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Rossi B2 vs. B3

post #1 of 6
Thread Starter 
Has anyone compared these skis? My wife and I are headed to Jackson Hole in February and we were recommended a few different skis. The Rossi B3 being one.

But, I can't find a pair of B3's in the length I need (6' 1/2", 190 lbs, WAS an aggressive skier, so I'm probably a 5,6 or POSSIBLY a 7 now) for a price I can afford. I found a pair of used B2 (and B2W skis for my wife), but I don't know how much different the B2 is from the B3.

Are the differences significant between the B2 and the B3?

My wife hasn't skied since she was a child (she's now 33, 5'11", 140 lbs) and she will only be skiing for a couple of days in JH. We're bringing our 8 year old daughter and my wife INSISTS on teaching her how to ski. I think that is a mistake because I'd rather she learn from an instructor (which I think my wife should do too!), but my opinion matters not in these matters.

I thought about my wife demoing skis, but she's against it. "Just get me a pair of skis" was her reply. Not sure that's going to work on a mountain like Jackson Hole, but what can I do other than communicate why it's important to get lessons and have proper equipment? Anyone else here married?

Ok, so that brings me to my request for reviews. Although I would like to buy a pair of B3's, I can't find any I can afford. I found the B2 and B2W skis and thought I would buy us both these skis, but I don't know if they are close enough to the B3's that were suggested.

Finally, I may wind up demoing skis while I'm there. I haven't demoed skis before, and I'm not in a position to spend a lot of money trying something out. But, I know it would be a better idea than buying the wrong skis. And, I haven't been skiing in 10 years and I never skied on shaped skis. I'm skiing for 4 days in JH (my wife has to leave early for class).

So, there you have it. Please help, or let me know if there's anything else I can tell you to help me more.

Regards,
Mark
post #2 of 6
Mark, welcome! Are you going to be skiing on these skis after JH? If so where do you ski and what type of terrain do you want to ski? Also how ofter do you or do you want to ski? If the skiing is going to be very limited, it may make sense to rent or better yet get a package deal with a lesson and skis. Do you have boots? Do you know what type of ski you want, ie, on piste carver, mid fat, softer, stiffer, etc. Some of the answers might help with the suggestions.
post #3 of 6
Thread Starter 

Thank you!

These are great questions, and I'll answer as best as I can.

"Are you going to be skiing on these skis after JH? If so where do you ski and what type of terrain do you want to ski?"
Yes, I would use these as my primary skis after the trip. I ski in the midwest, and I'm usually a piste skier though I have ventured off-piste (that turned into a disaster and involved ski patrol to rescue my butt out of a very precarious situation .

"Also how ofter do you or do you want to ski? If the skiing is going to be very limited, it may make sense to rent or better yet get a package deal with a lesson and skis."
I haven't skied in 10 years, but now that our daughter is old enough we plan on going skiing more often. I'd like to ski 2-3 times per year. Actually, I'd like to ski everyday but nothing bigger than a hill in the midwest (Chicago) is enticing enough to drive 2 hours for a 400 foot vertical.
It would be great to be in a position to afford a package of lessons and demo/rentals, but we can't right now because of the financial support we give to our parents.

"Do you have boots?"
This weekend I'm going to a bootfitter that is listed on epicski to get fitted for boots. He has some Tecnica Icon boots from a couple seasons ago that he's heavily discounting. Hopefully they will be the right fit for our feet (wife and mine). I know how important properly fitted boots are, so that is the highest priority.

"Do you know what type of ski you want, ie, on piste carver, mid fat, softer, stiffer, etc."
Here is where the breakdown occurs. It is my lack of knowledge, or dated understanding, of skiing terminology that may cause a failure in translation.
I skied everything and everywhere I could 10 years ago. There wasn't one run I didn't try regardless of how difficult it was. I would take my time to get down some double black diamond runs, but I got down them. Not necessarily the best skiing experience for most people, but I made sure I did my best to try everything I wanted to try. That is what made it best for me.
So, I don't necessarily know how to describe what type of skiing I would be doing other than to decribe it as I'll try anything. Conditions at resorts often change due to weather changes which is why it would be better to demo/rent skis (especially with lessons), but I'm looking for some guidance to get a pair of skis w/bindings that are used (not abused) for under $250.

That may be wishful thinking, but I'd like to know if it is possible. I found a website that has a lot of used ski equipment with great prices www.galacticsnowsports.com , but none of their equipment (other than the B2 skis) are close to the dimensions of the skis recommended to me. The waists get up to about 76 (may be too thin), then 92 (definitely too fat).

The information I received so far from a couple of Epic Bears has been tremendously helpful, and I'm trying to limit my bothering them with these types of questions. They know the conditions of their resort better than anyone, so it would be ideal to find skis similar to those they suggested that I can afford. Unfortunately, the Volkl AC 40 and Mantra are way outside my budget as are the Head im82, Dynastar Jet Fuel, Salomon X Fury, etc...

Believe me when I write I understand I'm asking for a lot without a lot of money. But, we have higher financial priorities and I thought a ski trip for my family and my sister-in-laws family would be a very nice idea because they just moved here from Europe and they really miss skiing. I hope I can pull it off.

Thanks for your help!

Regards,
Mark
post #4 of 6

B2 vs. B3

Um, sounds like rentals may be best, but if you insist on buying....

The B2 is a great all around ski, as is the B3. The dimensions have changed slightly over time, but the B3 is just a hair wider (think 83 vs 78 at mid). The B3 works a bit better in powder. However, I have taken my B2's through feet of powder in Alta and all over Aspen from ice to powder. I have heard that the B's can loose a bit over time due to their core construction, but I've had over 100 days on my current B2's and they are great. My Bandit X's were also great until they got ripped off. If you are skiing mainly fresh powder, the B3s are closer to what you want, but the B2's will certainly float even if they make you work a little more.

I am 5'10 ~145lbs and ski a smaller 166 (I think) B2 for the most part and have no complaints that are attributable to the ski. By todays standards these are not fat in the slightest but they certainly work. If I had to do it again, I would have gone with the B3's since I like to ski powder more but really either ski is a great all around version. I've also had a set of Bandit X's and the whole series has been great.

Now for your other question that you did not ask... Sounds like you have the right thought about instructing; your daughter would be better off in a lesson and probably carve circles around you and your wife in no time flat. I had my X go to lessons and from what I watched teaching has changed since I was a kid. It would be best if everyone took lessons if it has been as long as you indicate. Your wife may find it difficult to instruct while she is re-learning herself.

Demoing may be your best bet, if you wind up buying then most if not all the money could be credited depending on the shop. There are a lot of good skis out there while I like my B2's the whole industry is going fatter and fatter all the time.

Enjoy JH! I just got back from Co. and already cant wait until this weekend's next trip ;-)
post #5 of 6
Thread Starter 
Wow, thanks for a very good description!

Quick question: Would you rather ski the Bandit XXX'x or the B2?

And, do these skis ski "short" or "long"? I am 68" to my nose which comes to about 173 cm while my wife is 65" to the nose or about 165 cm.

IF I buy, and that's a big IF at this point, should I buy a little longer or shorter?

Thanks again,
Mark
post #6 of 6
The B3 is significantly wider in the tip & tail while only a little wider in the waist. This makes for a ski that is much more responsive but also much more twitchy and hooky in soft snow, especially if its been cut up. The B2 is much more forgiving in soft snow.

This year the B3 is replaced by the B83 and the B2 is replaced by the B78. Supposedly Rossignol has stiffened the B83 a bit to make it more stable in cut up snow. If that's true, I would hands down pick the B83 but if its not its a real toss-up between the two skis.
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