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post #31 of 46
<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by dirtsqueezer:

Wow that's a double edged sword you're swinging! WRT to FE - May I assume that you aren't registered or planning to register as the FE is generally required in order to pursue a PE. FWIW there's also plenty of people who believe if you don't hold a PE, you aren't an engineer....

i was more or less kidding. i already passed the FE. stressed out about it my whole first semester senior year, spent 0 time preparing for it (you cant really), spent the 8 hours of hell taking it, and passed it. so i hold my little "engineering intern" card from the state.

correct me if im wrong, but isnt a PE only really necessary if youre going to be a Civil or work on government products (ie for Boeing or Raytheon etc)?

maybe liscensed PE's have a right to look down their nose. but as far as getting one, its a few more tests that a competent engineer shouldnt have any huge difficutly passing.

but i didnt spend four years in a hard program at a good school to have my resume be put in the same pile with someone who took 2 years of drafting classes.
post #32 of 46
Thread Starter 
Just ribbing you [img]tongue.gif[/img] I know all those Mech E's and Sparkies never sweated it. (Bastahds!!)
All the Civils I know are registered. In my current company all of our engineers are registered regardless of discipline, but we do big commercial work. FWIW only PE’s use the title Engineer in my division. But it varies within the company. Like I said earlier, good topic for heated debate as you are talking about people’s bread and butter, investment in education, and ego. Right now the Civil’s are debating that a Master’s should be the first degree in that field. You can imagine what a can of worms that is.
post #33 of 46
Computer Science/Mathematics double major graduated in 1998.

Currently working in IT as a systems test engineer.
post #34 of 46
I have had job titles like system engineer, software engineer, senior technical engineer and a few other combos with engineer in the mix but I have never considered myself an engineer. Software development still is far from having the exacting standards that engineering does. In fact, in many states such titles are technically illegal since all engineers must be certified by the state.
post #35 of 46
<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Herman:

Not only do they count, they also compute.

LOL !! The problem is that once we run out of fingers and toes, we're stuck order-of-magnitude'ing everything else.

Tom / PM
post #36 of 46
Thread Starter 
Of course we all know what kind of student selects an engineering major?

Those good in math, but lacking the social skills for accounting......
post #37 of 46
Engineering is an exact science

How space shuttles got that way or why engineering is an exact science:

The US standard railroad gauge (distance between the rails)is 4 feet, 8.5 inches. That's an exceedingly odd number. Why was that gauge used? Because that's the way they built them in England, and the US railroads were built by English expatriates. Why did the English build them like that? Because the first rail lines were built by the same people who built the pre-railroad tramways, and that's the gauge they used. Why did "they" use that gauge then? Because the people who built the tramways used the same jigs and tools that they used for building wagons, which used that wheel spacing.

Okay! Why did the wagons have that particular odd wheel spacing? Well, if they tried to use any other spacing, the wagon wheels would break on some of the old, long distance roads in England, because that's the spacing of the wheel ruts. So who built those old rutted roads?

The first long distance roads in Europe (and England) were built by Imperial Rome for their legions. The roads have been used ever since.

And the ruts in the roads? The initial ruts, which everyone else had to match for fear of destroying their wagon wheels, were first formed by Roman war chariots. Since the chariots were made for (or by) Imperial Rome, they were all alike in the matter of wheel spacing.

The United States standard railroad gauge of 4 feet, 8.5 inches derives from the original specification for an Imperial Roman war chariot.

Specifications and bureaucracies live forever. So the next time you are handed a specification and wonder what horse's ass came up with it, you may be exactly right, because the Imperial Roman war chariots were made just wide enough to accommodate the back ends of two war horses. Thus, we have the answer to the original question. Now the twist to the story ...

There's an interesting extension to the story about railroad gauges and horse's behinds. When we see a Space Shuttle sitting on its launch pad, there are two big booster rockets attached to the sides of the main fuel tank. These are solid rocket boosters, or SRBs. The SRBs are made by Thiokol at their factory in Utah. The engineers who designed the SRBs might have preferred to make them a bit fatter, but the SRBs had to be shipped by train from the factory to the launch site.

The railroad line from the factory had to run through a tunnel in the mountains. The SRBs had to fit through that tunnel. The tunnel is slightly wider than the railroad track, and the railroad track is about as wide as two horses' behinds. So, the major design feature of what is arguably the world's most advanced transportation system was determined over two thousand years ago by the width of a Horse's Ass!
post #38 of 46

Great post.......!!

Do you want it:

GOOD, FAST or CHEAP....... ? Pick two!
post #39 of 46
Metallurgical injinearing and Chemical injinearing from Michigan Tech University 78
post #40 of 46
Started in ME at MSU in Bozeman, but Bridger Bowl was too close (hard to study on a powder day). Ended up with a degree in Construction Egineering. Have not taken F.E. or CPC exams yet...
post #41 of 46
Civil Engineer that started skiing 37 years ago. Engineering has taken me from Construction to the Oil Field to Environmental Engineering. Lived and worked in the U.S., the Middle East, and Europe. It's been a great career and I got to teach my kids to ski in Austria and West Germany. That was all was for not - as they are both boarders and have not been on sticks in years.

Their loss - not mine, only last year was the boy able to blow the doors off the old man!

Mrs. Engineer and I still love to ski and apres ski.

Oh, and I have attorney friends that at posers when it comes to skiing!
post #42 of 46
I agree with you Rio, I have engineer in my job title but am not an engineeer by any means, I fancy myself more of a craftsman than an engineer.
post #43 of 46
I don't know Widespread, there's nothing scarier than an electrical engineer wiring his own house. :
post #44 of 46
I don't know...please explain.
I attended for 4 years
the university of Milan (Politecnico)
Aeronautic Engineering (I dropped out).
I worked for 11 yrs as a Customer Engineer
(HW) in the mainframes area, I switched
now to the Operating System (of mainframes) area...
Do I qualify?
From my point of view, no.

post #45 of 46
Do curtainwall drafters/designers count? Anyone looking for a fast, hard working drafter out west?
post #46 of 46
This reminds me of the three engineers who's car wouldn't start.
The mechanical engineer checked the valves and the compression then gave up.
The electrical engineer checked the battery and the starter and couldn't get it going.

The computor engineer said "let's all get out and get back in again".
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