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Thread Starter 
Helloe everyone. I've just registered and am looking forward to navigating through this site. I would like to ask you for some advice though. A little of my background:

55 Yrs. old
6' tall
230lbs.
Male
Intermediate level (ski the all runs at controlled speeds)
Ski mostly groomed (Ontario)

Have just come back to skiing after several years absence. Used to ski straight skis and am now looking to transition to the shaped skis. Have been out quite a few times this season and am adjusting to the new style skis fairly well. I'm looking to purchase skis that would would work for me now and going forward. Looking at the Izor 9.7 at 168cm (can get a real good deal on these) and wondered what your opinions are. I would appreciate any advice you can offer.
post #2 of 11
I have been on them 2 years ago when they came out. In your current situation just crossing over to the new technology you will probably want a ski that can skid and soft-edge pretty will. The Izor 9:7 would not be my first reccomendation but you could probably get by with them but will be working harder than you probably want to. It's not a high powered ski but it's not something I would classify as forgiving enough for someone just getting back into the sport and coming from straight skis. I would have rerservations as the tail is a bit stiff - it's somewhere in the upper intermediate to advanced level ski and really is one of those skis that comes allive with a bit of speed, otherwise it feels kind of sluggish. If you ski at a slower pace you will be working harder to push the tails around if you skid a lot. If possible I would look at the 7:5 - much more forgiving and you won't be working as hard to skid them around but will also have decent edge grip. All the Izors are pretty versatile skis for groomed terrain.

At your weight I wonder if a 168 will be long enough.

Also, I don't know how you skied on your straights but I would not try riding them with a feet-together style unless you like crossed tips and face plants. Whatever you get take a few lessons to work on edging techniques.
post #3 of 11
Welcome.

My heavy friend who doesn't ski much these days and is an intermediate who doesn't ski fast rented some 170 cm Speed Machine 12.2s. They seemed a good match for him. They were a little above his ability level with a high enough performance to encourage proper technique and allow room to grow, but not so high as to beat him up.

175 would be a better length for your weight, but on groomed you could get away with a shorter ski, provided it's not a noodle.
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Originally Posted by greybeard View Post
Helloe everyone. I've just registered and am looking forward to navigating through this site. I would like to ask you for some advice though. A little of my background:

55 Yrs. old
6' tall
230lbs.
Male
Intermediate level (ski the all runs at controlled speeds)
Ski mostly groomed (Ontario)

Have just come back to skiing after several years absence. Used to ski straight skis and am now looking to transition to the shaped skis. Have been out quite a few times this season and am adjusting to the new style skis fairly well. I'm looking to purchase skis that would would work for me now and going forward. Looking at the Izor 9.7 at 168cm (can get a real good deal on these) and wondered what your opinions are. I would appreciate any advice you can offer.
Greybeard, welcome to EpicSki!

The FAQ at the top of this forum may be helpful to you.

Also, before you spend a lot of time considering new skis, what is your boot situation? Your boots (and their adjustment to your feet, legs, and body morphology) are the most essential component of your gear! Get them right, and you can try a bunch of different skis until you find the ones you like most. If they aren't right, the skis won't matter much.

So... where are you with those?
post #5 of 11
Thread Starter 
Thanks for the replies. SSH, my boots are Atomic M90 fitted by a shop in Toronto (took a while). Maybe I should give some explanation of my abilities. I ski groomed runs (all) with controlled speed, if I had to estimate speed it would be 25-35 mph on blues and blacks. I'm comfortable in the smaller bumps as long as my knees hold out. I'm told I'm a level 7 skier (by an instructor) although I'm not sure what that means. I am used to edging my skis (straight skis) to keep control on icy sections but am still getting used to the new techniques (lateral movement only) which I'm learning fairly quickly. The other skis I'm considering (although pricier) are the VOLKL AC3 and VOLKL AC20. I can't really demo skis readily so will need to get as much info as I can. Any help/suggestions are welcome.
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Ghost! Calling Ghost! Your input will be valuable here...

Modern skiing isn't "lateral only", but it's nice that you are learning to use the sidecut of the ski to create the turn more than using the edges of the skis to scrape snow to slow your decent.

All of the skis that you are mentioning are solid, useful skis in these conditions with your skills.

You may also want to consider a Fischer RX6, an Elan MagFire 10 (or Speedwave 10), and a Nordica Mach 3 Carbon (not Power!).
post #7 of 11
If you're comfortable on old straight skis, then definitely look at a new ski in the 175cm range. There are a lot of good choices for intermediates nowadays, ssh covered two of my recommendations. The Mag 10 is a good, versatile ski.
post #8 of 11
Greybeard, Welcome from one of your age. If I let it grow it would be grey, stash is. Look up Sierra Jim's posts here by clicking on "member list" he gives some really good recomendations as do many others here. A wealth of ino and opinions.
post #9 of 11
If you are a level 7, as in already carving turns, then you would probably be able to adapt to any of todays top end skis imho. Fischer's top end skis like RX8, WC SC, WC RC, progressor, I think for what you find within driving distance of Toronto, an RX8 would suit most folks fine, but at your weight the extra stiffness of the WC would probably be better. Salomon Equipes or LAB models would also get a thumbs up, but not for someone your weight. If your were more into speed I would say Atomic SX12 would be good, but they don't like to smear turns; they are pretty much for riding the edge.

It was a few years ago, that I switched to modern skis, but I was used to arcing very long high speed turns on race skis, not making speed-control turns, so the transition was no biggie for me. I spent a year just demonstrating high end skis and bought cheap after the snow melted. You can ski modern skis with fore-aft weight adjustments for enhanced effects, but the primary movement should be lateral tipping of the ski; there's no need for extra acrobatics to get the ski bent into shape.
post #10 of 11
Thread Starter 
Thanks ghost. I tried a friends SX10's out and they were ok. A little squirely at first until the speed picked up (170's). I'm not into going as fast as I can anymore but still enjoy a little speed. Yes, I to carved my straight ski's and skied for almost 30 years before giving it up. It's not like I remember it and it will take some getting used to these new shaped ski's. I guess I'm just looking for a ski that will let me travel the mountain in some degree of comfort and control and still allow me to cut loose once in awhile. From the reviews I thought the following would work:
Atomic Izor 9.7
VOLKL AC 3
The folks on this site have given me some other recommendations that I'll try and follow up on.

mkevenson, thanks for the tip, I'll look his posts up.
post #11 of 11

Go RX8 and don't look back!

I have recently made a similar switch to shaped skis after 10 years away from skiing. I would second Ghost's recommendation of Fischer skis. Got a pair of RX8s at the end of last season from dawgcatching (another epic member) and couldn't be happier after skiing them for the first time last week. Very easy to ski and forgiving of my old school technique. Fantastic ski! I tried my hardest to get them to slip on some ice and I couldn't do it, fantastic edge hold.

I'd go longer than 170 because of your weight, I was torn between 170 and 175, but went for 170 since I have longer skis in the quiver. Wanted a tight turning lively ski and I got it in the RX8. Don't know if you need to go to the WC SC or RC since they won't be as forgiving as the RX8.

Good luck in your search!

Mike

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If you are a level 7, as in already carving turns, then you would probably be able to adapt to any of todays top end skis imho. Fischer's top end skis like RX8, WC SC, WC RC, progressor, I think for what you find within driving distance of Toronto, an RX8 would suit most folks fine, but at your weight the extra stiffness of the WC would probably be better. Salomon Equipes or LAB models would also get a thumbs up, but not for someone your weight. If your were more into speed I would say Atomic SX12 would be good, but they don't like to smear turns; they are pretty much for riding the edge.

It was a few years ago, that I switched to modern skis, but I was used to arcing very long high speed turns on race skis, not making speed-control turns, so the transition was no biggie for me. I spent a year just demonstrating high end skis and bought cheap after the snow melted. You can ski modern skis with fore-aft weight adjustments for enhanced effects, but the primary movement should be lateral tipping of the ski; there's no need for extra acrobatics to get the ski bent into shape.
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