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help for torn Adductors and Possible Hernia

post #1 of 24
Thread Starter 
Yup, I did it good! Doc says torn Adductor, at least one of them on Right leg and possible sports hernia. he says there is no test for sports hernia? Is this correct? I start PT tomorrow. I can't raise my leg off the ground or adduct at all.

All you PT's out there, advice? how long to expect not to ski? is there a way to check on the hernia? This sucks........
post #2 of 24
Not sure if this helps, but I had a sports hernia from weight lifting back in 82.
I wore a truss for several years while active, & have not needed surgery.
Even if you schedule surgery, you may want to wear one of these until then.

Good luck
post #3 of 24
Thread Starter 
Thanks Ray, FYI, there is a very sucessful surgery that is done orthroscopically. A wire mesh is woven into the muscles. I hope to not have this done!
post #4 of 24
My brother had the mesh placed on both sides & was back on his feet in a couple of days.
Your ski season, however, would probably be over, since full recovery takes time.
post #5 of 24
Thread Starter 
Well lets hope that all heals up! I am going to have to miss my J-hole trip on the 13th I think. I don't think going and cruising is much fun. Glad your brother did so well.
post #6 of 24
Need me to put some runs on your skis to keep them fresh.
post #7 of 24
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Need me to put some runs on your skis to keep them fresh.
Now thats a buddy!
post #8 of 24
Man, that bites. I've been thinking about you when I check the Steamboat snow reports. I hope you're back at it ASAP

How many days did you get in Dec?
post #9 of 24
If we are talking about an inguinal or femoral hernia the diagnostic test is physical exam. You can elect not to have a reducible hernia repaired. However an incarcerated hernia (very tender persistent mass, reddened skin) is a surgical emergency and needs to be repaired immediately. Repairs can be either open or laparoscopic, both using mesh. The recovery from the surgery itself (pain, etc) is faster with laparoscopic repair, but both require absolute minimum of 4 weeks (6 weeks preferred) for scar tissue to incorporate into mesh. This is the strength of the repair, not the mesh itself.
post #10 of 24
Thread Starter 
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Need me to put some runs on your skis to keep them fresh.
Ahh such a pal.... I would do the same for him

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Man, that bites. I've been thinking about you when I check the Steamboat snow reports. I hope you're back at it ASAP

How many days did you get in Dec?
Thanks, I only got in 5 days and 3 of those were partials. It was still great to just be there with all that snow coming down and some good memories of Powdercats and skiing with friends like Michael Barrett. We made some great runs!
post #11 of 24
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by discobean7 View Post
If we are talking about an inguinal or femoral hernia the diagnostic test is physical exam. You can elect not to have a reducible hernia repaired. However an incarcerated hernia (very tender persistent mass, reddened skin) is a surgical emergency and needs to be repaired immediately. Repairs can be either open or laparoscopic, both using mesh. The recovery from the surgery itself (pain, etc) is faster with laparoscopic repair, but both require absolute minimum of 4 weeks (6 weeks preferred) for scar tissue to incorporate into mesh. This is the strength of the repair, not the mesh itself.

Thanks, none of the above symptoms are present. (thank God)
post #12 of 24
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Thanks, none of the above symptoms are present. (thank God)
That's good news. Do you think you might be skiing just after Mardi Gras? Keep me posted..... and good vibes on a quick recovery
post #13 of 24
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Originally Posted by bumpfreaq View Post
That's good news. Do you think you might be skiing just after Mardi Gras? Keep me posted..... and good vibes on a quick recovery

Many thanks, I am actually heading out to rehab now and will know better soon. I hope to be back on some easy groomers within 3 weeks. I am hoping that once I get going with rehab things come back sooner. I understand that letting it heal and not pushing it will help to prevent reinjury. Come to think of it, Phil told me that but based on his eagerness to keep my skis warmed up.........
post #14 of 24
Is there any truth that a groin injury should be treated like a snake bite?
post #15 of 24
Thread Starter 
Thanks Phil but I don't know you well enough

Its actually way ahead of where the Dr. said it would be .

What's that other joke "why do dogs....."
post #16 of 24
Thread Starter 
Well, its back to the ol' laproscopic surgery again! Just spoke with the doc, Definitely a "sports hernia" and it's not healing so they will weave some kevlar mesh into the ab walls to strenghten it up. I will wait till after the season, of course......
post #17 of 24
Bummer. At least you can control the timing
post #18 of 24
Thread Starter 
It actually hurts less to ski than sitting at my desk all day. Really! The ab/groin cramps up. It hurts when walking; When your foot pushes off to move forward it causes the muscles to contract, that's when it grabs. Same for pedaling on the bike and forget about running of any kind. This has happened a few years back (not to this degree) and every year since then I had problems with pain in the groin area so it was really a matter of time. Progrnosis is excellent for full healing. I appreciate your support (kinda like a hernia belt )
post #19 of 24
Finndog:

I am the guy that sat next to you on the plane from Salt Lake to HDN earlier this month. I took your advice and looked up the web-site and just registered. I figured out who you were based on the Steamboat pics in the travel area. How is that for sleuthing?

It just so happens that I am a surgeon here in Portland, OR. So called sports hernia is somewhat of an inigma compared to regular inguinal hernias. You are in good company as Donavan McNabb had one a couple of years ago. You do repair them with mesh and can be done laparoscopically. You should be back to completely unrestricted activities within 4 weeks at the most.

On the skiing. Sounds from your other thread like you had a great time in Steamboat. How could you not with those conditions. We had a grand time and I look forward to going back there at the end of March for Spring Break.

Good luck with the hernia.
post #20 of 24
Thread Starter 
Hey great to hear from you and I am glad you found us! We certainly had some gret conditions that week! You guys looked to be having some fun as well. I appreciate the advice and encouragement. You are right about the enigma thing. When you tell folks what it is, they seem to think only of the traditional inginal tear. I have an appointment this Friday with a surgeon and was trying to get info on what experience or if there is any special training or procedure is needed for active folks and not the standard couch potatoes out there. If you have any info, please let me know. Again, glad you found us!
post #21 of 24
Sports hernias are a real misomer because they are not true hernias. They are more of a strain or tear, usually causing pain at the pubic area. The treatment depends on what you read. Some say rest for 2-3 months followed by PT and some say surgery is the only answer. I would not be surprised if a surgeon can feel a real inguinal hernia therefore eliminating the controversy by just fixing the inguinal hernia and in the process repairing the "sports hernia". Any general surgeon who has a relatively busy practice should be able to perform a hernia repair with mesh, either open or laparoscopically. It is the 1st or 2nd most common surgery I do. Unfortunately, I do not have any recommendations for N.J. for you. If you really want to dig into the surgeon make sure that s/he is board certified and you can usually look up there malpractice history online. Most importantly make sure that you feel comfortable with the surgeon. Good luck and if you have any questions feel free to send them my way.

John
post #22 of 24
Thread Starter 
John, please check your PM box.

Ron
post #23 of 24
I had to look into this a few years back. You may find some interesting info on this web site. Highly recommend them to anyone with a possible hernia. http://www.shouldice.com/
post #24 of 24
Thread Starter 
Thanks. AS an FYI, type thing. A sports hernia differs greatly from a bulging hernia. Its basically tears in the groin and abdominal walls that don't heal and worsen over time. Here's a link that explains it well,

http://www.ncsportsmedicine.com/inde...ortshernia.htm
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