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Problem/damage with Fischer RX5 skis

post #1 of 12
Thread Starter 
Hello,
This is my first post here, I hope I'm posting on the right section.

Here's my problem:

I bought these skis, Fischer RX5 model, aproximately 3 years ago and have skied with them a total of 20 days more or less (I do a lot of jumping with them).
The skis have a kind of plastic coating that started to open in some parts of the ski, but nothing that alarmed me much.

Today I opened my ski bag to prepare them for this season, and I noticed that the plastic wrap had lifted in a lateral part of the ski.
I have taken 3 pictures to show you what happened.

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This is the photo of the ski that has the problem:

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Here's a close up from behind:

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And here another close up:

I am writing to ask you experts (I have been skiing for about 10 years now, but these were my first skis) if this is serious, and what do you recommend I do with this problem?

I thought I could cut it or glue it somehow. What do you recommend?

And also, what should I do with the small parts that look like they will become like this one sooner or later? (on the 3rd picture you can see on the left a bit of plastic that is also starting to lift)

Thank you for your attention (and my apologies for my english, it is really rusty)
post #2 of 12
Ouch! (I have never even seen an RX5, so I can't give you specific advice).

Questions:

When you bend the ski very hard, does the plastic come further away from the ski?

When you bend the ski very hard, look carefully where the edges meets the bases, and where the edges meet the sidewall material that isn't the clear plastic. Is there anything else, that seems to be coming apart?

When you bend the ski very hard and let go, are there any noises that do not seem right?
post #3 of 12
Thread Starter 
Hello again,
First of all, thank you for your reply.
I tried to bend the ski that has that problem, but I don't know what you mean by bending the ski very hard. I tried to force it a little bit and I don't notice more parts lifting.

It is has I described. The plastic coating has unglued from that ski in 4 ou 5 areas of that ski (the other one is fine, nothing like this has happened to it) just like it is shown on picture number 3 (the small bit on the left that isn't lifted).

The other bigger plastic bit, as you can see, has broken and lifted a lot.

When I bent the ski I didn't hear any noises, but maybe I didn't bend it hard enough. I'm also a bit afraid of worsening the situation.

Do you think it is an option to glue that part?


I am going to the spanish resort "Baqueira" from January 6th to the 13th. Maybe I should take the ski to a specialized store, no?

Any advice is welcome
post #4 of 12
I think it is probably best to let a specialized store in resort glue it down. My reasons are:

- It may be hard to find a specialty glue on your own that will grip both the plastic and the sidewall material, and still remain flexible enough to let the ski flex.
- When they prepare the smaller piece for glueing (small hole and syringe, for example) they can check for any other cracking.
- They can fix it again if the glue doesn't grip as your ski.

Chances are, it will take them less than 20 minutes to clean out those 2 sections, inject adhesive into both, and clamp the two sections tight, then maybe a day to allow everything to cure.

Enjoy your trip. I don't think I'm not the only one who would be interested to read your trip report when you come back.
post #5 of 12
Although the two year Warranty period has expired on your skis and you have used them for a lot of jumping, I'd consider taking them to the dealer you bought them from and see what you might agree on as a solution. It doesn't seem that even with some rough usage that the material should fail that much after about 20 days- even though it looks cosmetic. Maybe you could work out a discount on another Fischer ski, or even a replacement.

If there is no possibility for water seeping into the core, the skis will likely still work fine. If water has gone into the core of the ski from last season and remained there for an externded period of time , you could have a problem.
post #6 of 12
Thread Starter 
Now that you mentioned it, the skis are still in the 2 year warranty period. I bought them in Andorra in February 2006.

I am going to contact the store today to know what can be done.

I have one major problem now: I don't have how to prove that I bought them in February since the credit card extract has gone to the garbage bin for some time now

Do you think I may have any chance still?
post #7 of 12
I believe this was a known issue with the top sheet material on the RX-series during a particular year of production. The dealer shouldn't have a problem doing a warranty replacement. They may still have a record of the sale if you lost your paperwork.

BTW, it's a cosmetic issue and shouldn't affect the performance of the ski. Still, if you can get a warranty replacement, you should pursue it.
post #8 of 12
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Originally Posted by doutor_ice View Post
Now that you mentioned it, the skis are still in the 2 year warranty period. I bought them in Andorra in February 2006.

I am going to contact the store today to know what can be done.

I have one major problem now: I don't have how to prove that I bought them in February since the credit card extract has gone to the garbage bin for some time now

Do you think I may have any chance still?
If the shop requires proof of your purchase, you may be able to contact your credit card company and order a copy of your list of charges for the month/year that you made the purchase.
Good luck.
post #9 of 12
Thread Starter 

Hi there everybody,

First of all, sorry for bringing up this very old topic again. It's been a long time since I posted my problem with my skis, and it got worse and worse with time.

 

Firstly, regarding the previous posts from 1 year and few months ago, I took the skis to a ski shop in Val Thorens (French Alps) and they glued that loose parte on the site and the work came out good.

 

However, I used the skis for 2 more ski trips, and 2 weeks ago I went to Baqueira/Beret in Spain, and that plastic protection started to "unglue" in large scale. I took the skis to a luthier there and they said they couldn't glue the plastic. (I do a lot of jumping and of piste, but I think regular skis would hang on well to that kind of skiing)

 

That's what brings me here again to ask for your advice. I still hope that it's possible to glue the Skis, and I was thinking of doing it at home with glue and the help of some kind of press (I think this is the wright word for the tool).

 

Bellow are 5 pictures of the current situation:

1st: Back part of the ski with the loose plastic down

2nd: Same part of the ski, with me lifting the plastic

3rd: Front part of the ski with the loose plastic down

4th: Same part of the ski, with me lifting the plastic

5th: Side part of the ski with the lifted and broken plastic

 

 

 

  

 

 

 

I would like to know what type of glue should I use to glue that plastic down in order to keep that plastic protection down.

 

Oh, and if you can tell me how to contact anyone at Fischer Skis via e-mail, it would be great. They don't have any e-mail contact in their website.

 

Finally, I don't understand what's the mistery with these skis. I don't find the model in Fischer website, there are only a few references to it on the web, and I haven't seen any other model of skis anywhere else with this crappy plastic protection. The skis usually have a protection but it's not a thick plastic protection as this one.

 

Thank you in advance for any advice or tips :)

post #10 of 12

Wonder if anyone will see this 2 years later but I have a pair of Fischer AMC 76 skis that are doing the same thing.  Started about 2 years ago.  Now the laminate is about to detach from the toe of the ski.  When it does, I'll have a 12-inch length of flapping plastic that will have to be cut off.  I have also heard that this is purely cosmetic but I would have expected better quality control from Fischer and I cannot find anyway to contact them directly.

 

If you have found any glue and/or procedure that fixes this problem, I am all ears.

 

Overall, great skis, just crummy coating.

post #11 of 12

Wonder if anyone will see this 2 years later but I have a pair of Fischer AMC 76 skis that are doing the same thing.  Started about 2 years ago.  Now the laminate is about to detach from the toe of the ski.  When it does, I'll have a 12-inch length of flapping plastic that will have to be cut off.  I have also heard that this is purely cosmetic but I would have expected better quality control from Fischer and I cannot find anyway to contact them directly.

 

If you have found any glue and/or procedure that fixes this problem, I am all ears.

 

Overall, great skis, just crummy coating.

post #12 of 12

Search Epic for threads about RX8 delamination.  You'll find info. 
I had the same problem and after many folks telling me that no glue or epoxy will simultaneously hold the topskin on AND flex with the ski, I simply cut out the offending sections.  Now I have a ski that looks like it has leprosy, but other than that, it seems fine.

Good luck.

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