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Short radius turns/bumps???

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I have been skiing for 23 years, live in vail and ski about 75 days per year. Even though I haven't had any technical lessons since I was about 8 years old, I have developed into a strong good skier at 28 years old. I am self taught for the most part. The problem is that I GS/SG everything, and do it very well. When I need to make short turns my pole planting is not so good. Most of this is because I never learned to make great short turns. When I zipper line bumps I am solid at staying in the fall line, keep my weight forward, and pivot/skid/release edges well and quick. My problem is still the pole plant. More specifically my right hand always drops to my side and behind. I can't for the life of me keep my right hand up and in the front??? I have even tried skiing easy groomers making short quick turns while pole planting and it feels so awkward. Any suggestions or drills would be appreciated.
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Hi Townicus and welcome to Epicski!

Without seeing you ski this may be inaccurate but I would guess if you have difficulty keeping your right hand from dropping to your side, there may be some turning power being generated there with some rotation to compensate for a deficiency in your technique or a possible issue with boot alignment.

Have you tryed skiing without poles? Do you find your turns are asymetrical or that you have difficulty starting a turn to your right?

Something to check would be an overcanted left boot, OR an inability to release that edge for some other reason?
post #3 of 8
Welcome to epic townticus!

I agree with Bud on the right hand dropping behind. Many people have a "reluctant" left foot wich causes problems with the turn to the right. Get your allignment checked by a boot specialist. From there, starting on easy terrain, make shure you are keeping balanced between your skis espicially after the fall line part of the turn. The reluctant left foot causes people to lean into the turn too much (putting too much weight on the right foot) and often rotate the upper body to the point where it is facing up the hill toward the end of the turn. This makes it very difficult to rebalance and reallign before turning to the left. The akward pole plant is a symption of this.

post #4 of 8
Many people have a "reluctant" left foot wich causes problems with the turn to the right.
That's interesting. But is that a boot issue? Or a leg/foot issue?

I certain have something of that nature. I don't turn right as well as I turn left. And I can feel I'm putting too much weight on my right foot when turning right.

I can tell my left leg isn't as strong as my right. I can stand on my right foot (no ski) quite stable but standing on the left is not stable at all. When I skate, I can't glide as long on the left because I simply can't balance on the left for long.

I had always assume it's a strong/weak side issue and probably ought to do specific exercise on my left side. Never cross my mind boots has anything to do with it...
post #5 of 8
Unless you've had a stroke, I'd bet you have some foot/leg bone anomaly that should be adjusted for in your equipment, just as Bud and Ron suggest.
post #6 of 8
at nyc,

Unless you've had a stroke, I'd bet you have some foot/leg bone anomaly that should be adjusted for in your equipment, just as Bud and Ron suggest.
I agree wit KB, this could be the case. I think everyone has a stronger side and a more reluctant side. My bigger boot issue is on my right foot, but I still feel that is my stronger side. It is very much like being right handed, we can be right footed, meaning that when we do comon movements, the left foot becomes the base foot and the right foot manuvers around it. When we are right handed, the left hand holds while the right hand manupiliates. It has to do with our early nervous system wiring to the muscle receptors. When we are born, there are multable wiring systems to each muscle groupe. As we develope, the less active wiring dyes off only leaving that which is being activally used. Our movements as an infant and toddler determine what is kept and what isn't.

In skiing, where symetry between our two sides is required, we have to teach our muscles some new movements and tentions that our wiring is not adapted to. Practice and milage will cause the wiring to adapt to what is required once we understand what the cause is.

post #7 of 8

Hands up during short turns

I think more skiers then not have lazy arm/pole positions. I have been working on mine for a good 6 to 7 years and have finally had a break through. A lot of SL. training has helped me keep my hands chest high. This is still an unfinished project, but another thing is helping me is training to pass my Level III PSIA. Which has caused me to refocus my hand placement out in front of my body to keep me in a more natural stance and alignment. There are many exercises that can help, but one of the most used is the holding of the poles out in front of you chest high with the tips up and a shoulders width apart. Use the space between the poles to picture frame your body somewhere between 0º facing straight down and 45º facing at that angle to the bottom.
Arms any lower then your belly button and your lazy and out of the box, and any more then behind your body centerline and you have created a bad alignment situation by hip, body or torso being over rotated or counter rotated too much.
Good luck and it is not an easy habit to fix.
post #8 of 8
You can make that pole exercise even more intense by crossing the poles, picking a downhill target to keep within the top of the X and lightly tapping the poles together as a timer for short turns: tap....tap....tap=turn....turn....turn.
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