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post #1 of 10
Thread Starter 
Hi there -

I am in the market for a new set of skis and need some help/advice on sizing. My current skis are Dynastar SkiCross 9's from around 1999/2000 (the yellow/orange ones with the black splash graphics). I don't recall the exact dimensions of the skis since they have changed over time, but I think they are around 104/66/95. They are 178cm in length.

The skis I am considering are the '07 Dynastar Legend 8000. They are much fatter -- 116/79/102. The available sizes are 165, 172, and 178. I already wrote off the 178's as being too long. Now I am stuck between the 165 and 172. Ego tells me the 165 will be too short, but will it?

More info about me -- I'm 38yo, 5'7", 150lbs, and in great shape. I have been skiing for 30 years and consider myself an advanced/expert skier -- I can get down anything (including chutes) and typically ski around 70% on black diamond trails and the other time in the trees.

The reason I chose the Legend 8000's is that they are known as a great "do it all" ski. I don't ski often enough to warrant multiple pairs for different conditions. I ski crud, powder, bumps, groomers...just about everything.

Any opinions or advice about these particular skis would be appreciated. And if you have any other suggestions for a similar all-mountain ski, that would be great too.

Thx...Doug
post #2 of 10
Why have you eliminated the 178s? I think they would be best for your skill level and intended use. I would say the 165 should not be considered and the 172 would be ok with the 178 being the best choice for Western skiing.
Another good all round ski would be Fischer AMC 76 or 79 in a 170 or 176. There are some very good deals on these online.
post #3 of 10
Like Eric, I would think the 178 considering your described background and experience. Much too often I've found aggressive all mountain single quiver folks lamenting short sizing after the fact.

What I won’t do is offer up alternative skis for consideration here. While the Legend is a good one, take the time and search on some outstanding ski reviews in the 'member gear review' forum. After which you’ll find ski deals all over...including some great shops represented on Epic. Good skiing.
post #4 of 10
Thread Starter 
Huh - you guys think the 178 would be the correct ski? My current skis are 178's and they are much narrower. I'm not that heavy or tall, so I figured I should go shorter on the fatter planks, especially for use in the bumps. I'm a little nervous about getting that much ski around...

Thx...Doug
post #5 of 10
I am also 150lb and have skied the Legend 8000. Great skis. Agree that 165 is definitely too short.

For Eastern skiing (trees, bumps, narrower trails) the 172 would be my preferred length, but out West I would definitely consider 178, unless you like to ski in tight places.

Since you asked, in this category I also like the Head Monster iM82. Very stable and great edgehold on hardpack (better than the Legend) but it's a little less lively than the Legend 8000 and perhaps not as quick in the bumps.

I know ski width is a very personal thing, but I would at least consider trying out a wider ski for the West. Since you ski bumps and are light, maybe 85-90mm width? Dynastar Mythic Rider and Head Monster iM88 have been favorably reviewed here, for instance.
post #6 of 10
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Originally Posted by dgangi View Post
Huh - you guys think the 178 would be the correct ski? My current skis are 178's and they are much narrower. I'm not that heavy or tall, so I figured I should go shorter on the fatter planks, especially for use in the bumps. I'm a little nervous about getting that much ski around...

Thx...Doug
You won't get the benift of the width in power or crud in a shorter length. The longer length will also be more stable on the groomers and I doubt it will make to much difference in the bumps. I think you'll be sorry if you go to short.
Try to demo if you can.
post #7 of 10
I just started skiing on the 8000 in 166cm. I'm 5'6" and 175+lbs. Definitely not strong and not in good shape. Some here suggested I should go longer to the 172cm. But, only the shorter skis were available when the deal was found.

I already had them out two days but they were mostly on hardpacked groomers (moderately steep) with a bit of crud/powder on the side. I have been turning most mid to small radius on them (with quite a bit of skidding but that's another story) and they seem to be pretty stable at the speed I'm on.

With that said, the jury is still out on whether I got the right length. A part of me is wondering I went too short. All I know is that so far it's been at least adequate and I really like the way they behave. It certainly is a upgrade from my old 160cm B1 which tends to be very unstable on steeps at higher speed and couldn't hold an edge on ice for crap.
post #8 of 10
Thread Starter 

My skiing ability

I did a little more homework last night, as using the "1-10" scale that I found on a few websites (where 1=newbie and 10=pro), I would classify myself as a solid 8 (advanced -- enjoys blacks and off-piste challenges). Does this change any of your recommendations?

Now you all have me leaning to the 172...but I am still worried the 178 will be too long.

Thx...Doug
post #9 of 10
Doug,

I really think you should get the 178. I am comparable in terms of level as you describe yourself but am taller and heavier (6 foot 3...185)...I went up to the 184 b/c I wanted a bit more ski underneath me. The shape of the ski helps it initiate the turn so you'll be fine with the 178. I know it seems like a leap of faith but trust it...particularly since you're a good skiier...you'll get a handle on them quickly and also continue to grow into them.
post #10 of 10
If you're happy with a Dynastar Skicross in 178, definitely go with the same length for a 8000. They ski "short" and are not "that much ski".
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