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mounting 101 . . . please help!

post #1 of 11
Thread Starter 
i just bought new skis and they're going to be mounted at the shop with the bindings off of my old skis . . .

now, i was hoping to take the bindings off of an even older pair of skis and slap them on my old skis.

MY QUESTIONs:

can i do this myself or is it a really bad idea?
any advice for me as a first time binding mounter?
what's the worst i can do to these skis???

why not just go to the shop, you ask?
1) i'm cheep
2) i figure it'll be a good "learning experience"
3) i'm dealing with older skis that i'm not so worried about scratches and/or minor damage (as long as i don't ruin the integrity of the ski)

thanks for your advice!!!
post #2 of 11
Don't bother doing a binding mount yourself. I mount bindings as a job, and I still would not imagine trying to teach myself how to with home tools. It's cheaper to have the pros do it than with yourself taking hours of your precious time. And yeah, you could easily destroy a ski by mismounting it!
post #3 of 11
I'd say if you have to ask, then have a shop do it. Heed DCNB's advice carefully.

That said, if the bindings happened to be the same exact brand and you could re-use all the screw holes without re-drilling the skis, then it simplifies the job significantly. You just need to be careful driving the screws in -- give them a counter-clockwise twist until you feel a click -- so that they engage the existing threads -- then screw in clockwise. I like a drop of glue (wood glue or white elmers) in each hole. You need to snug up the screws, but not over-tighten them, else risk stripping the holes. In a pre-threaded hole, that generally means screwing until you feel the screws come to a stop, then giving no more than 1/8 of a turn to snug them. It takes some experience and/or a mechanical touch to do it right.

If you did have to drill new holes, that increases the risk quite a bit, and I would say to have a shop do it. Again, it's one of those cases where, if you have to ask, then you probably should let the pros do it. Keep in mind, if your old bindings are really old, a shop might not want to touch them, and that probably means it's a good time to buy new bindings.

Actually, I would recommend buying new bindings for your new skis, and leave the old skis/bindings alone. That's the best option in my opinion. You can buy very good bindings leftover from last year for $80-150 in most cases.
post #4 of 11
I agree with the buy new bindings for the new skis. Makes a lot of sense. Mounting skis can be fairly easy but you will need some tools. To transfer the mounting hole pattern from the oldest skis to the old skis, remove the bindings and clamp a 1/8 inch piece of plexiglass to the ski. I make multiple jig templates by ripping 3-inch wide acrylic sheet on the table saw. Carefully mark the centerline, boot center, and hole pattern, on the template, then drill 3.6 x9.1 holes through the plexiglass. This is your home made jig and will let you transfer the hole pattern to many other pairs of skis.

Buy hole plugs and using wood glue fill the old holes with glue and tap a plug in each hole. Cut or sand flat. Lay the binding jig on the ski and line up where the centerline and boot center belong, then clamp. Use the drill bit to mark the ski surface for the new holes. Remove the jig and use the 3.6 x 9 mm drill bit to drill holes. If the top sheet is metal, use a 4.1 x 9 mm drill bit instead, and be sure to tap the holes. Now, just put some glue in each hole and screw on the binding. Since these are old bindings, you should do a release check, but if you did everything right, the mount should be identical to the old ski. Or, you could just spend $35 and get the mount done perfectly by a pro. OTOH, old skis and older bindings...you aren't risking much, at least with regard to the skis.
post #5 of 11
Me, if it's a modern integrated systems where you basically just slide the things on rails, line up some numbers and then set the din and forward pressure with a few screws, I do it myself.

It it involves drilling holes like a conventional flat ski, I don't even think of it. The guys in the shop have special jigs/templates and special drill bits to do it and you won't be able to be near as precise with household tools.

What's the worst you can do to the skis? Who cares. What the worst you can do to yourself when you ski on them and whether you want to risk it is the question you should ask.
post #6 of 11
Thread Starter 
thanks for the tips!

my reason for not buying new bindings for new skis is because i want touring bindings on them . . . and i can't afford to pay another $500 for a brand new pair of freerides when i already have a pair!

as for the old skis/old bindings . . .
i'll worry about it later!

cheers!
post #7 of 11
Mountain Girl, here's Lou Dawson's page @ WildSnow on mounting Freerides.
post #8 of 11
How many times have you been driving along and seen a "perfectly good" pair of skis sticking out of a trash barrel?

And, a week later .... another ... :

If you have an itch that needs to be scratched, take a few pair of those homeless puppies and switch the bindings around.

What do you have to lose? You aint going to ski them ... just "play shop" ..
post #9 of 11
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Originally Posted by Yuki View Post
How many times have you been driving along and seen a "perfectly good" pair of skis sticking out of a trash barrel?

And, a week later .... another ... :

If you have an itch that needs to be scratched, take a few pair of those homeless puppies and switch the bindings around.

What do you have to lose? You aint going to ski them ... just "play shop" ..
i like how you think!

definatly addresses my thirst for knowledge!!!
post #10 of 11
To see how the "DIN" holds up on those trial skis ...

Just nail them to the floor and have hubbie/significant other or a friend tackle you at different angles to test the release ..

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post #11 of 11
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Originally Posted by mountain girl View Post
i like how you think!
When I saw this yesterday, my immediate thought was "Oh nooooo, mountain girl.... don't encourage him..... don't feed the bear!!!!"

And now, as if to prove my point...

Quote:
Originally Posted by Yuki View Post
To see how the "DIN" holds up on those trial skis ...

Just nail them to the floor and have hubbie/significant other or a friend tackle you at different angles to test the release ..

:
I apologize for not acting on my instinct to protect the newcomers among us.....
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