some ideas from an ordinary punter...
Originally Posted by Philpug
Thank you. This is the type of information we are looking for. It is not what we want to sell that is important, it is what members like you want to buy. We have been racking our heads for months on the gear review topic, we have yet to find a software that suites our needs.
First off - I only read 2 or 3 posts before writing this. Then I read the whole thread so there is some overlap
I am an ordinary (for Epic) punter
And what *I* would like is help and info.
About anything and everything ski related: technique (of course), instructors in a resort, accommodation suggestions (I'm in the UK - you guys *live* there - and heck, I don't even mind you getting a commission if the advice is good!) - same goes for buying/renting gear - and the perennial gear advice *for me*.
Skiing is expensive in both time and money - and I for one would like to maximise the return on my spending (note, not always minimise it!)
So how about giving me some questions - 2 or 3, maybe more. And try to get 2 or 3 'knowledgeable' people to answer them. Not essays. just a few moments of thought/typing. But trying to be extra helpful.
Maybe premium members warrant more questions, more considered answers? maybe even a 'videoed' answer (and I'm talking a webcam/mobile phone video, not an ESA DVD
) to highlight a point of technique or snap a piccy of a room or a slope or ... well, there could be a super-premium package
I think Yahoo! answers has an interesting approach where it credits and rates repliers - maybe a thought?
I pay my subs to Epic - being honest, it's because the first ESA kinda 'gave' a subscription which I've then maintained (even though no ESA this year
). It's not much, I don't mind - I don't know how much more I'd pay. At the minute Epic is 'just forums' and IMO that's too messy and fuzzy to be very valuable.
It's certainly worth considering that you're talking about a 'service' approach here - the value of a pro's time to answer my question (never mind take a video!) is not going to come from my subscription. But it has the potential to engage me at a pretty deep level. What's that worth?
As for the gear reviews - what could be better than a wiki?
I tried to get one going
on Snowheads - but the focus there is less about providing information and more about chat. A wiki allows you to refine and present information rather than continally debating it and watching it slip away (look at this post
from Jan 2005 - a long forgotten gem - now look here
- I cut'n'pasted that in less than 1 minute.... and magically got a printable version?
and it appears in the glossary
. Better than 'use the search')
A wiki concentrates information. It would be *ideal* for gear reviews and editing a wiki is about as easy as replying to a post. You need to register on snowheads and then login to the wiki to edit the page and see how simple the text is
Sure there needs to be a (light, clear policy) editorial hand - but different areas of a wiki can have different controls. Weems you could publish a lot of expansion on your diamond and only allow links to/from it - not allowing others to edit your 'diamond' pages - wiki's do provide discussion and history pages which could allow you to engage and interact with people.
and I'd *love* to see Bob's Encyclopedia on a wiki - that would be awesome!!
(oh, and I got into this thread 'cos in the bottom picture here
along with Dave Grogan and Stephanie that's me in the red jacket