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Recommendations for first time tuner.

post #1 of 13
Thread Starter 
I rounded up all the equipment I wil need to wax/tune my skis except the following:
Side edge tool, 3 degree
Base tool, 1 degree
Side planing tool
Corresponding files/stones for above tools

My goal is to avoid taking my skis into the shop for service as much as possible(they're hacks) and to keep my edges sharp and bases waxed to make my skiing experience more enjoyable.
There are a lot of options for the tools and was hoping for some recommendations from some knowledgeable bears. I would like some good equip. but nothing that will break the bank(doesn't have to be the best since I'm just getting started).
Thanks in advance.
post #2 of 13
buy the best tools you can afford, otherwise you'll probably just end up buying them again. svst and side of beast are both good edge guides, all you really need is one of those and a bastard or 2nd cut mill file, and a gummi stone to deburr. if the shop set your base bevel anywhere close to 1° just leave it alone. a vise makes things easier but isn't absolutely necessary for side edge work. probably need one if you insist on filing your base edges though. diamond stones are nice for keeping your edges in shape between filings, a 100 and 200 grit are probably all you need and you can probably get away with just the 200 if you don't hit too many rocks. if $28 for the moonflex is too steep, just go with SiC or Alox stones, your edges probably won't know the difference
post #3 of 13
What he said. Leave the base alone. Side of Beast, very easy to use.
post #4 of 13
Thread Starter 
Thanks. I just ordered the Ski Man Compact vise($84 shipped, I think its a good deal) and I have brushes, waxing iron, wax, scrapers, etc.
The shop was supposed to set my base at 1. Anyone else? Favorite places to buy tuning equip from?
post #5 of 13
http://www.tognar.com/ is where i got most of my stuff, it's pretty much a one-stop shop and i have no complaints. http://www.the-raceplace.com has all the beast stuff, and there are quite a few other places, plus a lot of local shops will stock everything you need.
post #6 of 13
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Originally Posted by fishEH View Post
Thanks. I just ordered the Ski Man Compact vise($84 shipped, I think its a good deal) and I have brushes, waxing iron, wax, scrapers, etc.
The shop was supposed to set my base at 1. Anyone else? Favorite places to buy tuning equip from?

Do business with a Bear, Terry is Great:http://www.slidewright.com/products.php?cat=24&pg=2
post #7 of 13
oh, for a sidewall planer, i wedge a dime under a pansar file clamped to my svst guide and it works just about perfectly on my skis.
post #8 of 13
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Originally Posted by mkevenson View Post
Do business with a
Bear, Terry is Great:http://www.slidewright.com/products.php?cat=24&pg=2
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post #9 of 13
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Originally Posted by bumpfreaq View Post
+1
+2 on shopping with Terry/Alpinord/Slidewright

Given what you're looking for, you might check out one of his "3-in-1" tools (Razor or Xact) that combine base, side edge and sidewall into one compact, inexpensive unit.
post #10 of 13
Wow! Thanks guys.....back at ya & Happy New Year!!

Epl, good tip for sidewalls. Every tried to shim the panzer to 0° and use it with the guide as a scraper sharpener?
post #11 of 13
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Originally Posted by Alpinord View Post
Epl, good tip for sidewalls. Every tried to shim the panzer to 0° and use it with the guide as a scraper sharpener?

no, haven't tried that, i usually just use a piece of drywall screen and a straight edge, although mostly i just rely on the ice at my local hill to scrape the bases for me. sorry about suggesting your competition, i'm kinda new around here, if i ever break down and decide to buy a vise or a proper sidewall planer, i'll check your place out first.
post #12 of 13
Just did my first edge tune the other day. I'll pass along a few things I found... SVST edge guide is very nice. Larger diamond stones work much better than small ones. The small DMT stones I have do not stay clamped tightly. If they lift off of the guide then they are no longer at 3 degrees. The smaller stones made me feel like I needed to use more pressure than needed.

I also found that my 3 degrees and the shops 3 degrees are not the same! They were probably set at 2 degrees or less. This meant a trip out for a file and a more course diamond stone. On the plus side, another local shop carried SVST diamond files. They also carried DMT and MoonFlex. After having all 3 in my hands I chose the $40 SVST over the other 2. Very nice! Very expensive! Better price online of course.

So a quick touch up of edges turned into the better part of a day, a trip across town for tuning supplies and resetting edge angles as my initiation into tuning. I skied them the next day and they felt great! Much better than before I tuned. What a difference that 1+ degree of edge angle made.

Have fun!
post #13 of 13
If I can remember back clearly, from ghrade school days skiing Kissing Bridge and Hidden Valley, there was occassionaly Lake Effect Powder you'd have to scrape for.....

(Competition and choices are good and hopefully this is all about increasing tuning confidence & interest for everyones's benefit.)
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