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post #31 of 33

Last year I was skining on Nordica's (Doberman and Hot Rod), Dynastars (Course 67) and Salomon (Tornado) and there is a big difference between French and Austrian skis (Nordica's factory is close enough to Austria).


Nordica makes great front side carving skis.  Strong, great edge grip and good feedback.


Salomon's are light but lacking in edge grip.  Dont inspire confidence at high speeds.


Dynastars - Similiar to Nordica but don't seem to have the same edge grip.


I've demoed several pairs of Rossi and I am always underwhelemed - damp and dead feeling.


Tried the Volkl Racetiger SL and while it was very stable and had strong edge grip, they didn't seem to have the same "pop" as the Doberman SL or Spitfires.  Atomic SL was strong and stable, but lacking feedback (great edge grip).


For eastern frontside skiing, I prefere Nordicas.  Good balance of energy, feedback, stablity and edge grip. 



post #32 of 33

I'm noticing that people are saying some good things about Salomon's X Wing series after not hearing much about them. I just bought the X Wing Tornado's from Sierra in a 178. When I demoed them I was just surprised at how light and easy they were to ski and held pretty well on icy conditions.  


Sure they feel different then my Stockli XL's but for smaller NE ski resorts they have a great feel.



post #33 of 33

I get the best feel of a ski when I switch from one to another and keep skiing. So, in my humble opinion:


I can definitely tell you the feel of a Stockli stormrider: lots of energy, rebound, edgehold/grip, spring-loaded, gives back energy amplified. Very narrow sweet spot, with weight early on the ball of your foot or die. Then a little heel to absolutely rocket out of the end of the turn. (I have skied new boutique model skis that are stiff without giving back a damn thing, I call that obstinate, not stiff) Stockli is the ski that says wide race ski without making it up. This is a Ferrari, so why would they pander to a style oriented, fickle, ignorant consumer. Here's the real deal, buy it or move on, don't waste my time. This is a big grin with teeth clinched feeling, foot on the accelerator.


The Legend Pro Rider has cruising, very strong, driving power, responsive but not really springy or frenetic, and OMG, so smooth. Capable of so many kinds of skiing, a classic feel like a ski you've always known, a compostie of all the good Giant Slalom based skis we have relied on over the past decades, huge huge sweet spot fore and aft. Never inadequate off piste, always there and rock solid. This feels like a BMW 5 series. (I'd say Citroen because of their work on hydraulic-electric suspension and French manufacture, but I haven't driven it? Maybe a good match with the Mazzerati engine and race tires) This is the huge relaxed smile, we're rollin' on down the line,  and everthing feels mighty fine..


The B-Squad is just stiff and damp, great in crud or pow, but sucks on firm, sucks the energy right out of your legs. So it's the Mercedes S-500 with the weight and power to plow in soft snow, and a Dodge Ram on firm, that real truck suspension pain in the back ride. This ski produces a wide smile showing teeth with a touch of tension from high speed concentration.


The classic model Volkls were like todays stocklis, but no more. (When I see someone who says they ski Volkls, I say: then you better get Stocklis next time around). This ski produces a questioning smirk and the notion: "what happened?" (mantra/aura excepted) and their cap and/or fiberglass models most resemble the knock-off feeling of a Hundai sedan, and the worrisome feeling that you'll be replacing them soon before they fall apart. (I'm over the top, so flame me, but they are coasting on past glory.)


The classic Austrian, German, Swiss models share a concept of edge hold accomplished with stiffness with rebound energy. Relative to racing, edge hold via stiff, strong, lively feedbback, but you better ski right, and with a German accent. Good strong coffee with bitter chocolate and schnapps.


The French skis had more vibration absorption, snow surface hold via stiffness dampened.  Understand that in racing, edge hold is lost mostly when the ski is improperly weighted and chatters. So the french go right after the chatter. Expensive French champagne with exotic cheese and baguette.


All this petains little to perfect deep powder skiing, as less is required of the ski to provide big smiles.  

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