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grinding rails: fad or future

post #1 of 26
Thread Starter 
All the grinding going on these days has got me thinking; is it a passing fad (ala the spread eagle), or a new twist which will be around for a while (such as telmarking)?
post #2 of 26
I think park is a format that is going to be around for awhile. It appeals to the younger crowd, and draws in some of the skateboard/BMX group that skiing lost to snowboarding for a lot of years. Rail slides are just part of that scene.

From a mountain standpoint, it's often a saving grace for eastern/midwestern with low vertical. Parks make otherwise tame hills more interesting to those seeking an adrenaline rush.

To my race-based mind, grinding and related activities destroy skis and cause a lot of injuries. However, as long as they're skiing I'm happy. Gotta admit I envy the agility of the ones who can do it well.
post #3 of 26
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Originally posted by beezo:
a new twist which will be around for a while (such as telmarking)?
hahahahahaha. you must only grind rails to say something like that.
post #4 of 26
ummmmmm yeah, telemarking isn't exactly a new twist on skiing people in norway have been doing it for centuries, but as long as there's PSIA sactioning for rail riding its going to be here for a while baby because we all know that if you can make money off of it then its a keeper. I can just see the instructional thread now "when does the rail slide begin?" or how about "where do I put my COM while executing a switch 270 s-e-x change with a mute grab at the end"
post #5 of 26
Darwinism at work.
post #6 of 26
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Originally posted by beezo:
All the grinding going on these days has got me thinking; is it a passing fad (ala the spread eagle), or a new twist which will be around for a while (such as telmarking)?
I don't know about you but I hate when those pesky people call me right at dinner time!
post #7 of 26
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Originally posted by Alaska Mike:
From a mountain standpoint, it's often a saving grace...
I'd apply that to skiing in general. At many mountains (I didn't say all, racer crowd), freeskiing and the terrain park are what is keeping the next generation into skiing versus alternate versions of snow sliding. We need them to keep money in sking, so we can have XXX's and Explosives for years to come. Just think of it...if it wasn't for these "new-schoolers" many of the tools we love might not exist or be as accessible to the general public. Can you image...a world without Pocket Rockets?!

P.S. I slide rails...but only on a pair of trashed park skis.
post #8 of 26
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Originally posted by Pesky Resinballer:
[QB]ummmmmm yeah, telemarking isn't exactly a new twist on skiing people in norway have been doing it for centuries, but as long as there's PSIA sactioning for rail riding its going to be here for a while [QB]
Well, telemarking had to be a new twist at some time, and if it was centuries ago, it wasn't PSIA sanctioned. Even without the sanctioning it's here to stay.
post #9 of 26
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Originally posted by Lucky:
Darwinism at work.
Yeppers,

At our little midwestern hill (Crystal Mountain / Thompsonville Mi) we more than doubled the amount of concussions and patients shipped out on backboards. 98% of those cases came from the Trauma Park, errr, I mean the Terrain Park. It's keeping the ski patrol well employed. I sure wish that more of the kids using the jumps/rails would wear helmets. Unfortunately, we can't even get everyone on the ski patrol to wear helmets to set the example, so little hope of management making them mandatory (For jumps and rails -- I advocate helmets and wear one myself, but am not advocating mandatory helmets for those doing recreational skiing/boarding, only those using the jumps and rails).
post #10 of 26
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Originally posted by dirtnsnow:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Pesky Resinballer:
[QB]ummmmmm yeah, telemarking isn't exactly a new twist on skiing people in norway have been doing it for centuries, but as long as there's PSIA sactioning for rail riding its going to be here for a while [QB]
Well, telemarking had to be a new twist at some time, and if it was centuries ago, it wasn't PSIA sanctioned. Even without the sanctioning it's here to stay.</font>[/quote]Actually, alpine skiing is a new twist on telemarking...
post #11 of 26
I feel too old to try that king of thing (rails, that is), althought I was tempted, this winter.
What kept me from doing it was that I had my "good" skis on...
post #12 of 26
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Originally posted by Roto:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by dirtnsnow:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Pesky Resinballer:
[QB]ummmmmm yeah, telemarking isn't exactly a new twist on skiing people in norway have been doing it for centuries, but as long as there's PSIA sactioning for rail riding its going to be here for a while [QB]
Well, telemarking had to be a new twist at some time, and if it was centuries ago, it wasn't PSIA sanctioned. Even without the sanctioning it's here to stay.</font>[/quote]Actually, alpine skiing is a new twist on telemarking...</font>[/quote]Hmmm. Who'd of thunk it?
post #13 of 26
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Originally posted by beezo:
All the grinding going on these days has got me thinking;
yeah me too, be there in a moment, honey! [img]tongue.gif[/img]
post #14 of 26
women and their one-track minds...
post #15 of 26
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Originally posted by teledave:
I don't know about you but I hate when those pesky people call me right at dinner time!
or when pesky's working on rolling his resin... what an economical guy, a recycler, a preserver of nature!

[img]graemlins/evilgrin.gif[/img]
post #16 of 26
Besides helmets those rail grinders might want to think about protection in another area...or maybe not. [img]graemlins/evilgrin.gif[/img]
post #17 of 26
Lucky, it's all to do with Darwin Awards.

S
post #18 of 26
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally posted by Wear the fox hat:
Lucky, it's all to do with Darwin Awards.

S
Exactly. The 168cm "carver" will soon go the way of the Olin Mark IV Comp.
post #19 of 26
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Originally posted by beezo:
Exactly. The 168cm "carver" will soon go the way of the Olin Mark IV Comp.
Don't be dissin' on the Mark IV Comp now, ah, those adolscent memories of those first skis. When they were mine, slim and straight with no curves, the object of a young mans fantasies. Virginal, never having been ridden before. What smooth skin and a slick bottom, I never even noticed the funny nose, just the radiant orange glow every time I mounted on them. [img]graemlins/evilgrin.gif[/img]
post #20 of 26
Not only has newschool skiing increased the money that flows into ski resorts, R&D, etc, but it has also drawn quite a few aggressive inline skaters to the mountains. Personally, I am a skier-cum-snowboarder-turned-telemarker and it's been due to the innovations in skis (in fact, my current setup is one of the first twins [Line Dragons] with Skyhoy bindings).

I enjoy hitting the park on my way down the mountain, rails and all and find it a great way to compliment my summer skating (or does my summer skating compliment my skiing?). Frankly, the newschool movement is just the next evolution in freeriding and freestyle skiing (any naysayers should watch the BC segments in many of the newschool vids).
post #21 of 26
Quote:
Originally posted by beezo:
All the grinding going on these days has got me thinking; is it a passing fad (ala the spread eagle), or a new twist which will be around for a while (such as telmarking)?
Naw, it will got the way of skateboarding. Remember skateboarding? It was really cool thing to do back in '76, but now it has almost completely faded.......oh, wait, no, that was roller disco I was thinking about, not skateboarding...d'oh.

I think as long as there are inline skates and skateboarding, there will always be rails to slide. Unless the areas get uptight like they did in the 80's and shut down the parks and all but the groomed runs for fear of lawsuits. I think it is good for the sport. The kids in the park today will take the skills to the mountain and it's a lot of fun as an old-schooler to hit the jumps from time to time.

[ June 03, 2003, 08:45 PM: Message edited by: Bullet ]
post #22 of 26
Old school, new school, why does everyone beleive
there is anything new out there, the only thing new
are the indiviual tricks that are being performed.
post #23 of 26
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Originally posted by pyramid:
Old school, new school, why does everyone beleive
there is anything new out there, the only thing new
are the indiviual tricks that are being performed.
They're just subjective terms of reference. While Mosely sure as hell didn't "start" the NS movement, he sure put it out there for the world to see and brought to light a new style of freeriding and freestyle skiing that differed markedly from the daffys, twisters, and spread eagles of yesterday. Simply put, the term only serves to differenciate between today's urban, skating/snowboarding inspired style from yesterdays. I'm sure in 20 or so years, I'm going to be old school
post #24 of 26
I suspect that grinding will be increasingly integrated with the halfpipe and other "new school" venues. In the end I think that the halfpipe, rails, tabletops, jumps and perhaps everything else will be melded into one single run. My vision is that it would look something like a super pipe leading to a couple of big air jumps, followed by a super wide half pipe with rails and tables and small jumps in the center, followed by either more big air jumps or superpipe, and so on. I suspect that each of these events will soon reach a plateau but by combining them the challenge will increase as will viewer appeal.

But then again maybe not.

Mark
post #25 of 26
Just link two pipes together by placing a slopestyle run between them.

The whole newschool movement isn't just freestyle and freeriding though. Skiercross has done to racing what slopestyle and the pipe have done to freestyle.
post #26 of 26
A commercial idea .
Who wants to be my partner in a BASE REPAIR CENTER close to the parks !! [img]graemlins/evilgrin.gif[/img]
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