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Inches or Centimeters

Poll Results: Inches or centimeters or both?

Poll expired: Jan 15, 2008
• 20% (13)
Inches
• 41% (27)
Centimeters
• 24% (16)
Both
• 13% (9)
Don't care one little bit as long as there is new snow!
The rest of the world is using the metric system. The standards for snow and avalanche recording of data is metric.

Would you as a skier and a consumer prefer that snowfall totals on ski reports be in inches, centimeters or both.
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 Originally Posted by bunion The rest of the world is using the metric system. The standards for snow and avalanche recording of data is metric. Would you as a skier and a consumer prefer that snowfall totals on ski reports be in inches, centimeters or both.

I prefer the snow fall totals to be in....Feet.....:
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 Originally Posted by mkevenson I prefer the snow fall totals to be in....Feet.....:
Actually, I prefer mine in meters........ And Bunion knows that being a professional snow nerd, I'd rather see the snowfall reports in metric.
Weirdo here...

Being a Brit, I have the odd tendency to use both metric and imperial.

I'm used to snowbases in metric and fresh snow in imperial.
Ok, lets think about this for a second. What is 12*34*17.3*1.62. My guess is you can't answer this without a calculator. However, I bet you could answer 7.456*10*10*10*10. The answer is obviously 74,560. That is why the metric system is so easy. I don't even know why we are not using it yet. Mkevenson: I would rather be measuring my snow in meters.
And being a Brit ... weight in "stone" :

How about length in furlongs and ... depth in fathoms ... boot volume could be in cubits .. :
Let's see: skis and poles are measured in cm and mm, boots use European sizing, and snow can be measured in cm or inches--looks like we're already pretty metric. Just don't mess with vertical feet, it makes me feel I've done much more skiing in a day than if I measure in meters!
I wish the US government would just say as of X/X/X date that all official documents will be in metric. If people just switch it's no problem, but going back and forth between the two is a pain. Human nature being what it is, if presented the option to use a familiar system or a new system, no matter how superior that new system may be, people will stick with the familiar. Oh well, It's been (half-heartedly) debated since Thomas Jefferson first proposed switching in the 1800's so I'm not holding my breath.

Yuki: The story goes that in the early 60s the German engineers at NASA were submitting data in metric units. NASA requested in the future all data be in English units. The next set of reports had velocities calculated in furlongs per fortnight.

Seeing as how less then 10 years ago a 50 million dollar Mars probe crashed because of faulty conversions between feet and meters I guess not much has changed.
My distances are almost always in nautical miles and cables though (and they aren't even constant!)
Right now, there's still enough older Brit's (and Canadian/Assuise etc) around to "support" the non-metric system. In another 50 years, the US will be the only country that still uses non-metric.

And we all know we'll be the world's greatest power in 50 years, right?
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 Originally Posted by bunion The rest of the world is using the metric system. The standards for snow and avalanche recording of data is metric. Would you as a skier and a consumer prefer that snowfall totals on ski reports be in inches, centimeters or both.
Are you crazy?
We DO use the metric system, and have since the seventies. How could you have missed that?!
Check THIS LINK if you need proof.
I'm an American. i like my inches. lots and lots of inches.
which sounds better

2.5 cm

or

1 inch
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 Originally Posted by Marmot mb which sounds better 2.5 cm or 1 inch
Equally

1 cm or .393700 inch

Australia converted from imperial to metric in the early 1970's. The sky didn't fall in, the World didn't end, life went on and weights and measures became much simpler.
I've lived all my life with the metric system, but for some reason we always talk snowfall in inches. :
Hi all,I'm a newbe here.One of the reasons for not posting in the gear forum I'm still trying to figure my height and weight in inches and lbl's,so...
voted metrics
Don't worry mil46, just Google up a coverter table. I always post in both so as not to strain the cerebal capacity of those still stuck in the dark ages.
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 Originally Posted by Taxman Don't worry mil46, just Google up a coverter table. I always post in both so as not to strain the cerebal capacity of those still stuck in the dark ages.
Thanks a lot! Will do
It's just amazing that a cutting edge country would still use an arcane system of measurement like the Imperial system. Everything is so much simpler in the metric system.

Take temperature for instance: Water freezes at 0°C and boils at 100°C. Pretty simple. In imperial measurements water freeze at 32°F and boils at 220°F. Which system of measuring temperatures makes more sense?

Like someone else said everything in metric is divisions of 10. Take the measurement of distance.
Surveyors do all there shots in 'dec's' . 1 decimeter = 10cm, 1 meter = 10 decimeters, 1 kilometer = 1000 meters.

It's really too bad the US never went metric when Canada did. Anyone dealing in cross border shipping must be have a good understanding of both systems. Metric is simple and Imperial makes no sense. One system (the metric one) would sure make life in North America much simpler.

....who knows maybe one day the US will elect a government that will get with the times.
So, I'm alone at the bar and she sashays on over all slinky and stuff ..

What cha' got in yer' pocket there cowboy? She sez ...

This may be the thing that pushes us to metric ...
While I do appreciate all the replies, serious or tongue in cheek, the purpose of this is to determine how my companies ski/snow report will eventually look.

FWIW

http://ts.nist.gov/WeightsAndMeasures/Metric/pub814.cfm

Title 15 U.S.C. Chapter 6 §(204) 205a - 205l
METRIC CONVERSION LAW
(Pub. L. 94-168, §2, Metric Conversion Act, Dec. 23, 1975)

§ 204. Metric system authorized. - Itshall be lawful throughout the United States of America to employthe weights and measures of the metric system; and no contract ordealing, or pleading in any court, shall be deemed invalid or liableto objection because the weights or measures expressed or referredto therein are weights or measures of the metric system. (14 Stat.339, Adopted July 28,1866)
§ 205a. Congressional statement of findings. - TheCongress finds as follows:

(1) The United States was an original signatory partyto the 1875 Treaty of the Meter (20 Stat. 709), which establishedthe General Conference of Weights and Measures, the InternationalCommittee of Weights and Measures and the International Bureau ofWeights and Measures.

(2) Although the use of metric measurement standards in the United States has been authorized by law since 1866 this Nation today is the only industrially developed nation which has not established a national policy of committing itself and taking steps to facilitate conversion to the metric system.

(3) World trade is increasingly geared towards the metric systemof measurement.

(4) Industry in the United States is often at a competitive disadvantagewhen dealing in international markets because of its nonstandardmeasurement system, and is sometimes excluded when it is unableto deliver goods which are measured in metric terms.

(5) The inherent simplicity of the metric system of measurementand standardization of weights and measures has led to major costsavings in certain industries which have converted to that system.

(6) The Federal Government has a responsibilityto develop procedures and techniques to assist industry, especiallysmall business, as it voluntarily converts to the metric systemof measurement.

(7) The metric system of measurement can provide substantial advantagesto the Federal Government in its own operations.

§ 205b. Declaration of policy. - It is therefore thedeclared policy of the United States-

(1) to designate the metric system of measurement as the preferredsystem of weights and measures for United States trade and commerce;

(2) to require that each Federal agency

2 ,by a date certain and to the extent economically feasible by theend of the fiscal year 1992, use the metric system of measurementin its procurements, grants, and other business-related activities,except to the extent that such use is impractical or is likely tocause significant inefficiencies or loss of markets to United Statesfirms, such as when foreign competitors are producing competingproducts in non-metric units;

(3) to seek out ways to increase understanding of the metric systemof measurement through educational information and guidance andin Government publications; and

(4) to permit the continued use of traditional systems of weightsand measures in non-business activities.

Thanks to all who have "weighed" in so far.

I think that it's about time USA tried to convert to metric (Britain gets points for trying, but they're not evenly completely there yet). People claim that it's too hard to change, but almost every other country has done it without too many problems. Also, what's wrong with a bit of trouble now to save every generation after the trouble of being stuck with the imperial system. The way humans advance is to embrace new technology and systems that are better than what we currently have. Putting optical fibre in place of old copper lines is one hell of a task too, but you wouldn't complain about that because it doesn't require you to use your brain, just your tax money and your income when you pay for the services.
I wonder if any of our 2008 Presidential candidates have a "Metric Conversion Policy"? Actually, I wonder if any of our 2008 Presidential candidates have even heard of the Metric System...
565 cm in December. gotta like that.
All I have to say is that a PINT is the correct measurement for ale. A pint is 20 British ounces. A lot of bars and restaurants don't seem to get this:.
We just have to commit to doing it. Jeez, they're forcing everyone to get digital TV converters - you'd think the couch-potato contingent would be more resistant to that than to metric.

And it's not like we haven't used metric for certain everyday things for decades now. Everybody knows what size a 1-liter or 2-liter bottle of Coke is, and doesn't do the mental conversion. In addition to the ski and boot sizing mentioned upthread (not a general public thing, unfortunately), car engine sizes have been referred to only in liters or in cc for decades. (Not that I don't miss my old 396 cu in big-block Chevy!). Car tires are mostly in metric, although a weird mix where the wheel size is still imperial (e.g. P205/55R15).

We're already partly there. Just do it!

(And consider getting rid of the \$1 bill at the same time!)
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 Originally Posted by Ferniefreeheels It's just amazing that a cutting edge country would still use an arcane system of measurement like the Imperial system. Everything is so much simpler in the metric system. Take temperature for instance: Water freezes at 0°C and boils at 100°C. Pretty simple. In imperial measurements water freeze at 32°F and boils at 220°F. Which system of measuring temperatures makes more sense?
Actually, that's 212°F...at standard pressure. Of course, those 0 and 100 are not precise either, as they vary with atmospheric pressure as well, but who's counting?
That's right 212° F been so long since I thought in °F I've forgotten. ....and yes of coarse at sea level these temps are correct.
The U S should come into the 21st century and convert to 100% metric. I'd love to have just one set of wrenches. Soft conversions over say 10 years would not be very expensive. Snow depth would be a good place to start. If my 60 yr old brain can do it surely anyone can.
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 Originally Posted by steveturner The U S should come into the 21st century and convert to 100% metric. I'd love to have just one set of wrenches. Soft conversions over say 10 years would not be very expensive. Snow depth would be a good place to start. If my 60 yr old brain can do it surely anyone can.
Yes. It's even worse if you drive an "American" car in Canada. I can never figure out wether to use the 3/4 " socket or the 19 mm socket on my lug nuts. (Actually I just figured out the 3/4 is .05 mm smaller and hence better.)
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