower runs on a low visibility/pow day like Phone Shot 3, Chips Face etc can be pretty fun.
post #16 of 17
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Originally Posted by cal to colorado View Post
I am bit rusty on Snow Bird (cousins have a time share at Iron Blossam-it has been a few years for me)

But to add to many other SB recomends, I used to like poking around off the High Baldy Traverse. Very interesting terrain, little traffic (before the new chair-not sure now), and the lower runs on a low visibility/pow day like Phone Shot 3, Chips Face etc can be pretty fun.
P-dog doesnot service High baldy traverse. but you can get to stuff like Eye of the needles from it you want to traverse.
post #17 of 17
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Originally Posted by BushwackerinPA View Post
P-dog doesnot service High baldy traverse. but you can get to stuff like Eye of the needles from it you want to traverse.
ahh good to know
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