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Definition of earning your turns

post #1 of 18
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How do you define earning your turns? Do you have some kind of criteria?

For example: does a hike from the top of a chair lift (ex: hiking to Catherine's area @ Alta) count, or is it too short of a hike?

There are other ways to look at it, but I want to hear what others have to say.
post #2 of 18

Earning turns in Tahoe

around Tahoe, lots of hardcore backcountry skiers have set the definition toward hiking a mountain and skiing it.

Personally, I get some satisfaction, not to mention solitude and an aerobic buzz, by hiking 10 minutes or so above the lift for a run off the top. around here I would never call that earning my turns though.
post #3 of 18
I'd say any amount of downhill skiing that is offset by an equal amount of uphill hiking, speaking in terms of vertical feet for instance.
post #4 of 18
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I'd say any amount of downhill skiing that is offset by an equal amount of uphill hiking, speaking in terms of vertical feet for instance.
Ditto! If some rich dweeb can afford $700 for a day of heliskiing... you could argue that he indeed did "earn his turns" by working in some awful corporate job.:
post #5 of 18
I earn my turns by teaching 5 year old kids from Texas or Florida by the plane load.
post #6 of 18
Close to 219's def, but it can be a lot more work and time going up than coming down. Need an adjustment for that, otherwise it's goodbye to chairlifts.
post #7 of 18
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Originally Posted by davluri View Post
around Tahoe, lots of hardcore backcountry skiers have set the definition toward hiking a mountain and skiing it.

Personally, I get some satisfaction, not to mention solitude and an aerobic buzz, by hiking 10 minutes or so above the lift for a run off the top. around here I would never call that earning my turns though.
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I'd say any amount of downhill skiing that is offset by an equal amount of uphill hiking, speaking in terms of vertical feet for instance.
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Ditto! If some rich dweeb can afford $700 for a day of heliskiing... you could argue that he indeed did "earn his turns" by working in some awful corporate job.:
Using the same criteria, I think you could argue that anybody who arrives at a liftline at 7:30am on a big powder morning has earned their untracked turns.

Standing in a cold lift line for an hour and a half almost seems like more work to me than the skinning I did yesterday.
post #8 of 18
eblackwelder: How do you define earning your turns? Do you have some kind of criteria?

If I can afford the lift ticket (or any other means available) I have earned my turns.
post #9 of 18
I define earned turns as any hike that the majority of skiers would think you were crazy for doing. That sounds like a strict definition, but start asking the 99%'ers who ski ten days a year. Most won't hike more than 10 minutes, nor up anything approaching "steep."

I hiked to the top of a closed resort this weekend. Not a huge deal, just about 45 minutes or so to the top. I couldn't call it backcountry, or every out of bounds, since I came down a marked run. But it was waist-deep powder, and it was just me and the guy who hiked up with me. One of the best runs I've had in years, and without a doubt those turns were earned.
post #10 of 18
I define it as hiking (not always climbing) to the hill, which I do on a weekly basis during Nordic-Alpine days (XC w/alpine equipt.).
post #11 of 18
LordHedgie: I define earned turns as any hike that the majority of skiers would think you were crazy for doing.

I don't think it is crazy at all. In fact, I take my hat off to anyone who can do this. Most people could not hike a mountain if their lives depended on it.
post #12 of 18
if you hike for 15+mins, thats a decent effort, 30+ is earning in my opinion (of course this depends on your fitness, i am referring to people who do a fair bit of skiing/hiking) OR if you hike/climb somewhere thats exposed or dangerous, that counts (unless you are endangering other people, in which case, you are an idiot)
naturally touring qualifies as that is normally a full day or days of skinning for a few awesome runs
post #13 of 18
Motto of the Eastern Nevada Rock Skiers' Association -

"Lifts are for sissies."





I'm with Bob. I'd rather skin uphill an hour and a half for a paradise of untracked than stand in line for the same amount of time. Or any amount of time, for that matter.

Catherine's Area and the rest of the uber-fun stuff off of Supreme are a *great* time, but I don't think that counts for "earning your turns" in the sense most people seem to use the phrase.
post #14 of 18
Working overtime to pay for a $100 lift ticket.
post #15 of 18
Unfourtunatly getting up early and waiting in line gets you little anymore. The first lifts are for sale. Also hiking up a closed resort is backcountry skiing and should be treated as such even if its a marked run. I think that any turn that you hiked or climbed for is "earned". Hiking for 15 min earns less turns than hiking for 90 min. Hopefully earned turns are of a sufficently better quality to compensated for the dramaticaly decreased vertical as opposed to lift or mechanicaly assisited skiing.
post #16 of 18
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Unfourtunatly getting up early and waiting in line gets you little anymore. The first lifts are for sale. Also hiking up a closed resort is backcountry skiing and should be treated as such even if its a marked run. I think that any turn that you hiked or climbed for is "earned". Hiking for 15 min earns less turns than hiking for 90 min. Hopefully earned turns are of a sufficently better quality to compensated for the dramaticaly decreased vertical as opposed to lift or mechanicaly assisited skiing.
At snowbird you can have you cake and eat it too.

45min hike from the tram can yield you 5000 vertical feet of untracked powder or corn when the Twin Peaks are open. Ski down to the road hitch hike back to the resort.

or if coverage is good 6500 vertical feet in to american fork canyon but this requires planning ahead.
post #17 of 18
We have open gates a Jackson. The backcountry, or slackcountry in this case, is not for everyone.
post #18 of 18
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Unfourtunatly getting up early and waiting in line gets you little anymore. The first lifts are for sale. Also hiking up a closed resort is backcountry skiing and should be treated as such even if its a marked run. I think that any turn that you hiked or climbed for is "earned". Hiking for 15 min earns less turns than hiking for 90 min. Hopefully earned turns are of a sufficently better quality to compensated for the dramaticaly decreased vertical as opposed to lift or mechanicaly assisited skiing.
Couldn't have said it better myself.... Rock on!
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