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Drilling skis multiple times

post #1 of 17
Thread Starter 
Want to buy a pair of used skis, but they have been drilled 2x, and id have to remount them. For real skiers (read not competitive, don't launch huge) will this make a real difference if the holes have been plugged properly?
The skis are Seths
post #2 of 17
You should be fine.
post #3 of 17
Just keep in mind that drilling a fourth time is a no-no.

Michael
post #4 of 17
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by barrettscv View Post
Just keep in mind that drilling a fourth time is a no-no.

Michael
after that you'd have to change the name from skis, to swiss cheese.
post #5 of 17
When it comes to mounting, it's three strikes- you're out!
post #6 of 17
Make sure the new holes are at least 2-3 hole diameters away from the old ones.
post #7 of 17

it depends

I'd say it depended on his boot size, your boot size, the brand of bindings he used and their hole pattern, etc.

The reason I say this is my local shop could not find bindings that would avoid the two old sets of holes in the skis I had on for my accident (ripped out a toe piece). Now, presumably I could go to another ski shop about it, but I worry about their concern for my safety since I don't have a personal relationship with the other stores. But one of these days, I may.

In the meantime, anyone who wants to make an offer on Recons skied for two seasons that already have been drilled twice, 167's, let me know. A good offer might make me give up this idea I have of going to the other shops.
post #8 of 17
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I'd say it depended on his boot size, your boot size, the brand of bindings he used and their hole pattern, etc.

The reason I say this is my local shop could not find bindings that would avoid the two old sets of holes in the skis I had on for my accident (ripped out a toe piece). Now, presumably I could go to another ski shop about it, but I worry about their concern for my safety since I don't have a personal relationship with the other stores. But one of these days, I may.

In the meantime, anyone who wants to make an offer on Recons skied for two seasons that already have been drilled twice, 167's, let me know. A good offer might make me give up this idea I have of going to the other shops.
Certified ski shops will not mount any skis more than three times. It's a liability issue.
post #9 of 17
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Originally Posted by DropCliffsNotBombs View Post
Certified ski shops will not mount any skis more than three times. It's a liability issue.
You should find some better shops.
post #10 of 17
Better shops, like the ones I have worked at, will not send you out the door with "swiss cheese" cores! That's just not cool man.
post #11 of 17
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Originally Posted by DropCliffsNotBombs View Post
Better shops, like the ones I have worked at, will not send you out the door with "swiss cheese" cores! That's just not cool man.
I'm with you, I'd prefer the shop that does things right versus half-***. I've seen people do some dumb stuff to save a few bucks. Be it ski's, brakes on their car, home repair, you name it.
post #12 of 17
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Originally Posted by barrettscv View Post
Just keep in mind that drilling a fourth time is a no-no.

Michael
this may seem like a dumb question, why is the 4th time around a no-no?

does one run out of solid matter to drill into?
post #13 of 17
Too many holes starts to compromise the structural integrity of the ski. The holes can weaken the ski, causing it to bend or snap under load.

I think some skis could probably take more than three mounts if all the holes were at least a few diameters apart, but three is a good rule of thumb.
post #14 of 17
Skis are layers of really thin materials. Once you drill holes, you can fill them with elmers glue to try and keep water out, but the wood, metal, etc., you drilled through is gone. Put a bunch of holes into a ski and you might end up drilling very close to an existing hole that doesn't have much for the screw to grab into. Use the skis hard and there's no guarantee the binding stays where you want it...
post #15 of 17
1) Re-use old mount holes if at all possible (i.e., if they fit your boot size). Use glue when mounting; if the holes are sloppy, use epoxy.
2) Plug old holes with wood plugs, glued in place. IMHO, stronger than plastic pound-in plugs. Paint over tops of wood plugs to seal them.
3) Try to keep your new holes at least 1 hole space away from the old holes. At the very least, don't overlap the holes.

If the ski has a thick metal topsheet, it'll withstand multiple drillings fine. Think Atomic Powder Plus, Volkl Explosiv. If no metal in the ski (like those K2s), definitely keep your new holes 1 space from the old ones.
post #16 of 17
Consider installing a plate if this is the 3rd time the ski is being drilled.

This plate works for Tyrolia & Fischer FreeFlex & Mojo: http://www.levelninesports.com/tyrol...lver-p-80.html

The plate will allow the repositioning of the binding in the future, if the boot size changes more than one size.

Michael
post #17 of 17
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Originally Posted by DropCliffsNotBombs View Post
Certified ski shops will not mount any skis more than three times. It's a liability issue.
Neither of us is talking about a fourth mount. We're both talking about THIRD mounts.
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